Penn st got what was coming -school a disgrace

brucefan · Jan 3, 2018

StevieRay said:
He’s right where he needs to be. Learning to like old man butt sex in the pen

Which "victim" do believe the most ? All of them? Which one do know for sure, was abused and why do you think that?

The tide is turning on this case and at some point , the truth will come out . An innocent man is in jail, , and the winning-est coach in college football legacy destroyed

Horrific injustice

StevieRay · Jan 3, 2018

Hillary is innocent also

brucefan · Jan 4, 2018

StevieRay said:
Hillary is innocent also

No see there is massive amounts of evidence against her ( at least stuff she hasn't deleted)

Nothing against Jerry

PS Newsweek

StevieRay · Jan 4, 2018

Originally Posted by StevieRay
Lol. He admitted it

"This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."
Joe Pa

brucefan · Jan 5, 2018

Sure, Joe was a good man . At that moment Joe was being told Jerry was a Ped , and no one was questioning his guilt He was also a very old man who was just diagnosed with terminal cancer . Does that sound to you like a quote from someone who just got caught in some conspiracy to cover up anything, or someone with some honor, who at that moment wanted to take some responsibility ?

Here was the article written by SG, before everything went nuts

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/paterno_praised_for_acting_app.html

brucefan · Jan 14, 2018

Did ‘Repressed Memory’ Falsely Convict Jerry Sandusky?

By Megan Hadley | <time class="entry-date updated dtstamp pubdate" datetime="2018-01-03T10:00:46+00:00">January 3, 2018</time>

https://thecrimereport.org/2018/01/03/did-repressed-memory-falsely-convict-jerry-sandusky/

Repressed memory and milions of dollars

Salsantorre · Jan 16, 2018

The butt- fucker was innocent I tell ya, INNOCENT!

StevieRay · Jan 16, 2018

Yea! No pooh on his penis

brucefan · Jan 16, 2018

INCASE YOU GUYS WANT TO SIGN THE PETITION
http://www.change.org/p/president-psu-put-the-joepa-statue-back-where-it-belongs

PatsFanatic · Jan 19, 2018

Really good coach, better enabler...

StevieRay · Jan 19, 2018

PatsFanatic said:
Really good coach, better enabler...

Liked watching

brucefan · Jan 24, 2018

Why the Larry Nassar Scandal Has Almost Nothing In Common with Penn State and Jerry Sandusky

JOHN ZIEGLER JAN 24, 2018 5:28 PM

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</amp-img>As former USA Gymnastics and Michigan State doctor, and convicted child sex abuser, Larry Nassar faced his seemingly never-ending stream of accusers during his sentencing hearing (resulting, today, in him getting 175 years in prison), a very consistent, predictable, and extraordinarily lazy media narrative has emerged…

This whole nightmare is just like what happened at Penn State with Jerry Sandusky, or maybe, given the much larger number of accusers, it is even worse.
I totally understand how people who only read headlines, and blindly buy whatever they are told by a news media which is no longer competent enough to be trusted on complex and emotionally-charged stories, would come to this conclusion. After all, both Nassar and Sandusky worked for large college athletic programs, both were accused of sexual abusing lots of teenage kids over an extended period of time, and both led to their respective former employers being suspected of a massive cover up.
However, as someone who has studied the “Penn State Scandal” more intensively than anyone in the world over the last six years, I know this comparison to be completely illegitimate. I literally laughed at one headline in the New York Post which declared, “Michigan State Officials Shrug at Nassar Case: It’s No Sandusky,” because that is absolutely true, just for reasons that are very different than they undoubtedly perceive.
The two cases actually have almost nothing in common. In fact, the Nassar case exposes the absurdity of the entire Penn State/Sandusky media narrative.
Here are just some of the key elements that the Nassar scandal has which did not happen in the Sandusky case:

Nassar was found to have lots of child porn. Sandusky had absolutely none of any kind.
Nassar quickly pled guilty. Sandusky never even considered a plea bargain and still strongly maintains his innocence, this despite having almost no chance of ever getting out of prison.
Nassar used a legitimate medical procedure to get his victims naked and fool everyone that he wasn’t doing anything wrong. While he did very occasionally shower in semi-public places with some of them, Sandusky had no similar ability to get heterosexual teenage boys to do the same, and was not even accused at trial of using drugs or alcohol to ply his victims.
As proven by the porn, Nassar clearly has a sexual orientation to girls. There is no evidence, other than the accusations themselves, that Sandusky has a sexual orientation towards boys.
Nassar’s wife immediately filed for divorce. Sandusky’s wife, who knew all of his accusers extremely well, is still his strongest supporter, making long trips to visit him in prison every week.
USA Gymnastics paid at least one very high-profile victim lots of money to sign an NDA, long before Nassar was convicted. No one ever even asked for money from Sandusky or Penn State to keep quiet.
Nassar had over 150 victims willing to be known and to speak publicly, forcefully, and passionately about their abuse. Only a handful of Sandusky accusers have ever made themselves known publicly, none have ever expressed remotely similar emotion, and all of them did so with an extreme financial motive.

