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Looks like some good news on BFHJ the last couple days, what do you think Kuwl?
 

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Looks like some good news on BFHJ the last couple days, what do you think Kuwl?


Yeah, I dont know what's going on with that one. I've bought it and sold it so many times it's hard to keep track of. Fairly disappointed in the overall trading in that stock. I've cut some losses there and have it on my radar for now. Looking for another entry point for a quick 100-200% return. Looking like .01 is that point. GL
 

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Abitibi under siege
By Giuseppe Valiante, Financial PostOctober 8, 2009 7:35 AM


AbitibiBowater Inc. , Canada's largest forest-products company, has posted a message aimed at reassuring anxious shareholders and employees as it works to emerge from bankruptcy protection: "If history is a guide, it is worth noting that one of our predecessor companies -- Abitibi -- filed for bankruptcy during the Great Depression," say Richard Evans, chairman, and David J. Paterson, president and chief executive. "The company reemerged and prospered over the many following decades."

If and how AbitibiBowater succeeds in its attempts to restructure about $6.5-billion of debt ($1.5-billion of which is secured), a process that began in earnest in mid-April, the industry in which it will operate will be far different from that of the 1940s, when a recovering post-war economy was strong and vibrant.

Today, the demand for many of the company's products such as newsprint, which represents 48% of sales, is in decline and its privileged logging rights to commercial forests are being threatened or revoked entirely. Meanwhile, environmental activists are trying to tarnish its reputation by claiming the company is not sufficiently environmentally friendly, and pressure is growing for the industry to create new uses for wood products such as biomass and biochemicals, ventures that are high-risk and require billions of dollars of investment.

Exactly what Abitibi, and Canada's forest sector in general, will look like once it emerges from the post-recession economy is open for debate. Do forest companies transform their core business from producing wood, pulp and paper to making bio-fuels and bio-chemicals, or do they integrate biofuels into their business while maintaining wood and pulp as the principal drivers?

AbitibiBowater, based in Delaware with its world headquarters in Montreal, employs about 8,300 people in Canada out of its total workforce of 12,000. Soon after Montreal's Abitibi-Consolidated Inc. and South Carolina's Bowater Inc. merged in 2007 to create North America's third-largest forest product company, the financial crisis tightened access to financing and the subsequent precipitous decline in newsprint threw AbitibiBowater into financial chaos. Company executives have not speculated as to how long it will take to get out of from under the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act in Canada and Chapter 11 in the United States.

For many, the answer to the problems plaguing Abitibi and much of the rest of the industry is a radical overhaul.

Paul Stuart, a former industry consultant and a one-time advisor to AbitibiBowater who is also a chemical engineer, is among those who say the sector must transform its core business away from wood products to bio-energy and bio-products or die.

Further consolidation in the industry as well as increased demand for wood when the U.S. housing market improves will provide insufficient returns for the industry, said Mr. Stuart, who has consulted at more than 70 Canadian and international pulp-and-paper mills on environmental and process issues, and is now the chair in engineering design at Polytechnique Montreal.

"[AbitibiBowater] is looking down the barrel of a gun," he said. "But on the table before them now is an alignment of things, an opportunity to capitalize and transform their companies and have a better business."

He added that AbitibiBowater can probably successfully make the jump into the bio-economy because its mills are concentrated in regions such as Quebec and Ontario, and it has substantial cutting rights in these regions. "There is a landscape that has been set here that is absolutely fantastic," said Mr Stuart, who recently spent his sabbatical year with Abitibi exploring biorefinery opportunities.

But for such a transformation to be a success, federal, provincial and industry leaders must also show leadership, he said. On the federal level, Ottawa needs to prepare a clear and consistent plan for the reduction of CO2 emissions so companies can adjust.

"Industry is fine with whatever the rules are, I think. So long as they know what they are and can make a business plan to meet them without ambiguity," said Mr. Stuart.

Provincial politicians, especially in Quebec, need to force the hand of the industry into remodeling. "They need tough love," said Mr. Stuart. "They should say 'We're not going to throw good money away after bad.' Change your model to become competitive."

Additionally, governments need to make the cost of business cheaper. Due to regulation, long grow times and the historical way that cutting rights are awarded, fibre costs in Quebec are among the highest in North America.

