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Um, yes they do.

They are actually officially categorized by the BLS as "discouraged workers" and have looked for jobs within the past 12 months.

Idiot.

There is a category that tracks people who looked for work before 4 weeks and 12 months. That cannot be known by your graph that you are using. Like I said, you wouldn't understand and you are a very dumb person.
 

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Discouraging workers are a subset that cannot be explained by simply looking at the graph you are posting. You still don't understand basic math. This is another Spending as % of GDP discussion, lol! One of the dumbest people I have met on this site. And that's an accomplishment. One would think that you have to actively try to be a retard to be the dumbest on this site.

Notice the bullshit.

I never said discouraged workers were represented on the graph, or you should see them on the graph.

I said the labor force has shrunk.

What is even funnier is the dummy who posted a chart with the # of workers, a chart not adjusted for population mind you, is talking about percentages.

Priceless.
 

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People dropping out of the workforce, for whatever reason, has nothing to do with the people who are actually looking for jobs.

The BLS disagrees with you.

Idiot.

They don't disagreement with me at all. They simply call them discouraged workers who have not looked for a job in over 4 weeks. They have no clue why they are "discouraged", it's just a terminology. The unemployment rate is a rate of people actively looking for work that can't find a job. Not that difficult to understand.
 

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There is a category that tracks people who looked for work before 4 weeks and 12 months. That cannot be known by your graph that you are using. Like I said, you wouldn't understand and you are a very dumb person.

Hey idiot: I never said they are "known" on the graph.

I clearly indicated the stupidity I was responding to.

Which of course is why you're trying to change the topic.
 

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They don't disagreement with me at all. They simply call them discouraged workers who have not looked for a job in over 4 weeks. They have no clue why they are "discouraged", it's just a terminology. The unemployment rate is a rate of people actively looking for work that can't find a job. Not that difficult to understand.

Actually, they say why they are discouraged.

It is in the definition they provide you.

Idiot.
 

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Notice the bullshit.

I never said discouraged workers were represented on the graph, or you should see them on the graph.

I said the labor force has shrunk.

What is even funnier is the dummy who posted a chart with the # of workers, a chart not adjusted for population mind you, is talking about percentages.

Priceless.

You are so dumb it's hilarious. You made a statement that there are less people working now than when Obama was sworn in office. I showed you a graph that proves that was wrong. Now you are criticizing me for posting that graph and now talking about percentages, lol. Never seen someone look so retarded before.
 

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They have no clue why they are "discouraged", it's just a terminology. .

Discouraged workers (Current Population Survey)
Persons not in the labor force who want and are available for a job and who have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months (or since the end of their last job if they held one within the past 12 months), but who are not currently looking because they believe there are no jobs available or there are none for which they would qualify.

http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm#D
 

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Actually, they say why they are discouraged.

It is in the definition they provide you.

Idiot.

Lmao, there only reason was that they searched for a job in the past 12 months. That's not a reason why they stopped looking for work.
 

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You are so dumb it's hilarious. You made a statement that there are less people working now than when Obama was sworn in office. I showed you a graph that proves that was wrong. Now you are criticizing me for posting that graph and now talking about percentages, lol. Never seen someone look so retarded before.

So in other words, you made 1 dumb claim: that people that have dropped out of the labor force have "nothing to do" with people looking for work, and are now doubling down on another stupid claim.

Of course.
 

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Discouraged workers (Current Population Survey)
Persons not in the labor force who want and are available for a job and who have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months (or since the end of their last job if they held one within the past 12 months), but who are not currently looking because they believe there are no jobs available or there are none for which they would qualify.

http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm#D

Ahhh, it's based off their survey. I apologize. Based on your description I thought discouraged workers were just workers who have looked for a job in the past 12 months but not in the past 4 weeks. But their definition says it's based on their survey. I was incorrect on the discouraged workers definition. Still does not change the fact that, those numbers cannot be known based on the graph you posted.
 

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They have no clue why they are "discouraged",

Um, yes they do:who are not currently looking because they believe there are no jobs available or there are none for which they would qualify.

Idiot.
 

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They have no clue why they are "discouraged",

Um, yes they do:who are not currently looking because they believe there are no jobs available or there are none for which they would qualify.

Idiot.

Yes, based on a survey. You are correct.
 

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Anyway, now that we know the clown doesn't know, well, anything about unemployment, maybe this will help:

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a first, working-age people now make up the majority in households that rely on food stamps.
That's a switch from a few years ago, when children and the elderly were the main recipients.
Some of the change is due to demographics, like the trend toward people having fewer children. But the slow economic recovery is also playing a role, with high unemployment, stagnant wages and an increasing gulf between low-wage and high-skill jobs.
Government data shows that food stamp participation has grown fastest among workers with some college training. It's a sign the safety net has stretched to cover what used to be the middle class.
The program now covers 1 in 7 Americans.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/26/new-face-of-food-stamps/4914501/

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Probably because unemployment is 'getting better'
 

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Anyway, now that we know the clown doesn't know, well, anything about unemployment, maybe this will help:

WASHINGTON (AP) — In a first, working-age people now make up the majority in households that rely on food stamps.
That's a switch from a few years ago, when children and the elderly were the main recipients.
Some of the change is due to demographics, like the trend toward people having fewer children. But the slow economic recovery is also playing a role, with high unemployment, stagnant wages and an increasing gulf between low-wage and high-skill jobs.
Government data shows that food stamp participation has grown fastest among workers with some college training. It's a sign the safety net has stretched to cover what used to be the middle class.
The program now covers 1 in 7 Americans.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/26/new-face-of-food-stamps/4914501/

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Probably because unemployment is 'getting better'

You're just copying and pasting crap you learned today from the BLS, lol. And this was the original definition you gave... which does not have any information about a survey.

Persons not in the labor force who want and are available for a job and who have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months (or since the end of their last job if they held one within the past 12 months), but who are not currently looking because they believe there are no jobs available or there are none for which they would qualify.

The fact of the matter is unemployment is lower whether you want to bring up discouraged workers or not. Data doesn't lie, only conservatives do.
 

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And this was the original definition you gave... which does not have any information about a survey.

@):mad:

all of the BLS information is done via survey.

And of course that post was followed a minute later by a post linking to BLS.
 

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The fact of the matter is unemployment is lower whether you want to bring up discouraged workers or not.

:):)

The fact of the matter is that 1.6 million people left the workforce, and you pretending something has gotten "better" is silly and absurd.

You're just copying and pasting crap you learned today from the BLS

Nice projection. You don't know anything about this topic.

And it shows.
 

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And this was the original definition you gave... which does not have any information about a survey.

@):mad:

all of the BLS information is done via survey.

And of course that post was followed a minute later by a post linking to BLS.

This is all that matters...

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