As for the cover-up allegations, I am quite positive that there was no cover-up at Penn State. Contrary to media perception, no one was even ever convicted of such a charge (the three Penn State administrators were only convicted, illegitimately in the view of the jury foreman, of one count of misdemeanor child endangerment). There is also no evidence, in my mind, nor any logic, to suggest that there was a cover-up.
While I believe there are literally a thousand data points which contradict the Penn State cover-up myth, the one that is easiest for people to understand is this:
When the only person (then part-time graduate assistant coach Mike McQueary) who ever came directly to Penn State to complain about the retired Sandusky, the school’s wide receivers job had just opened up two days earlier. This was a gig Mcqueary badly wanted, however he did NOT get the position.
Had there been any kind of Penn State cover-up on behalf of FORMER assistant Sandusky, the FIRST thing that would have transpired is that McQueary would have gotten that job and been urged to keep quiet. Neither of those things ever came close to happening.
While I would like to learn more, I also doubt that there was a proactive cover-up at Michigan State (though I am less certain about USA Gymnastics). There simply was no motive for a school to protect a sex abuser because he was helping with athletes in non-revenue sports which very few people even care about on the college level.
Interestingly, Michigan State is responding to all of this in a VERY different and MUCH stronger manner than Penn State did, and I believe that, while they are getting some short-term criticism for it, this could end up working to their advantage.
The number one thing people don’t understand about the “Penn State Scandal” is that PSU completely panicked in firing legendary head football coach Joe Paterno, who was actually a very key prosecution witness and was initially praised for his handling of the situation. This caused those who run the school to have a perverse incentive to curl up into the fetal position and take blame for things which the school had nothing to do with, and which likely never even happened in the first place.
Because Michigan State lacks a Joe Paterno figure to drive massive media coverage beyond today’s sentencing, I am predicting that the NCAA does not rush to judgment like they did with Penn State.
Sometimes evil people are just unfortunately able to get away with horrible acts. It sure seems like Nassar had the perfect set up to do exactly that in this case. Thankfully, he no longer does.
John Ziegler hosts a weekly podcast focusing on news media issues and is documentary filmmaker. He has long written about what he believes were the flaws in the case against Jerry Sandusky. You can follow him on Twitter at @ZigManFreud or email him at johnz@mediaite.com
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brucefan · Mar 8, 2018

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A book on the ex-football coach’s case casts doubt on memories of his victims.
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Jerry Sandusky with Penn State University coach Joe Paterno in 1999. Photo Credit: AP / Paul Vathis

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When once-renowned sports physician Larry Nassar was sentenced to prison last month for sexually assaulting well over a hundred girls and young women in his care, many stories compared the case to that of Jerry Sandusky, the disgraced former Penn State University football coach serving a de facto life sentence for abusing boys. That’s not surprising: Sandusky’s name has become synonymous with “serial child molester.” Anyone defending Sandusky’s innocence risks being seen as the same species of crank that argues school shootings are hoaxes.
But veteran journalist Mark Pendergrast takes that risk in a recently published book “The Most Hated Man in America.” As a fan of Pendergrast’s 1995 book, “Victims of Memory,” which tackled the phenomenon of “repressed memories” of sexual abuse before it was widely discredited, I was extremely skeptical when I learned about his new subject.
Having read “The Most Hated Man,” I am willing to say the Sandusky story deserves a new look by the media. But the book’s relevance goes beyond this specific case: It sounds a timely warning about the importance of looking past moral panics and established narratives.

In the Sandusky case, we all have heard that an assistant coach and Penn State graduate student saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy in the shower nearly 10 years before the coach’s 2011 arrest, and that student’s attempts to report it went unheeded. What’s far less known is that, while the assistant coach was suspicious, he was not sure what he had seen. He heard slapping sounds and interpreted them as sexual. But the young man later identified as the boy in that incident repeatedly denied that he was molested by Sandusky and told investigators they were simply snapping towels at each other.

