Shaq was in his prime before he went to LA and played with Kobe and won 0 rings...He is older and played in the league longer so he SHOULD have more rings.
Kobe still has many more years to win his share...
I referenced Kobe three rings b/c Rob said PP is better b/c he won the finals MVP and has a ring. Not sure what your point is by saying Shaq won them and Kobe was a tagalong?
If this not your basis for thinking PP is better then why make this argument? Isn’t that what we are talking about here who is better PP or KB? Or are you just making any comment to put down the Lakers and Kobe?
Kobe still has many more years to win his share...
I referenced Kobe three rings b/c Rob said PP is better b/c he won the finals MVP and has a ring. Not sure what your point is by saying Shaq won them and Kobe was a tagalong?
If this not your basis for thinking PP is better then why make this argument? Isn’t that what we are talking about here who is better PP or KB? Or are you just making any comment to put down the Lakers and Kobe?
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So pointing out a fault in someone's reasoning makes me a hypocrite?
Just because I think Joe Montana is the best QB ever doesn't mean I could state as a fact that he's the best because he ate granola as a child.
hno:Your argument was faulty and I pointed it out. Just because we agree on the issue doesn't mean I can't point something out in your reasoning I disagree with.
So pointing out a fault in someone's reasoning makes me a hypocrite?
Just because I think Joe Montana is the best QB ever doesn't mean I could state as a fact that he's the best because he ate granola as a child.
Your argument was faulty and I pointed it out. Just because we agree on the issue doesn't mean I can't point something out in your reasoning I disagree with.
No my arguement was not close to faulty. B/C my reasoning was not an opinion in which you can argue against. I stated a fact that if you base championships and MVPS as your only measure on who is the better player then Kobe won 3 championships (1 MVP) and PP won 1 championship (1 Finals MVP)... That is fact. You can argue anything you want after that on how each won it but if that is what you are using as basis then its 3 vs. 1 and KB is the better player.
You then attempted to show fault in my factual statement by using opinion and stating Shaq won those championship and PP would have won the same amount if he played on that team. That is opinion and is not backed by anything but what you think...
And all this arguing was pointless b/c you think KB is the better player
I called you a hypocrite b/c you think 1 thing and then seem to back the other...
Shaq titles dont count my friend. He always makes guards look better than they really are... penny...wade...kobe
Totally different deal for the plain fact PP took over all those finals games and playoff games while Allen was non-existant. Then you agree that Kobe was nothing without Shaq by defacto..
When a fat man is double and triple teamed in the middle it allows for wide open shots.
Shaq makes roll players stars.. his words to udonis haslem and the rest of the heat bench when he arrived was I'm going to make you all rich. Why? Cause he makes their stars look awesome!
Yep. But Kobe production actually went up after Shaq left so does not really mean Shaq presence was causing Kobe to score all those points...
Regardless, Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now. What PP said was laughable... No real point in arguing... He is better statistically, has more rings and plays in a more competitive conference.
Kobe is obviously a great player, just ran into a better overall team in the Celtics. Pierce isn't better than Kobe, the Lakers had NOBODY to guard Pierce and it was the perfect matchup for him and he seized the moment and got the Celtics the ring.
Seymour's random mentioning of Pierce in Ricky Davis class is a little perplexing, with all due respect, did you watch basketball before this year? Pierce has always been an all star trapped on a bad team....
Also, these comments mean nothing, I'm sure most guys in the top 10-15 in the NBA think they are among the leagues best, if not the best....
Seymour's random mentioning of Pierce in Ricky Davis class is a little perplexing, with all due respect, did you watch basketball before this year? Pierce has always been an all star trapped on a bad team....
Also, these comments mean nothing, I'm sure most guys in the top 10-15 in the NBA think they are among the leagues best, if not the best....
Kobe vs Pierce ... Head 2 Head (Not including the NBA Finals massacre )
In the regular season , They have met 14 times ... with each winning 7 games. The stats are pretty even , and I'd give Pierce the slight edge.
PPG
Pierce 26.8
Kobe 26.5
Reb/ pg
Pierce 5.6
Kobe 5.0
assists/ pg
Pierce 3.6
Kobe 5.3
FG %
Pierce .454
Kobe .388
FT %
Pierce .750
Kobe .829
3pg % and # made
Pierce .446 and 37
Kobe .218 and 14
Turnovers/ steals / blocks
Pierce 4.1 / 1.7 / 0.4
Kobe 2.8 / 1.9 / 0.5
In head to head matchups over their career ,a stranger looking at both players stats against each other could easilly pick Pierce as the better player ...
In the regular season , They have met 14 times ... with each winning 7 games. The stats are pretty even , and I'd give Pierce the slight edge.
PPG
Pierce 26.8
Kobe 26.5
Reb/ pg
Pierce 5.6
Kobe 5.0
assists/ pg
Pierce 3.6
Kobe 5.3
FG %
Pierce .454
Kobe .388
FT %
Pierce .750
Kobe .829
3pg % and # made
Pierce .446 and 37
Kobe .218 and 14
Turnovers/ steals / blocks
Pierce 4.1 / 1.7 / 0.4
Kobe 2.8 / 1.9 / 0.5
In head to head matchups over their career ,a stranger looking at both players stats against each other could easilly pick Pierce as the better player ...