"The provinces need to recognize the value of the forestry industry, and recognize the financial dilemma of the companies and the risks associated with corporate transformation," said Mr. Stuart. "That might mean propping up the mills in order to reap the benefits from a forest industry that is sustainable into the longer term, and it might be propping up AbitibiBowater."

Avrim Lazar, president and CEO of the Forest Products Association of Canada and chairman of the Advisory Committee on Paper and Wood Products for the United Nations, agrees the future of bio-energy and bio-products is strong, but so is the future of wood, pulp and paper.

"[Paul Stuart] is right, but when people say you've got to change from this to that, they're wrong. You've got to integrate this into that," Mr. Lazar said.

He said his organization is researching the technology and the future of bio-products and "all the preliminary indications are that there is going to be a very robust bio-energy and bio-product market coming out of the forest, but it's going to be integrated into the wood, pulp and paper industry instead of replacing it.

"Wood demand is going to come back, and come back strong," he said. "Americans are still going to build their houses out of wood, pulp demand will go up and paper demand offshore will go up."

He said AbitibiBowater sells 45% of its products offshore. "Generally speaking, that's the trend for the whole forest industry. The North American and European market for paper will never return to what it was, but the paper market of the newly industrializing countries in South America and Asia will return."

"Will we see healthy pulp and paper companies that don't have bio-products? I don't think so. Will we see healthy bio-fuel companies, which use wood without pulp and paper? Equally unlikely."

Mr. Stuart and Mr. Lazar do agree that for the sector to produce anything at all, government must play a role.

"Eighty per cent of the mills are captive to single-line railways who give bad service and overcharge because they have monopoly power," said Mr. Lazar. "That's a government issue, not a railway issue."

Moreover, countries such as Canada and Russia will benefit from moves by competitors such as Brazil, which Mr. Lazar said will likely begin growing sugar cane instead of trees to meet the growing world biofuel demand. But government subsidies in Canada for green transformation must be equal or close to those of United States and Europe if the Canadian sector is to compete.

"Americans and Europeans are extremely aggressive in supporting the green transformation of their industries. If our governments don't match their governments' green subsidies, we are going to be in big trouble," Mr. Lazar said.

For AbitibiBowater, there are more pressing needs at the moment than considering the potential of bio-mass.

Aside from recently idling 1.3 million tonnes of capacity, cancelling employee bonuses for 2008 and 2009, as well as reducing corporate overhead by 25%, AbitibiBowater has to deal with billions in debt, renegotiate labour agreements with its employees, 77% of whom are unionized, and address a pension deficit for Canadian employees that stood at $1.3-billion before markets picked up a couple of months ago.

AbitibiBowater is "certainly considering those possibilities as we look to the future," said Seth Kursman, the company's vice-president, public affairs, sustainability and environment, referring to the move toward bio-fuels and bio-products. "We are looking to extract value throughout all aspects of our process going forward."

And while Mr. Kursman won't divulge details, he hinted that the company will most likely not be abandoning its traditional products.

"We have accomplished a lot," Mr. Kursman said. "We had to make some tough decisions, we have a great deal more that needs to be done before we emerge. But when we emerge ... we believe we can be leaner, and a much stronger company in the future."

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$65.7B

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$405M

Total revenues generated by the forest-products industry

Number of mills that were closed between 2003 and 2008

Research and development expenditures from the wood and paper sectors

© Copyright (c) National Post
 

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Mill town struggles to survive
Giuseppe Valiante, Financial Post Published: Thursday, October 08, 2009


"Bang, bang, bang, bang," said Georges Simard, mayor of Dolbeau-Mistassini, describing the sound of falling dominos -- the effect he says would occur in the town of 15,000, about 500 kilometres north of Montreal, if AbitbiBowater went bankrupt.

About 400 people work in the town's two mills, and if estimates are correct that suggest every direct forest job creates about four indirect jobs, then 1,600 townsfolk will feel the fallout, said Mr. Simard. That includes local contractors who have paid for their tree-cutting machines and transport trucks in installments could be out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

"The company doesn't just owe international investors. They owe a lot of money to local people," said Mr. Simard.

Since the town doesn't have any large urban centre nearby, it is difficult for its population to transform its economy. "It's more a question of us moving," he said.