In 2008, the mother of a teen mentored by Sandusky as part of his charity became suspicious of Sandusky’s relationship with her son. Four years later, Sandusky was convicted of abusing him and seven others. The evidence as related by the victims seems overwhelming.
And yet Pendergrast, who examined the records, lays out a surprisingly strong case that all the accounts were elicited in therapy from subjects who initially denied any misconduct by Sandusky and then gradually recalled more and more severe abuse. (Unfortunately, Pendergrast was only able to interview one of these young men.) In his view, the Sandusky case relied on recovered memories, even if that term was not used by the authorities — and was further driven by intense, uncritical media coverage.
Is Sandusky, now 74, a crafty pedophile who used his mentorship to groom and abuse vulnerable boys? Or is he, as Pendergrast has come to believe, a genuinely kind, naive man who never thought that affectionate physical contact with boys could be construed as sexual?
So far, Pennsylvania’s higher courts have denied Sandusky’s appeals; Pendergrast believes that the state’s elected appellate judges are too afraid of the voters’ wrath and that Sandusky might get relief from the federal courts.
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</aside>In the meantime, the belief in Sandusky’s guilt is so strong that no mainstream publisher would take on “The Most Hated Man in America,” despite an endorsement from renowned psychologist Elizabeth Loftus.
The questions raised by Pendergrast deserve a public airing and good answers. Let’s not forget that at one point, no one doubted the guilt of the “Central Park five,” the teenage boys convicted of raping a jogger. Now, it’s those who believe in their guilt who are seen as oddball “truthers.”

It’s something to remember in the age of #MeToo. It’s also something to remember when looking back at the Sandusky story.
Cathy Young is a contributing editor to Reason magazine.
By Cathy Young https://www.newsday.com/opinion/columnists/cathy-young/jerry-sandusky-legacy-1.17001451

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brucefan · Mar 12, 2018

Speaker Defends Sandusky, Discussing Malleability of Memory

By NICOLE POLLACK
February 28, 2018

“There’s one thing I should make clear. There is absolutely no way, in the brief period of time I’m going to speak, that I’m going to convince you of anything in this very complex case.”
Science writer Mark Pendergrast used these words to begin his Tuesday, Feb. 20 lecture “The Malleability of Memory and the Conviction of Jerry Sandusky.” Pendergrast, who has authored 14 books on topics ranging from caffeinated beverages to Japanese renewable energy policies, spoke in the Axinn Center about his latest book, “The Most Hated Man in America: Jerry Sandusky and the Rush to Judgment.”
Pendergrast began his talk by summarizing the well-known case of Jerry Sandusky, the former Pennsylvania State University assistant football coach who is a convicted serial rapist and child molester. In 1977, Sandusky founded a charity called The Second Mile in State College, Pennsylvania, to provide help and support to atrisk youth. The program also gave Sandusky decades of unsupervised access to vulnerable boys. He was arrested on pedophilia-related charges in 2011 and found guilty in 2012. Yet despite the numerous witnesses who have recounted stories of his abuse, Sandusky insists that he was wrongly convicted.
“I don’t think he’s guilty,” said Pendergrast. “I think he’s entirely innocent.”
Pendergrast explained that much of the case against Sandusky depended on repressed memory therapy, a technique meant to retrieve traumatic experiences that children block from consciousness. Therapists helped Sandusky’s witnesses rebuild memories of abuse that they could not recall. “I’m assuming that everyone knows that repressed memories are pseudoscience,” said Pendergrast. “The idea that you would forget terrible things is not true.”
Pendergrast said that when he first learned about the case, “I was appalled by it, and like everyone, I thought Jerry Sandusky must have done this.” Interviews with Sandusky and his children changed Pendergrast’s mind. Of Sandusky’s six children, five defend their father, describing him as “touchy-feely” but in a paternal way. Adopted son Matt Sandusky started out backing his siblings, but he changed his story after attending repressed memory therapy. He eventually released a statement saying that his father had sexually abused him.
Pendergrast saw Sandusky’s lack of maltreatment toward his own children as an early indication that other witnesses’ stories might not add up. He said, “I would think that if [he were] a pedophile and [he] had four of these interviewed boys, that he would try to do something with them. They weren’t even related by blood. But he didn’t.”
Accusations against Sandusky collected over the years, but former Penn State quarterback Mike McQueary ignited the controversy when he overheard slapping sounds in the locker room shower. It was Sandusky with a boy. Pendergrast emphasized that while McQueary initially spoke only of hearing sounds he interpreted as sexual, his story shifted after he, too, attended repressed memory therapy. There, he remembered seeing Sandusky’s hips moving behind a child’s. The boy in the shower, Allan Myers, later testified that he and Sandusky had been snapping towels and that he could recall nothing sexual about the incident.
Pendergrast recognized that the circumstances of McQueary’s accusation were inherently suspicious. People would question a man in his mid-fifties showering, nude, with a child. Pendergrast responded by describing Sandusky as a “supportive goofball” who was oblivious to what others considered socially acceptable.
Most of the witnesses who ended up testifying against Sandusky said that they had pushed away memories of his abuse until therapy allowed them to recognize what really happened. Pendergrast believes that the therapists implanted the witnesses with false memories. He quoted “Victim 7,” Dustin Struble, as saying, “I had everything blocked out.” Struble also said, “I was good at pushing memories of abuse away. [My therapist] explained a lot to me since this happened.”
“I don’t believe he was abused,” said Pendergrast.
Sandusky’s attorney was, as Pendergrast put it, “completely clueless about repressed memory.” He had no idea how to fight a string of victims who defended Sandusky until they went to therapy and remembered the abuse he had put them through. According to Pendergrast, trial mismanagement and blind trust in repressed memory doomed Sandusky, but because Pennsylvania’s judges are elected rather than appointed, he has little hope of being granted a retrial.
Pendergrast did not expect his brief talk to change anyone’s mind. His stance on Sandusky is so unpopular that he could not find a publisher for his book, which can instead be purchased online in paperback and Kindle form. Pendergrast, who hopes that people will consider his perspective before forming their own conclusions, said, “I beg you to actually read the book.”
When asked whether he believed repressed memory played a role in the #MeToo Movement, Pendergrast said that while repressed memory likely influences some cases, he does not think it is a significant factor. While he sees the #MeToo Movement as “shedding light on the way women have been treated,” he is concerned by events such as the firing of Garrison Keillor. “Where are the details?” Pendergrast said. “The man’s life has been ruined.”
https://middleburycampus.com/37886/...s-sandusky-discussing-malleability-of-memory/

