OT: so did we land on the moon or not?

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I remember watching that Fox special and it was fun to watch. I was surprised that they didn't use the cigarette smoking guy from X-Files to narrate it instead of FBI AD Walter Skinner.
 

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We have been to MARS and the MOON but not in a space shuttle as the Radiation from the Van Alan Belt would prohibit such an endeavor...The very idea of a hoax itself was put out by Tavistock and other think tanks who specialize in psychological Warfare...this is why the Moon Hoax is so mainstream today...

All culture is promoted from the TOP-down...not BOTTOM-up...including the "conspiracy theories"...The more important question that should be asked is If the Moon landing was indeed a hoax, why would they have allowed so much information exposing such a grotesque conspiracy to funnel on down to the public? The answer is simple, to hide technology that has been in use for an undetermined amount of time...the kind of technology that would allow human beings to travel the stars from point A to point B in a very short period of time....compared to the X amount of light years and or months required to make a trip to planet A or planet B...

We have to remember that NAZI propaganda was the best money could buy until the Rockefeller Cartel vis a vis the CFR created the Western Media Propaganda machine that we have become so accustom to today. After all it was Hitler himself who claimed the bigger the lie, the more people believe it...And it was also Hitler who once proclaimed..."How Fortunate For Us That the People do not think"

A great number of the NAZI scientists somehow managed to "escape" into the United States after the 2nd World War...and eventually established what we today refer to as the NASA Space Program...and in particular the Moon Program...Would you trust a group of psychopathic deviants with the exploration of Space, Technology, and its application in its relation to humanity? I certainly wouldn't....God only knows how many lies they have told since NASA's inception....It is not a question as to whether or not the Moon landing was a Hoax..as that is rhetorical...I want to know how is it they actual travel back and from the Moon and how long have they been doing it...I doubt I'l get even a sniff of an answer in my lifetime...
 

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We have been to MARS and the MOON but not in a space shuttle as the Radiation from the Van Alan Belt would prohibit such an endeavor...The very idea of hoax itself was put out by Tavistock and other think tanks who specialize in psychological Warfare...this is why the Moon Hoax is so mainstream today...

All culture is promoted from the TOP-down...not BOTTOM-up...including the "conspiracy theories"...The more important question that should be asked is If the Moon landing was indeed a hoax, why would they have allowed so much information exposing such a grotesque conspiracy to funnel on down to the public? The answer is simple, to hide technology that has been in use for an undetermined amount of time...the kind of technology that would allow human beings to travel the stars from point A to point B in a very short period of time....compared to the X amount of light years and or months required to make a trip to planet A or planet B...

We have to remember that NAZI propaganda was the best money could buy until the Rockefeller Cartel vis a vis the CFR created the Western Media Propaganda machine that we have become so accustom to today. After all it was Hitler himself who claimed the bigger the lie, the more people believe it...And it was also Hitler who once proclaimed..."How Fortunate For Us That the People do not think"

A great number of the NAZI scientists somehow managed to "escape" into the United States after the 2nd World War...and eventually established what we today refer to as the NASA Space Program...and in particular the Moon Program...Would you trust a group of psychopathic deviants with the exploration of Space, Technology, and its application in its relation to humanity? I certainly wouldn't....God only knows how many lies they have told since NASA's inception...

Loren, I like your answer best of all.

:toast:
 

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I personally don't think we did. At the risk of going CW, all I can say is that this here is my opinion on this here issue.
 

