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It always restores my hope in humanity to see a man with his priorities set right . . . . .
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i saw him play many twice in person and numberous times on tv. what i see is a guy with a great arm who hasnt really learned how to handle pressure yet. sj state wont be able to even get near him, but if he comes out against ohio st my prediction is that its going to be pick city. last season at mater dei he didnt really have the OL he had the previous 3 years and it exposed his weakness, facing pressure. still not sure what happened to mustain. was 7-0 as starter at ark until houston nutter sat him in favor of the piss poor casey dick and now the only guy with any real d-1 game experience is 3rd string? :think2: think he may be the next matt cassel?

Mustain should blame his big mouthed mother for his career that has gone up in flames! I agree what I saw at Ark under Nutt was a pretty good player.

Hay El Taino stop by LLV!!

On another note I still can't believe MD is a 21pt DOG. I also think if CAL is any kind of team at all that revenge will be a huge factor in the game. CAL had no idea what hit them last year as they got off the plane and it was 105 degrees with 95% humidity ... they literally melted on the Maryland field .. :lol:
 

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Bout the same issues we talked about earlier, OL and secondary being biggest concerns for UW.

Revisiting the comfort ratings

Posted by Bob Condotta
A couple of weeks ago, a reader asked if I would compile all of the "comfort ratings'' I did for each position into one handy blog entry.
Sadly, I forgot --- my wife's birthday is in August and she can attest that this is my worst month for remembering anything due largely to the confluence of a new season and the end of summer with the kids and getting them ready for a new school year.
Anyway, thought now might be a good time to reprise those ratings now that we are two weeks into camp, looking at where I rated them then and assessing whether UW fans might feel more, or less, comfortable now.
To refresh the memory, I rated each position on a scale of 1-10, with one being most comfortable, 10 the least.
QUARTERBACK --- 3 (this is the number I gave at the time). Should Husky fans more or less comfortable now, or the same? More, if just by a little. This was already pretty high, based on the assumption that Jake Locker would pick up where he left off in the spring. There have been a few rocky days, but overall, Locker seems to be progressing as hoped. And in assessing the position as a whole, Keith Price has shown so far that he could have a pretty good future, giving the team a solid long-term option going forward.
RUNNING BACK --- 3. And this is another position where you'd probably say you are more comfortable now, especially with the move of Johri Fogerson from safety, which initially seemed done to add depth but may have done a lot more than that as Fogerson has played so well that he's likely to get significant action this season. But that rise on the depth chart is mostly because he's played well, not because any of the other guys have slacked off. All have looked good at times and the biggest trick for UW coaches will be figuring out how to maximize the abilities of each and get everyone enough touches. One negative has been starting FB Paul Homer missing a week or so with a hamstring injury. But he appears to be on the road to recovery, and if there's one guy who probably doesn't need all the camp time to learn the playbook it would be Homer.
WIDE RECEIVERS --- 5. You probably feel about the same. While there have been some issues with dropped passes throughout camp, which helped lead to the recent shakeup in the depth chart, the fast rise of James Johnson and the continued progress of Jordan Polk helps mitigate that a bit. Also factored in here is that the tight end position looks strong with Kavario Middleton arriving to camp in better shape than a year ago and Dorson Boyce also showing he should be able to contribute this year.
OFFENSIVE LINE --- 7. About the same. The question marks facing this unit when camp started are still there --- notably, will the young right side hold up and will there be enough depth should injuries strike? There have already been a few minor injuries and UW coaches showed a little impatience with the progression of Drew Schaefer at right tackle by moving Nick Scott into the starting lineup for a couple of practices. But Schaefer is now back and for now, the five that began camp as the starters remain in those roles.
DEFENSIVE LINE --- 7. Better. The defensive line has generally gotten the better of the O-line, meaning its comfort level ought to probably be a little bit higher. Everyone has stayed healthy so far, and coaches have lauded the improvement of Cameron Elisara. There also seems to be some quality depth emerging, especially with some of the true freshmen playing well enough that coaches say they probably won't redshirt.
LINEBACKERS --- 2. About the same. This was already the highest on the team, so it couldn't improve much. The play has been fine, but E.J. Savannah has suffered a couple of injuries that could prove nagging through the season. And backup SLB Matt Houston, who had been playing well, suffered a biceps injury that could have him out a month --- the only loss to injury so far of a player at any position that could hold him out for the opener. However, the quick progression of Jordan Wallace may add some unexpected depth.
SECONDARY --- 8. About the same. There has been the positive of Justin Glenn appearing to solidify the other cornerback spot and Greg Walker the other safety spot, with David Batts showing enough to indicate he may also factor in there. But the Huskies did lose Dominique Gaisie to grades since our first assessment. And while there haven't been any major injuries, both Jason Wells and Victor Aiyewa have missed some significant time of late and that doesn't bode real well given the recent injury history of each. And there is also still a lot of youth here that's hard to know how it will react come gameday.
SPECIAL TEAMS --- 8. Better. After some early struggles, PK Erik Folk has gotten more accurate, and there's no question that his leg strength is the best UW has had since John Anderson graduated in 2002. And Will Mahan has been solid enough throughout camp to indicate that the punting should be all right.
Overall, I have none of the spots as worse than when camp started. That may seem kind of pie-in-the-sky to some, but one of the key reasons for that is that the Huskies have had the good fortunate so far to avoid any really significant injuries --- as noted above, Houston appears to be the only player who has suffered an injury in camp that would hold him out of the LSU game.
 

