PRIME example of how to book the PINNACLE way!

[SportSavant]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Pinny is a great shop,but if I had my own biz,I would want a square clientelle who would lay 200 and take 170. good for the player,no. But would be great for me! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Judge,,,

would you rather have 100 customers lay -200 & another hundred Bet + 170?

OR

have 100000 customers lay -190 & 100000 customers get +180?

The math is simple... it is all about volume, pinny has the market cornered... which is good for the players....

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
appolo - The Frog strikes me as the bridge jumping type when it comes to betting horses, I could be wrong.


wil. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wil you know me better than anyone here. I am a serious bridge jumper, whatever you say wil...Best Wishes...OF

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Apollo, I appreciate your sense of humor. And luckily wil was there to pile on. What a coincidence. I have never, in my 25+ years of betting horses loaded up on a chalks show pool. Never, not once. I even bristle at 3/2 to win. But I hit the prop, hit the horse, so cigar, jacuzzi and rubdown. Best Wishes...OF

I prefer laying small to win big. I hate juice, unlike my pal wil, who has no prob laying that chalk. Flyers...were, -1.75, I might be wrong, some special wil super play...Best Wishes...OF

 

[wilheim]

Frog, nice edit btw. and (what else is new) past post of the 5th at Delmar. Same shit different day with the Frogster. You should try bridge jumping it suits you.


wil.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Another false accusation by a moderator. Wil, are you so ignorant you can't figure out post time on a race. You are truly the RX jester. I have time stamped bets at 3:24. 8 minutes before post. At 4 different books. Are moderators in this forum supposed to throw false accusations out at forum members? Is that funny here? Wil, your attacks never cease to amaze me. Anyone want to help wil out on this latest false accusation? Best Wishes...OF

 

[wilheim]

Nice try, but sorry.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>posted September 01, 2004 06:07 PM

General, too many clicks back and forth. I am capping horses, watching screen and other multi-tasking demands. I may adjust sooner than later. But for now, I am in this thread...might want to take a flier on Iron Flight in Del Mar 5th. Morning odds 3-1. This horse is approx $10,000 better horse than rest of field. Bounces back from Turf, very nice second against better horses, back to dirt. Last time it did that beat better horses. On a real fast close. Lot of entrants here faded last few races, while this filly flew home. My target is 5/2, win, and I will monitor place pools. Best Wishes...OF

I will take it under consideration General Sir.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: OMNIVOROUS FROG, September 01, 2004 06:18 PM <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

5th race - Del Mar - September 01, 2004

Off at: 4:06 Race Type: Claiming
Age Restriction: Three Year Old
Sex Restriction: Fillies
Value of Race: $48,640
Distance: Six And One Half Furlongs
Surface Type: Dirt Track Condition: Fast
Winning Time: 1:17.48
Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
6 Iron Flight Victor Espinoza 5.00 3.40 2.80
2 Conceal the Deal Corey S. Nakatani 7.40 5.60
3 Diamondsrbueno Kent J. Desormeaux 5.60
Also ran: 1A - Cottonuous Peaks , 7 - Stormy Senorita , 1 - Highly Arrogant , 9 - Little Foxy Baby , 5 - Nandu , 4 - Yogi's
Scratched horses: Normandy Princess


That is called past post - even without the edit, the race was gone before your post. I know you like to come back and edit posts just like you did in the post to apollo about bridge jumpers. Frog you are the worst kind of poster - a stone liar.

wil.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

You are digging deeper and deeper. now I am a stone cold liar. Is there a possibility you are wrong, and it is not a past post. Forgetting 3 hour time difference? Wil, you are a moderator, you owe me an apology...OFWager details for ticket number 15830565-1:

Wager Type: Horse Race
Wager Status: Win
Risk / To Win Amount: 300.00 / (USD) Accepted 9/1/2004 6:56 PM
Amount Paid: 750.00

Outcome: Win paying 5 for 2
Desc: 9/1/2004 Del Mar Race #5
6 Iron Flight to Win

 

[kidslick]

OF......HOPE THE NEW TAGLINE BRINGS YOU GOOD LUCK

BEST WISHES AND HEALTH KIDSLICK

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

It did right away, great tagline and busted wil with a real defamation of character and slander. All posted on the forum he is supposed to represent. Oops, those time differences are tricky. Let's see, stone liar, past poster, why don't you jump off a bridge. General, your moderators adhere to your respect guidelines? Best Wishes...OF

 

[wilheim]

Frog you are a past poster and you know it. What is "might want to take a flier on Iron Flight in Del Mar 5th. Morning odds 3-1".