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wow im surprised a lot of sharp guys IMO dont think we landed on the moon.........who knows i may be wrong wouldn't be the first time today
 

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Here's 33 things that need to be answered!
<SMALL><BIG>1) Sceptics argue that the lack of stars on Moon photographs is acceptable, despite zero atmosphere to obscure the view. Yuri Gagarin, pronounced the stars to be "astonishingly brilliant". See the official NASA pictures above that I have reproduced that show 'stars' in the sky, as viewed from the lunar surface. And why exactly do you think there are hardly any stars visible on Apollo films taken from the Moon? The answers simple - Professional astronomers would quickly calculate that the configuration and distances of star formations were incorrect and so NASA had to remove them to make sure they could keep up the scam.</BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>2) The pure oxygen atmosphere in the module would have melted the Hasselblad's camera covering and produced poisonous gases. Why weren't the astronauts affected? </BIG></SMALL><SMALL> </SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>3) There should have been a substantial crater blasted out under the LM's 10,000 pound thrust rocket. Sceptics would have you believe that the engines only had the power to blow the dust from underneath the LM as it landed. If this is true, how did Armstrong create that famous boot print if all the dust had been blown away? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>4) Sceptics claim that you cannot produce a flame in a vacuum because of the lack of oxygen. So how come I have footage on this page showing a flame coming from the exhaust of an Apollo lander? (Obviously the sceptics are wrong or the footage shows the lander working in an atmosphere) </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>5) Footprints are the result of weight displacing air or moisture from between particles of dirt, dust, or sand. The astronauts left distinct footprints all over the place. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>6) The Apollo 11 TV pictures were lousy, yet the broadcast quality magically became fine on the five subsequent missions. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>7) Why in most Apollo photos, is there a clear line of definition between the rough foreground and the smooth background?</BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>8) Why did so many NASA Moonscape photos have non parallel shadows? sceptics will tell you because there is two sources of light on the Moon - the Sun and the Earth... That maybe the case, but the shadows would still fall in the same direction, not two or three different angles and Earth shine would have no effect during the bright lunar day (the time at which the Apollo was on the Moon). </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>9) Why did one of the stage prop rocks have a capital "C" on it and a 'C' on the ground in front of it? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>10) How did the fibreglass whip antenna on the Gemini 6A capsule survive the tremendous heat of atmospheric re-entry? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>11) In Ron Howard's 1995 science fiction movie, Apollo 13, the astronauts lose electrical power and begin worrying about freezing to death. In reality, of course, the relentless bombardment of the Sun's rays would rapidly have overheated the vehicle to lethal temperatures with no atmosphere into which to dump the heat build up. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>12) Who would dare risk using the LM on the Moon when a simulated Moon landing was never tested? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>13) Instead of being able to jump at least ten feet high in "one sixth" gravity, the highest jump was about nineteen inches. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>14) Even though slow motion photography was able to give a fairly convincing appearance of very low gravity, it could not disguise the fact that the astronauts travelled no further between steps than they would have on Earth. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>15) If the Rover buggy had actually been moving in one-sixth gravity, then it would have required a twenty foot width in order not to have flipped over on nearly every turn. The Rover had the same width as ordinary small cars. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>16) An astrophysicist who has worked for NASA writes that it takes two meters of shielding to protect against medium solar flares and that heavy ones give out tens of thousands of rem in a few hours. Russian scientists calculated in 1959 that astronauts needed a shield of 4 feet of lead to protect them on the Moons surface. Why didn't the astronauts on Apollo 14 and 16 die after exposure to this immense amount of radiation? And why are NASA only starting a project now to test the lunar radiation levels and what their effects would be on the human body if they have sent 12 men there already?</BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>17) The fabric space suits had a crotch to shoulder zipper. There should have been fast leakage of air since even a pinhole deflates a tyre in short order. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>18) The astronauts in these "pressurized" suits were easily able to bend their fingers, wrists, elbows, and knees at 5.2 p.s.i. and yet a boxer's 4 p.s.i. speed bag is virtually unbendable. The guys would have looked like balloon men if the suits had actually been pressurized. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>19) How did the astronauts leave the LEM? In the documentary 'Paper Moon' The host measures a replica of the LEM at The Space Centre in Houston, what he finds is that the 'official' measurements released by NASA are bogus and that the astronauts could not have got out of the LEM.</BIG></SMALL>