Mr. Simard and his town made national news last month when they symbolically shut down all city services for the day to represent what they say Dolbeau-Mistassini would look like if AbitibiBowater closed its two mills. The town also threatened to lobby the provincial government to revoke Abitibi's logging rights to about 800,000 cubic metres of wood and hand it over to the region's authorities if any plant closures occur.

The town's pulp-and-paper mill, which sits across the river from its sawmill, has been temporarily closed for three months, and because Mr. Simard said the plants are interrelated, he fears the sawmill may be next.

Seth Kursman, vice-president, public affairs, for AbitibiBowater, said the idled mills are a response to market demand.

"There is only a certain amount of demand for the product. Which mills you pick [to idle] are those that are the highest-cost and that are burning cash. Even if you were able to reopen the Dolbeau mill, you then have to say, 'OK, if that mill reopens, what machines or what mills have to close in its place? We wish demand was stronger. We're in the business of making paper, not in the business of closing mills."

Paul Stuart, chemical engineer and chair in engineering design at Polytechnique Montreal, notes that taking away Abitibi's forest rights hurts both the company and workers in the long run because the company won't be in a position to transform its core business from wood, pulp and paper products to biofuels and bio-chemicals. This product change will create more long-term jobs because it is, Mr. Stuart contends, the future of the industry.

"We will be destroying that [future] value of the company by [revoking their rights]," Mr. Stuart said.

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http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=2079558
 

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Couldnt settle on one or the other, so I added more MJNA and I started a position in CBIS today. CBIS looks very bullish short-term and it's long-term pattern trend has held. That's the main reason I added a large position at today's prices. Would like to accumulate more around .50. She's gonna run hard to $1, and potentially $1.50 thereafter for a triple from today's price. Dont buy too much at the ask, I dont want to move this one yet, need more shares, lol.
 

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The MM's are working ABWTQ to death.


Lol, no kidding, brutal aint it? Shake Shake Shake the tree. Patience, like the i-hubbers tell lunch. Bid sit and let them fill you all day at .14. These are gonna be a gift in due time. So many people accumulating at these prices its ridiculous. The float is gonna be locked up before the PR comes out about the hydro-dam sale, and the spring that's been coiled for the last 2-3 months is gonna unload a wave of profit for those of us in it early.
 

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I have 8000 shares at .14 that I am going to keep. That is great to know. Thinking about joining the party with the MM's on other shares lol.
 

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The main reason I posted that article earlier was because it specifically mentioned shareholders. Very rarely does a company go out of its way to speak of shareholders. To me, and others, this was a big deal. They've also said they have no intentions of cancelling current shareholders. Regardless, it's a risk worth taking IMO. Look at CEMJQ and it's trading pattern. The stock's PPS basically followed the Bonds increase in price shortly thereafter. One of these days, Abi's gonna get the juice she needs to go BOOM. And it's gonna be a pretty run to dollar land.
 

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IBRC -- 25k shares @ .028


Sorry, didnt have a chance to post this as I bought it right before close. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to gap up in the morning, which means most on here will miss out on the first 20% or so of this move. Good thing, you can get in once we get some early profit takers and lowly bid-whackers. Keep your eyes on this one. Pending PR due out soon, signed a few major contracts apparently.

Ahh well, dont care about the story, just about the money, lol.


Price Target: .10+

Potential for an easy 300% upon PR, maybe more. Giving this one about two weeks to perform. Otherwise, i'm out.
 

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IBRC -- 25k shares @ .028
Pending PR due out soon, signed a few major contracts apparently.


Wow, that was quick. Got the PR today, not a ton of volume coming in, yet. Should see a nice close well over .04 IMO. Still looking for .10 near-term, probably by week's end. It gapped up this morning, as expected, then consolidated a bit, now it's looking bullish and should move up after lunch. GL
 

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Really low volume on IBRC today, suprised this did not jump after the news yesterday.
 

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kuwlness, i have 9000 shares of wtar at .11, do you think i should lower my average or just wait.... and do you still have a position is this one..??
 

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Really low volume on IBRC today, suprised this did not jump after the news yesterday.


Not very happy with the action on this one either. Figured we'd be well over .10 with yesterday's PR. I'm not adding anymore, just holding.
 

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kuwlness, i have 9000 shares of wtar at .11, do you think i should lower my average or just wait.... and do you still have a position is this one..??