brucefan · Mar 12, 2018

https://m.soundcloud.com/freespeechbroadcasting/2018-12-03-hr3-penn-state-update

From John : Part 3 of the newly/finally released WATZ podcast provides an important update on the incredibly frustrating/soul-crushing quest to get the full truth of the "Penn State Scandal" into the mainstream media before HBO's bogus "Paterno" movie airs in April.

StevieRay · Mar 13, 2018

And yet the fudge packer spends another year in the pen

brucefan · Mar 26, 2018

The next few weeks will be very interesting

Aaron Fisher, Victim 1: As a 15-year-old, Aaron Fisher initially said that Jerry Sandusky had hugged him to crack his back, with their clothes on. Over the next three years, with the urging of psychotherapist Mike Gillum, Fisher eventually came to “remember” multiple instances of oral sex. Gillum apparently believed that memories too painful to recall lie buried in the unconscious, causing mental illness of all kinds—among them, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and alcoholism. “They (abuse victims) just want to numb themselves and push away the unpleasant memories,” Gillum wrote in the book, Silent No More. He sought to “peel back the layers of the onion” of the brain to get to abuse memories. Nor did Aaron Fisher have to tell him anything. Gillum would guess what happened and Fisher only had to nod his head or say Yes. “I was very blunt with him when I asked questions but gave him the ability to answer with a yes or a no, that relieved him of a lot of burden,” Gillum wrote. In the same book, Aaron Fisher recalled: “Mike just kept saying that Jerry was the exact profile of a predator. When it finally sank in, I felt angry.”

Fisher explained that “I was good at pushing it (memories of abuse) all away . . . Once the weekends [with Jerry] were over, I managed to lock it all deep inside my mind somehow. That was how I dealt with it until next time. Mike has explained a lot to me since this all happened. He said that what I was doing is called compartmentalizing. . . . I was in such denial about everything.” Without the three years of therapy with Mike Gillum, it is unlikely that Aaron Fisher would ever have accused Jerry Sandusky of sexual abuse, and the case would never have gone forward.

https://m.soundcloud.com/freespeechbroadcasting/2018-03-25-2-megan-kern
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_normal]John give a Penn State Update and talks with Megan Kern an ex-girl of Aaron Fisher[/FONT]

damian · Mar 26, 2018

brucefan said:
The next few weeks will be very interesting

Why?

brucefan · Mar 30, 2018

damian said:
Why?

Huge blowout article is supposed to be released in Newsweek. Lots of new information including Johns fake accuser

Will they have the balls to publish it?

Most importantly trying get the truth out prior to the HBO movie which will be a complete work of fiction

sniperpicks · Mar 30, 2018

that HBO movie better have a scene where JoePa (Pacino) walks by the shower and sees Sandusky raping a little boy and JoePa says ....................... Great Ass ! Hoooooo Haaaaaaa !