<BIG><SMALL>20) The water sourced</SMALL></BIG><SMALL><BIG> air conditioner backpacks should have produced frequent explosive vapour discharges. They never did. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>21) During the Apollo 14 flag setup ceremony, the flag would not stop fluttering. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>22) With more than a two second signal transmission round trip, how did a camera pan upward to track the departure of the Apollo 16 LEM? Gus Grissom, before he got burned alive in the Apollo I disaster </BIG></SMALL>A few minutes before he was burned to death in the Apollo I tragedy, Gus Grissom said, 'Hey, you guys in the control center, get with it. You expect me to go to the moon and you can't even maintain telephonic communications over three miles.' This statement says a lot about what Grissom thought about NASA's progress in the great space race.
<SMALL><BIG>23) Why did NASA's administrator resign just days before the first Apollo mission? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>24) NASA launched the TETR-A satellite just months before the first lunar mission. The proclaimed purpose was to simulate transmissions coming from the moon so that the Houston ground crews (all those employees sitting behind computer screens at Mission Control) could "rehearse" the first moon landing. In other words, though NASA claimed that the satellite crashed shortly before the first lunar mission (a misinformation lie), its real purpose was to relay voice, fuel consumption, altitude, and telemetry data as if the transmissions were coming from an Apollo spacecraft as it neared the moon. Very few NASA employees knew the truth because they believed that the computer and television data they were receiving was the genuine article. Merely a hundred or so knew what was really going on; not tens of thousands as it might first appear. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>25) In 1998, the Space Shuttle flew to one of its highest altitudes ever, three hundred and fifty miles, hundreds of miles below merely the beginning of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Inside of their shielding, superior to that which the Apollo astronauts possessed, the shuttle astronauts reported being able to "see" the radiation with their eyes closed penetrating their shielding as well as the retinas of their closed eyes. For a dental x-ray on Earth which lasts 1/100th of a second we wear a 1/4 inch lead vest. Imagine what it would be like to endure several hours of radiation that you can see with your eyes closed from hundreds of miles away with 1/8 of an inch of aluminium shielding! </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>26) The Apollo 1 fire of January 27, 1967, killed what would have been the first crew to walk on the Moon just days after the commander, Gus Grissom, held an unapproved press conference complaining that they were at least ten years, not two, from reaching the Moon. The dead man's own son, who is a seasoned pilot himself, has in his possession forensic evidence personally retrieved from the charred spacecraft (that the government has tried to destroy on two or more occasions). Gus Grissom was obviously trying to make a big statement as he placed a lemon in the window of the Apollo I spacecraft as it sat ready for launch!</BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>27) CNN issued the following report, "The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed (like when they supposedly went through them thirty years ago to reach the Moon.) The phenomenon known as the 'Van Allen Belts' can spawn (newly discovered) 'Killer Electrons' that can dramatically affect the astronauts' health." </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>28) In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>29) If debris from the Apollo missions was left on the Moon, then it would be visible today through a powerful telescope, however no such debris can be seen. The Clementine probe that recently mapped the Moons surface failed to show any Apollo artefacts left by Man during the missions. Where did the Moon Buggy and base of the LM go? </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG> 30) In the year 2005 NASA does not have the technology to land any man, or woman on the Moon, and return them safely to Earth. </BIG></SMALL>
<SMALL><BIG>31) Film evidence has recently been uncovered of a mis-labelled, unedited, behind-the-scenes video film, showing the crew of Apollo 11 staging part of their photography. The film evidence is shown in the video "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon!". and appears above in the 'Why Did Apollo 11 Astronauts Lie About Being In Deep Space?' section.</BIG></SMALL>
32) Why did the blueprints and plans for the Lunar Module and Moon Buggy get destroyed if this was one of History's greatest accomplishments?<BIG></BIG>
33) Why did NASA need to airbrush out anomalies from lunar footage of the Moon if they have nothing to hide?<BIG></BIG>
 