WTAR has been driving me nuts, so much I refuse to post on the i-hub board anymore, lol. Do what you feel comfortable with, I still think we'll have a run at .20 at some point. This isnt a stinky pinky as it's on the OTCBB, so you feel safer leaving money in this one. Grab extra shares down here to sell next time it gets over .10, nice to have trading shares. .07 - .10 is almost a 50% ROI anyway ... seems to bounce between those levels frequently.
 

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kuwlness, i also have pfgy, havnt heard anything on this one in a while.... whats up with it... still worth holding on to..??:think2:
 

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kuwlness, i also have pfgy, havnt heard anything on this one in a while.... whats up with it... still worth holding on to..??:think2:


That damn one-time write-off killed their Q. Still worth holding IMO. It'll probably triple when they put out their next Q ... then again, it might be dead money until closer to the Q. That was my bad, I took someone else's advice and recommended that one since I thought he had insider information. Unfortunately, no one knew about the one-time write-off. Fack! In my eyes, it's a hold, that's what I'm doing. Added some in the low .20s a few days ago. Take the loss as a tax write-off if you'd rather have the money in something else. I have lots of stocks and I rarely sell for a loss, but everyone's in a different situation.
 

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thanks kuwl, ill just hold on and see what happens, i have about 9 of your plays and doing really well, cpqq is moving nicely again today, going to take some profit at about $1.80....
 

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BLAP -- nope, probably not the post you've all been waiting on hahaha, but still very awesome. In case you didnt notice, an 8K was released after the bell today, just am now having a chance to relay this info to the board.

So, my understanding is we're going to get 1 share of the new Big Pants Media spin-off for every 100 shares of BLAP we have. It also sounds like a dividend is going to be paid on the new Big Pants Media shares as well. Here's what you need to know:


"Accordingly, by unanimous consent of the board of directors and by consent of the majority of the shareholders of Blast Applications, Inc. the Company has resolved to spin off its wholly owned subsidiary Big Pants Media, Inc. to the existing shareholders of Blast Applications, Inc. at a ratio of one (1) share of Big Pants common stock for every one hundred (100) shares of the Corporation's common stock currently owned by existing shareholders of the Corporation's common stock and further resolve to set the record date for the Big Pants dividend to be effective October 20, 2009 (the 'Record Date'), with the distributed dividend of Big Pants common stock payable approximately thirty (30) days from the Record Date in either book entry or certificate form, at the discretion of the board of directors."



Sweet, free money basically ... plus a dividend. Damn, now that's what I call taking care of your shareholders for being patient. I assume we pop after this news. Still waiting on more news about the Twitter app, though, hopefully more 8Ks will follow with more info. Enjoy your free money ... very niiiiice <><>
 
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BLAP -- nope, probably not the post you've all been waiting on hahaha, but still very awesome. In case you didnt notice, an 8K was released after the bell today, just am now having a chance to relay this info to the board.

So, my understanding is we're going to get 1 share of the new Big Pants Media spin-off for every 100 shares of BLAP we have. It also sounds like a dividend is going to be paid on the new Big Pants Media shares as well. Here's what you need to know:


"Accordingly, by unanimous consent of the board of directors and by consent of the majority of the shareholders of Blast Applications, Inc. the Company has resolved to spin off its wholly owned subsidiary Big Pants Media, Inc. to the existing shareholders of Blast Applications, Inc. at a ratio of one (1) share of Big Pants common stock for every one hundred (100) shares of the Corporation's common stock currently owned by existing shareholders of the Corporation's common stock and further resolve to set the record date for the Big Pants dividend to be effective October 20, 2009 (the 'Record Date'), with the distributed dividend of Big Pants common stock payable approximately thirty (30) days from the Record Date in either book entry or certificate form, at the discretion of the board of directors."



Sweet, free money basically ... plus a dividend. Damn, now that's what I call taking care of your shareholders for being patient. I assume we pop after this news. Still waiting on more news about the Twitter app, though, hopefully more 8Ks will follow with more info. Enjoy your free money ... very niiiiice <><>

Maybe I'm not the only one who didn't know what "releasing 8k at the bell"
meant...

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A document required by the SEC to announce certain significant changes in a public company, such as a merger or acquisition, a name or address change, bankruptcy, change of auditors, or any other information which a potential investor ought to know about.
 

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