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Like the Oregon play and the Stanford under.

I have also made a small play on AZ/C.M. Under 54. There is a fair amount of unknows here but from what i have been reading in the local press and the blogs, the pass game has not looked good for the cats. Very few points scored in the scrimmages. On the flip side the defense has been performing well.
 

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If the MD defense can hold up this might be a fairly low scoring game.. Not fizzle completely but their #2 RB, Vereen is a downgrade, maybe 4-5 ypc.

Vereen is a bit of a downgrade however the MD defense is really, really suspect. They have another back that may get snaps who is electric.

I would think both CAL backs get over 100 in this one.

Just a thought. Love the revenge factor for CAL in this one.

WinOne!!
 

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CMU loooks like they are catching 14 everywhere now, you gonna move on this one? Im seriously considering
 
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Vereen is a bit of a downgrade however the MD defense is really, really suspect. They have another back that may get snaps who is electric.

I would think both CAL backs get over 100 in this one.

Just a thought. Love the revenge factor for CAL in this one.

WinOne!!

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Pac-10 injury update
August 31, 2009 11:26 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Ted Miller


Based on news reports and this this useful Web site: The latest on injuries heading into week one.

Arizona
TE Rob Gronkowski, back, questionable
OG Vaughn Dotsy, finger, probable
WR Delashaun Dean, hamstring, probable

Arizona State
OT Tom Njunge, biceps, questionable
C Garth Gerhart, toe, questionable
C Thomas Altieri, concussion, probable
OG Zach Schlink, knee, out
DT Lawrence Guy, biceps, probable
DE James Brooks, suspension, out

California
RB Jahvid Best, toe, probable
TE Tad Smith, knee, out
OT Mitchell Schwartz, leg, probable
S Marcus Ezeff, ankle, questionable
WR Michael Calvin, knee, probable
LB Robert Mullins, knee, out
TE Skylar Curran, ankle, probable

Oregon
WR Rory Cavaille, shoulder, out,
OT Bo Thran, knee, questionable

Oregon State
WR Darrell Catchings, wrist, out
WR Markus Wheaton, NCAA Clearinghouse, questionable
WR Geno Munoz, abdominal, questionable
QB Lyle Moevao, shoulder, out
RB Ryan McCants, knee, out
CB Brandon Hardin, leg, out
OT Timi Oshinowo, knee, out
LB Tony Wilson, knee, out
S Josh LaGrone, knee, out
S Lance Mitchell, hamstring, probable

Stanford
OT Allen Smith, knee, out
S Taylor Skaufel, knee, out
OT Chris Marinelli, shoulder, probable
LB Alex Debniak, knee, out

UCLA
OG Micah Kia, knee, out
OL Nick Ekbatani, knee, out
DE Reginald Stokes, knee, out
DT Jess Ward, knee, doubtful
RB Christian Ramirez, ankle, questionable
DE Chinonso Anyanwu, hip, out
WR Gavin Ketchum, hamstring, questionable
OG Stanley Hasiak, stinger, probable
FB Chane Moline, hip, probable