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wow im surprised a lot of sharp guys IMO dont think we landed on the moon.........who knows i may be wrong wouldn't be the first time today

Wow, I'm surprised you would slot LOREN as a "sharp guy".

Who knows.."I" might be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, but on this one I'm pretty damn sure.

d1g1t
 

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Wow, I'm surprised you would slot LOREN as a "sharp guy".

Who knows.."I" might be wrong...wouldn't be the first time, but on this one I'm pretty damn sure.

d1g1t
no i meant QL and slim and BFS..........although they all gamble so how smart are they
 

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I just have to wonder do you moon doubters or the conspiracy guys over at the poly fourm play board games or poker online?

I'm not much of a conspiracy person but those games are way too much a leap in faith for me.
 

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Similiar arguments have been made about the existence of the Halocaust. As time passes and concentration camp survivors become more scarce, they make their arguments louder by challenging the validity of its aging documentation. The problem is that the vast majority of those who chose to deny it usually have a much larger hidden agenda.

I submit that the same applies to the moon landings. There are a lot of people who refuse to give the United States credit for its accomplishments because bashing it has become the cool thing to do.

:bigfinger
 

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Similiar arguments have been made about the existence of the Halocaust. As time passes and concentration camp survivors become more scarce, they make their arguments louder by challenging the validity of its aging documentation. The problem is that the vast majority of those who chose to deny it usually have a much larger hidden agenda.

I submit that the same applies to the moon landings. There are a lot of people who refuse to give the United States credit for its accomplishments because bashing it has become the cool thing to do.

:bigfinger

You do realize of course that the perpetrators of the holocaust are now in charge of NASA?

And why do you feel the need to give the United States Credit? The United States is a Corporation owned by Foreign Creditors...NASA was not founded by U.S. Citizens...The same people who told Jews they were going to work in labor camps are the same people who told you human beings made of flesh and blood can withstand the kind of Radiation that can make you see stars with your eyes closed....

:monsters-

Comical....
 

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You do realize of course that the perpetrators of the holocaust are now in charge of NASA?

And why do you feel the need to give the United States Credit? The United States is a Corporation owned by Foreign Creditors...NASA was not founded by U.S. Citizens...The same people who told Jews they were going to work in labor camps are the same people who told you human beings made of flesh and blood can withstand the kind of Radiation that can make you see stars with your eyes closed....

:monsters-

Comical....
:lolBIG: USA is just a bankrupt corporation, NASA is run by Nazis - I believe you just proved my point. You obviously dislike America and that's why you choose to believe such an ubsurdity.
 

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No way we ever landed six times on the moon. It really ought to be obvious that it is simply a trick played on the World.


Congrats to those who have exposed this hoax.


:toast:


VVV
 

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:lolBIG: USA is just a bankrupt corporation, NASA is run by Nazis - I believe you just proved my point. You obviously dislike America and that's why you choose to believe such an ubsurdity.

Yes...America is bankrupt...The Corporation is being broken up...you are a citizen or an employee of that Corporation...you are about to be out of a job...you represent America...I do not hate you..I don't dislike America...I dislike its creditors, shareholders and stock owners who are about to put a lot of people out on their collective asses....
 

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:lolBIG: USA is just a bankrupt corporation, NASA is run by Nazis - I believe you just proved my point. You obviously dislike America and that's why you choose to believe such an ubsurdity.

A cursory review of LOREN's various suspicions and claims going back the past couple years demonstrates that one day he touts a conspiracy and then a few weeks or months later, he poses the exact opposite wackyness.

If he promises to keep making a sincere effort to spot winning sports bets, the rest of us have agreed to forgive his playing most days with about 49 or less cards in his mental deck.
 

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No way we ever landed six times on the moon. It really ought to be obvious that it is simply a trick played on the World.


Congrats to those who have exposed this hoax.


:toast:


VVV

WHEW! That was a close one! To think we were just about to approve a new series of public school textbooks promoting this MegaHoax

d1g1t
 

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