Per ESPN...FSU investigating Jameis Winston

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You do realize the lead investigator on this case acts as a private security guard for several FSU alum and big time contributors right?

I'll just say I know quite a bit about this that isn't from the media.
 

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Even if he was Tim Tebow off the field I don't like what I see from him on the field as far as translating to the NFL.

I think he is a bust and it has nothing to do with his maturity or what he does off the field.

I am talking Jamarcus Russell proportions type bust.

He will forever be on those NFL network top 10 bust shows for the next 40 years.

What particularly don't you like from what you've seen on the field? I understand the character concerns that people have. His football iq is extremely high, the ability to throw with anticipation is there. Sure there are things he needs to clean up but the on the field talent is the best in this years draft for qb's.
 

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What particularly don't you like from what you've seen on the field? I understand the character concerns that people have. His football iq is extremely high, the ability to throw with anticipation is there. Sure there are things he needs to clean up but the on the field talent is the best in this years draft for qb's.

Size, arm strength, pocket presence, accuracy, moxy, command of the huddle....and UNBEATEN..all the things that you don't want in a NFL QB. Marcus Mariota is just what NFL scouts are drooling over...LOL
 

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Size, arm strength, pocket presence, accuracy, moxy, command of the huddle....and UNBEATEN..all the things that you don't want in a NFL QB. Marcus Mariota is just what NFL scouts are drooling over...LOL

You would be an absolute fool to draft Winston over Mariota. Just idiotic.
 

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You would be an absolute fool to draft Winston over Mariota. Just idiotic.

Winston has cost himself his spot on the top of the draft board due to his off the field transgressions, but there is no question who will be more NFL ready. Mariota will not survive a full season, just like the rest of these QB's that come from gimmick offenses. Mariota has had durability issues in college, won't get any easier at the next level, will not survive a season.
 

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Lol, Winston is the best qb in college. His accuracy, pocket awareness, size, strength is by far the best. He'll do great in the NFL if he's not in jail. And who's saying Mariotta is better than him? Got to be on serious drugs to think that.
 

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Lol, Winston is the best qb in college. His accuracy, pocket awareness, size, strength is by far the best. He'll do great in the NFL if he's not in jail. And who's saying Mariotta is better than him? Got to be on serious drugs to think that.

Who said this?
 

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Lol, Winston is the best qb in college. His accuracy, pocket awareness, size, strength is by far the best. He'll do great in the NFL if he's not in jail. And who's saying Mariotta is better than him? Got to be on serious drugs to think that.

BTW, both guys are 6'4 with Winston being 227 and Mariota being 217.

Why do you think Winston is stonger? I don't know, just asking how you know Winston is stronger.
 

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Man I hate this kind of post. Tell us what you know or just remain silent.

I can tell you Jameis wasn't one of the first guys on the football team to have sex with the girl. Jameis had also being having sex with her for a while before the rape allegation. But coming from me it's hearsay on an internet message board.

I also know someone who is very well connected in the high school football scene in the area where Jameis is from. All those around him from that time speak highly of his character. A part of the problem is that his parents were/are enablers and he was never held accountable. Yet he still managed to excel in the class room. Still people are going to believe what they want.

The media is quick to jump on it because of who he is. But he's still just a college kid who does dumb things.
 

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I can tell you Jameis wasn't one of the first guys on the football team to have sex with the girl. Jameis had also being having sex with her for a while before the rape allegation. But coming from me it's hearsay on an internet message board.

I also know someone who is very well connected in the high school football scene in the area where Jameis is from. All those around him from that time speak highly of his character. A part of the problem is that his parents were/are enablers and he was never held accountable. Yet he still managed to excel in the class room. Still people are going to believe what they want.


The media is quick to jump on it because of who he is. But he's still just a college kid who does dumb things.

A) Who the accuser had sex with previous to the incident doesn't matter one bit. Not one.

B) Just stop. I know a dude in his high school scene? Just stop. He's been disciplined for theft, alleged sexual assault, getting paid for autographs and suspended for his inappropriate comments while on campus. Just stop.

C) Not all college kids do the things he's doing. He's a fucking moron.
 

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I agree with your 3rd point (C)
 

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A) Who the accuser had sex with previous to the incident doesn't matter one bit. Not one.

B) Just stop. I know a dude in his high school scene? Just stop. He's been disciplined for theft, alleged sexual assault, getting paid for autographs and suspended for his inappropriate comments while on campus. Just stop.

C) Not all college kids do the things he's doing. He's a fucking moron.

Exactly why I didn't want to get into it haha.

Let me ask you this....do you honestly believe Jameis walked into Publix and walked out with some crab legs because he was trying to steal them? Do you think Jameis is the first person to walk into that Publix and walk out with some crab legs without paying for them?
 

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Update: James Spence Authentication has authenticated MORE THAN 900 Winston signatures, including more than 400 signed jersey #'s.
 

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Exactly why I didn't want to get into it haha.

Let me ask you this....do you honestly believe Jameis walked into Publix and walked out with some crab legs because he was trying to steal them? Do you think Jameis is the first person to walk into that Publix and walk out with some crab legs without paying for them?

It doesn't matter what I believe. The way you described it is exactly how it happened.
 

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