USC
CB Shareece Wright, knee, academics, questionable
WR Ronald Johnson, collarbone, out
DE Armond Armstead, foot, out
C Kristofer O'Dowd, knee, doubtful
DT Averell Spicer, ankle, questionable
OG Nick Howell, ankle, questionable
LB Luthur Brown, academics, out
TE Blake Ayles, heart condition, probable
QB Aaron Corp, leg, questionable
QB Mitch Mustain, illness, probable
CB Patrick Hall, knee, out

Washington
CB Justin Glenn, knee, questionable
DT Cameron Elisara, shoulder, probable
RB Johri Fogerson, ankle, probable
RB Chris Polk, concussion, probable
WR James Johnson, ankle, probable
DE Darrion Jones, illness, probable
TE Kavario Middleton, hamstring, probable
DE Everrette Thompson, ankle, questionable
S Jason Wells, Achilles, doubtful

Washington State
WR Jeshua Anderson, hamstring, probable
RB James Montgomery, knee, probable
CB Brandon Jones, ankle, probable
WR Jeffrey Solomon, ankle, probable
LB Alex Hoffman-Ellis, foot, questionable
 

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GL ducksmaster.. Have a great season
Thx Gyno. You too!





CMU loooks like they are catching 14 everywhere now, you gonna move on this one? Im seriously considering

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CMU +14 (-120), .5 unit
CMU/AZ UNDER 54.5, .5 unit


RECAP
ORE +6, 1 unit
ORE/BSU OVER 60.5, .5 unit
Stanford -16.5, 1 unit
Stan/WSU under 56, .5 unit
CMU +14 (-120), .5 unit
CMU/AZ UNDER 54.5, .5 unit

The only other bets that interest me this week will be UW/LSU. Looking for half time bet and full game. Hoping line climbs.
 

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How does everyone feel in regards to the new Oregon head coach?!~~~! I realize he has been the offensive coach prior.
 

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Pac-10 injury update
August 31, 2009 11:26 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Ted Miller


Based on news reports and this this useful Web site: The latest on injuries heading into week one.

Probably all it would take for me to be convinced that Ted Miller reads this forum would be if a ghost, any ghost came on here with his first post saying it's true, Miller stops by.

Congrats to our own Right Angle for his most excellent idea and resource every capper should have. College injury report.com

May you retire from the profits it makes just from Ted Miller's endorsement.

BOL

And:

Nice slate their Ducks. I am about 50% in lock step and I'm also going to make a "ducktail" wager on UW in the 1H because -- credit where credit's due. And to me, it's looking better by the day.

That's a little different than game lines that we both spot on the board. Some of them are kind of obvious to many people that have studied all through spring and summer. But a ducktail bet is more like saying "nice catch."

I haven't yet seen any 1H's posted at my usual spots yet but I think the number will improve closer to kickoff anyway.

PS.. Blackbox. A fantastic hire and an excellent decision. Kelly's da man.
 

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Ducks, I just took CMU at +14. I think this is way too many points and I am with you on the pick. At least CMU has their offense already in place and returns a healthy QB that can rush and create some opportunities to hit his favorite 2 receivers. LeFavour being healthy will be huge for CMU as it will open up the passing game. Gotta love catching 14 points with the better QB and offense to start the season in my opinion. BOL this season and thanks for all your hardwork you put in during the summer. I am reader everyday...

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Thx Gyno. You too!







Yes
ADDING:
CMU +14 (-120), .5 unit
CMU/AZ UNDER 54.5, .5 unit


RECAP
ORE +6, 1 unit
ORE/BSU OVER 60.5, .5 unit
Stanford -16.5, 1 unit
Stan/WSU under 56, .5 unit
CMU +14 (-120), .5 unit
CMU/AZ UNDER 54.5, .5 unit

The only other bets that interest me this week will be UW/LSU. Looking for half time bet and full game. Hoping line climbs.

I really like the CMU/Arizona under in that game, Ducks. Good luck this week!
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Good luck this season Ducks.
Thx Pez,
Just checked your thread, always glad when we are on the same side.

I can't sleep I'm so excited for the season ducks...

You and me both. Best time of year is about to begin!

Ducks, I just took CMU at +14. I think this is way too many points and I am with you on the pick. At least CMU has their offense already in place and returns a healthy QB that can rush and create some opportunities to hit his favorite 2 receivers. LeFavour being healthy will be huge for CMU as it will open up the passing game. Gotta love catching 14 points with the better QB and offense to start the season in my opinion. BOL this season and thanks for all your hardwork you put in during the summer. I am reader everyday...

