'sherman said:
I've been playing online poker for profit for 3 years now, and think the reason people keep seeing the ridiculous hands at Party Poker is because they get a lot of fish, who play too many hands. When you have 7 or 8 guys in a hand, you are going to get a lot crap (starting) hands winning the pot. I mean they don't fold and will go for the runner runner runner. My experience there is if you got pocket aces or kings, which would be golden in a regular b&m game, and don't flop a set, most times you have to get out, because out of the 7 other people in the hand, someone will surely beat you with their crap.
I have been playing poker for over 10 years. Online for over three years, I quit recently.
The cards are not the same, and the RNG is not fair.
It has nothing to do with playing more hands. I have played roughly 100,000 hands in a brick and mortor room, and have seen quads 7 times. I have played roughly 50,000 hands online and have seen quads hundreds of times.
I could care less what you or any other person says as I have experienced this first hand. Anyone who has played online will tell you that you always get better cards right after you deposit, shortly thereafter you will have the worst run of cards in your life. I mean this does make some practical sense. Let the player win in the beginning, hoping he will stay and continue to play, then let him lose his winnings to the next new player. It is a revolving process but it does make sense from a buisness standpoint.
Now don't get me wrong, some rooms seem very fair and true to life. However others like pokerstars and partypoker have to be the biggest jokes on the planet. True, some people win thousands in tournaments and do well in the short term but they are in the very very small majorty (<1 percent)
Then again it is your money so spend it how you see fit.
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baseballguy- you are way wrong. There is no deposit scam, that is only what losing players say. I play online for a living and my cards have always been the same. That is so stupid, it makes no business sense for Partypoker to do that. It is shocking you have only seen quads 7 times in 100,000 hands of play. I have seen quads more at the boat and I have logged about 120 hours in B & M play. Hell my friend hit the quads jackpot twice at Mandalay in vegas on the same day! And you have to have 2 in your hand to do this.
BaseballGuy said:
I think you greatly underestimating the frequency of quads, particularly if you are playing online where a lot more people are staying in. It has EVERYTHING to do with how many hands people are playing...more chances for that low pair to pick up the last 2, or for the low single to pick up all 3.
that is the most backwards thing I ever heard. If that is true, then you should just sign up with these places, play enough hands to win money and then quit. It makes no sense from a business standpoint because you are not bringing in more money, just passing it around from player to player.
If you got KK or aces in a real game and you got 7 callers before flop, you will win about 20% of the time, it is very hard to win with AA or KK with 7 callers, you almost have to flop a set, plus this guy says he mad $60 million and he is selling **** for 29 dollars on ebay, people who have $60 mil don't waste their time with this crap, just like in sports people who beat the game don't give out their secrets, and if you got PP figured out then you just keep milking it, you don't sell crap about it for 29 dollars. this guy is a scammer, and whoever buys this crap deserves to get scammed.
You are too saying it is a scam. You are saying they scam people who by letting them win and then forcing them to lose. And if you are that good to win thousands in one day, then you are leaving a lot of money on the table. But if you are really winning thousands the first day, you would have no trouble winning over the long term. Party isnt rigged.
60,000 people on line at party in prime time so they must take in 60,000 an hour. i understand the business is worth 120 million in net so are they going to scam somebody for $50.00 lets get real. have been playing there for relaxation for 2 years have my original investment out and play tournys with house money so to speak. 5 and 10 tournys sure get beat ith garabge on the river sometime but also win with the river sometime so whats the big deal? its a better deal than playing bj or vidio poker online. its just great for relaxation and fun isnt that what its all about?
MBG I play at prima 80% + of the time. you get a 50 dollar bonus on initial sign up and then youre done with it. after that there is no bonus.
here are a few things I do:
I play the 6 people fixed limit game. see that everyone is talking go ahead and chat. the engine works very well. you can get over your paranoia that they are not bots. about 3-4 people see the flop. use your skills from there.
tournaments. play gauranteed money. if the gaurantee is 25k but only 150 people show up, guess what. its still a 25k pay out.
I call it being "opportunistic", not "bonus whoring".
here are a few things I do:
I play the 6 people fixed limit game. see that everyone is talking go ahead and chat. the engine works very well. you can get over your paranoia that they are not bots. about 3-4 people see the flop. use your skills from there.
tournaments. play gauranteed money. if the gaurantee is 25k but only 150 people show up, guess what. its still a 25k pay out.
I call it being "opportunistic", not "bonus whoring".