Then to come back in later and say I told you so. That is your typical bullshit maybe this or that play. Like I have told you dozens or times if you want to predict something then do it, but don't insult everyones intellgience with might want to do this or that. I stand by my statement, you are a stone liar and past poster. Proove me wrong with a legitmate post, no maybes or mights etc. Let me show you.

Race 5 Del mar - I am BETTING Iron Eagle to win for sure. There is 30 minutes (or so) left until the race is run. Easy right?

wil.

 

[ATX]

ya dont move on degenerate action or at least not nearly so much as on <proven winners> like Kodiak. if I get a 40%er on a game, I may move opposite to get more of them on it.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
Frog you are a past poster and you know it. What is "might want to take a flier on Iron Flight in Del Mar 5th. Morning odds 3-1".

Then to come back in later and say I told you so. That is your typical bullshit maybe this or that play. Like I have told you dozens or times if you want to predict something then do it, but don't insult everyones intellgience with might want to do this or that. I stand by my statement, you are a stone liar and past poster. Proove me wrong with a legitmate post, no maybes or mights etc. Let me show you.

Race 5 Del mar - I am BETTING Iron Eagle to win for sure. There is 30 minutes (or so) left until the race is run. Easy right?

wil. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You owe me an apology. You have falsely accused me of past posting, and called me a stone liar. You are a moderator representing the Prescription. All the evidence and the General is there, in front of everyone's eyes. Apology wil...OF

 

[SportSavant]

I dont know about past posting, but it would be nice if plays were posted hounourably, without jargon, in the approproate forum... otherwise what is the use?

 

[SportSavant]

it is very simple...

OF, did you or did you not post that statement insuniating a play on a horse race that was already over (regardless of wether you bet it or not... I have dozens of winners I could post on threads all days... doesnt mean there were not any losers to go along with them?)

If you say the race was not yet run when you poseted the quote that WIL posted than I take you at your word.

 

[SportSavant]

time difference? this thread posts all posts in EST for me...

what time was the post EST?

what time did the race go off EST?

 

[Mr.Leisure]

I don`t like to get involved in any controversy but I know he didn`t past post. I made a small place bet at pinnacle after I read his post.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Savant, the edit was a full 47 minutes before post. Everyone here knows wil screwed up. The race time post was 7:05 in the East, 4:05 in the West. I was even posting with the General at the time. These are serious allegations, especially by a forum representative. I will have SHRINK or owners of The Prescription post a written retraction, otherwise they condone wil's statements. I will also write letter's, E-mails to all of my sportbooks, all of the RX advertisers. Explaining my position, and the false but at the same time serious accusations. Four of them have time date stamps on my plays, at least 10 minutes before post. Do I want all of the people I do busines with daily thinking I am a lying cheat, attempting to steal from them, past posting. This is from a business representative. I want this matter settled immediately...Unacceptable...OF

 

[wilheim]

Sorry, I was offline with an internet connection problem. To set the record straight I am simply calling out OF for continously manipulating his posts, the 5th at Del Mar is a perfect example of a quasi pick. To any of you posters who want to follow him I wish you the best of luck. To Frog himself I do offer an apology for calling you a liar, I was out of line for doing so. I do however challange you to clean up any future predictions made on this forum, let them be clear, and easy for everyone to understand, no mights or maybes, no unbetable lines from mystery books. You accused me of never posting plays but when I do and win I am (according to you) "lucky". I don't make repeated references to winning or losing picks once they are over with.. Anytime you want to go head to head in any sport please let me know, football, baseball, horses, boxing (my favorite) you name it.

Again I do apologise for the liar remark, it was wrong for me personally to use it, as a moderator, and a person in general. I hope you will accpept the apology.

Thanks, wilheim

 

[SportSavant]

it seems the 'EDIT' was clearly prior to the race...

HOWEVER,

wil does bring up some good points... too much Jargon....

remember OF, I was 150% sure you would be on spain with + 7 & then you post after the game is over that you passed... your statents leading up to the game made it sound like a play... you may not have officially stated it as a play... granted... but it certainly sounded like if you could get + 6 you would be on that game... then after the game.... You didnt play it?

I enjoy your posts but do wish... AGAIN... plays were posted in forums... tracked... easy to understand... NO BS etc etc etc

It is alot easier for us to follow along the progress....

 

[TheGeneral+]

Frog dont have time to click onto the sports rooms and post his plays obviously but he has plenty of time to make long paragraph posts here offshore.