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Thx LB,
This time patience payed off waiting for those points. Hopefully it pans out and there are no defensive or spec teams TD's! Best of luck to you too.

I really like the CMU/Arizona under in that game, Ducks. Good luck this week!

Same to you, great work this offseason. It WILL pay off!


PS> That Uw line keeps climbing just as we all expected. I am very close to biting on it. A decent read, he sees the possibilities as I do. What is interesting is that his prose is earily similar to something I wrote about this game here earlier this summer. Hmmm.



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Game week is finally here, and after a day off on Sunday the Huskies begin their regular preparatory routine to be carried out 12 (hopefully 13!) times over the season. In a perfect world, a new coach for a team coming off an 0-12 season would be warming-up against an Idaho, a San Jose St., or a Nevada. This isn't a perfect world, and therefore the new-look Huskies open up on national TV against SEC-giant LSU.
Let's take an early look at what to expect Saturday night from an LSU perspective.
LSU had some issues on offense in 2008, and for that matter, the defense wasn't up to its usual standard, either. The Tigers managed an 8-5 record, which would have brought forth in a ticker-tape parade in Seattle. In Baton Rouge, however, such a finish got some assistant coaches fired.
The Tigers are likely to enter this game with little--if any--respect for Washington. Expect LSU to come into Husky Stadium on Saturday night with swagger and confidence, potentially working to the Huskies advantage should Washington come out early and hit them in the mouth. If that happens it has the potential to throw the Tigers off balance early; never underestimate the difficulty of playing on the road in a BCS conference.
I believe LSU will attempt to keep things simple, looking to run the ball down Washington's throat, minimize mistakes, and control the clock. Senior running back Charles Scott is their go-to guy; expect the Tigers and to keep handing him the ball until Washington shows they can shut down the run. LSU's offensive line has the potential to be dominating, taking pressure off of their young sophomore quarterback, Jordan Jefferson.
Washington must force LSU to air it out more than they would like. Jefferson is a young guy likely to make mistakes on the road on opening night. If LSU simply runs the ball all night and controls the line of scrimmage, Jefferson's mistakes will be minimized. Washington has to take the Tigers out of their offensive game plan and comfort zone.
Defensively, the Tigers will follow the blueprint teams have been using against Jake Locker since early 2007: contain Locker and you contain Washington's offense. They will attempt to shut down the run and force Jake to beat them with his arm, something Jake has yet to do since arriving at Washington. Washington must take advantage of LSU's defensive youth and inexperience early to prove they can move the ball with balance. That being said, the Tigers have plenty of talent and speed defensively; like USC, this roster is loaded with four and five star recruits. UW isn't nearly as fast in most positions, so they are going to have to play smarter than the Tigers in order to beat them.
Washington needs to make some big plays early to throw the Tigers off balance. There is no way Washington can beat these guys going head-to-head all evening. Look for some trickery and creativity on offense. Expect the defense to take risks and go after the QB. Washington won't be playing it safe on Saturday; Sark and company are going to throw everything they have at the Tigers.
Special teams are going to be huge. Will Mahan needs to punt the ball well and force fair catches. If he doesn't, the Tigers have the ability to bring it to the house and score some cheap ones. The Wild Bunch (as Sark calls his special teams) needs to be truly special; Washington must win this area of the game.
In past seasons, we have watched Washington teams with similar talent take opponents (like USC) to the very last snap of the game. We saw a Jake Locker-led team in 2007 lead Ohio State midway through the third quarter. With the right game-plan, effort, and a vocal home crowd Washington is capable of hanging with these guys.
Washington needs to shock the Tigers by taking an early lead and make them play from behind. Playing from behind usually has the effect of taking a team out of its normal game plan. Take away the normal game plan and you have the opportunity Washington hopes for.
2009 Game Changing Factors
Let's take a quick look at four factors which I believe will make Washington a much better team in 2009 than they were in in 2007, and 2008. Obviously there are more than just four but lets start off with the obvious as we start the week.
The Locker Factor
As many as 2000 fans have seen Washington practice on a single afternoon this pre-season. No matter how many times you watched the offense over the past three weeks you never actually saw how they are going to play the game offensively on Saturday night. The reason is Jake Locker has been practicing being a drop back QB in the pro set without the wrinkles that make him one of the most dangerous players players in the country.
Missing from practice for the most part has been Jake's ability to tuck the ball under his arm and take it down the field for a long gain. Jakes mobility promises to make an offensive line that is struggling to be adequate look a lot better once regular season play begins.
The team you see out the field on Saturday night is going to resemble the 2007 edition a lot more than the 2008 edition of the team. I just happen to think that there is also more overall talent in the 2009 squad than there was in 2007 even though the depth is about the same at most positions.
If Washington can put together some balance in the early going Jake is going to be a big factor in this one. If Jake can minimize the mistakes and make the most of his opportunities this one will be a lot closer than people think.
The Sark Factor
There is a very good reason that Steve Sarkisian has mentored a continuous string of Heisman contenders and that is he simply makes talented players better over time. USC of course always had a lot of talented players to work with but without quality coaching you don't end up being a first round draft choice.
As mentioned above I don't think any of us have seen what Jake Locker is capable of this year in practice because we have only seen one dimension of his game so far. When they give him back his wheels on Saturday and match that with improved accuracy he is going to impress.
Sark and his staff bring a lot more to the table offensively than the previous staff. They are used to thinking outside the box and making sure all the possible pieces are involved in their game plan. How many times in the previous four years was it obvious to all of us what Washington was going to run when they stepped up to the line of scrimmage?
I don't expect Sark to turn it all around one single season but I do expect this team to be a lot more entertaining, competitive, and much less predictable in 2009. I also don't expect to see that deer in the headlights look from the Washington head coach on the sideline anymore.
The EJ Factor
If there was one player Washington missed as much as Jake Locker last season it was EJ Savannah. EJ returns to be an anchor to an already strong linebacking corp. What Savannah gives Washington is a player that could start for almost any other team int he country and we don't have a lot of players like that.
Savannah is a playmaker on the other side of the ball who makes all who play with him better. Great players do that because they take the pressure off the rest of the team. No offense to Jon Gage but if you throw him in instead of EJ you lose approximately three quarters of a whole body on defense because EJ plays like one and a half players when he is on the field.
Nobody has to worry about covering up for EJ which means that plus effort he is capable of can be used to cover up some other deficiency the Huskies may face such as lack of speed and experience on the corner.
You can say the same thing about Daniel Teo Nesheim too. Daniel and EJ are all conference type performers who if free'd up to do their thing can wreak havoc with an opposing offense.
The Holt Factor
On the defensive side of the ball Washington has looked solid up front in the pre-season. The Huskies have the makings of a very good defensive line. If the promise shown by the interior players allows the DE's and LB's the freedom they need to make plays this team will surprise people.
The backfield has more experience and depth but still lacks overall speed compared to an LSU. The Huskies need to scheme and make adjustments to overcome this. Expect Washington to be very aggressive in it's defensive play calling. They are going to go after Jefferson all night and try to force him into mistakes.
The most important factor added to the 2009 defense is DC Nick Holt and his staff. Emotion is not going to be something these players are going to be lacking on Saturday night. Holt is going to have these kids sky high and ready to play. I think we can safely say the days if the Huskies coming out flat are behind us.
Holts first goal in 2009 is not to be the worst defense in the conference and the country. Washington was that bad last season even though WSU made noise that they were just as worthy for that distinction. I think Washington can climb back to a mid conference level as far as proficiency is concerned this year. Leadership is a big part of that climb out of the basement and Washington has the right guy in the leadership position.
More Game Week Notes
Practices for the general public have been closed for the rest of the season but the media, Tyee members, plus friends and family of the team are invited to watch on Monday thru Thursday. The Huskies will be practicing late this week to simulate the late start on Saturday night.
Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times hasn't made his prediction yet for Saturday's game but he thinks it will be a high scoring affair for both teams. bo makes a very good point when he says the wrapper hasn't been taken off Jake Locker yet in practice which i allude to above.
Former Husky WR DJ McCarthy returns to Husky Stadium on Saturday as a member of the LSU coaching staff. Dick Baird has a feature story on him over at Dawgman.
LSU comes in ranked as the #11 team in the country. Future UW opponents USC, Cal, Oregon, and Notre Dame are also rated in the top 25 to start the season.
 

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The more I read up on UW the more I think they may rise above expectations. But more than 4 W's seems like a stretch, big stretch. They may be a covering machine this year in the final analysis. Going 0-12 LY makes that a real possibility.
 

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