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The problem is money, the FIFA wants the same rules in every country. Europa, Northern America and most South american nations/teams can easily afford the technology needed for instant replays, but alot of african teams/nations and Asian teams can't afford a system like that.

that is a horrendously lame excuse. So instead of getting as many calls correct as possible they are concerned about 4th division Ghanaian leagues being on par with Euros, World Cups and the Premiership? Convenient excuse for those two luddites Blatter and Platini.

Back to the offside question, what is the rule re players off the pitch?
 

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Here's the new rule:

11.11 DEFENDER LEGALLY OFF THE FIELD OF PLAY
A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position. Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position.



There was an Italian defender who went out of bounds, behind the goal line, beside the goal on the initial thrust. Thus keeping any other Holland player onside.

Italy was totally out played the whole game. If you blame one goal being scored against on that sagging performance you watched the game with rose coloured glasses. There is not doubt in mind Holland would have prevailed even if that goal was disallowed.


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Here's the new rule:

11.11 DEFENDER LEGALLY OFF THE FIELD OF PLAY
A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position. Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position.



There was an Italian defender who went out of bounds, behind the goal line, beside the goal on the initial thrust. Thus keeping any other Holland player onside.

Italy was totally out played the whole game. If you blame one goal being scored against on that sagging performance you watched the game with rose coloured glasses. There is not doubt in mind Holland would have prevailed even if that goal was disallowed.


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not sure anyone is blaming that call, I know I'm not. I just want a correct answer to the play since the only two times I have seen it it has bene called in opposing manner. And now there is still conflicting info.
 

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Here's the new rule:

11.11 DEFENDER LEGALLY OFF THE FIELD OF PLAY
A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position. Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position.



There was an Italian defender who went out of bounds, behind the goal line, beside the goal on the initial thrust. Thus keeping any other Holland player onside.

Italy was totally out played the whole game. If you blame one goal being scored against on that sagging performance you watched the game with rose coloured glasses. There is not doubt in mind Holland would have prevailed even if that goal was disallowed.


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BTWm, where is that from?
 

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Yeah, Congrats. If you are happy winning with an offside goal, so be it!!!

:lolBIG::lolBIG::lolBIG:


Now you sound like the guys in the hockey forum. I did not watch the entire game but from what I saw--NED looked good and Italy looked slower--seems to me they just got OUTPLAYED--hard to take but WAY to go DUTCH
 

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i cant stop laughing at the dude saying euro is a warmup for the world cup....i think italy is the living proof of how tougher the euro is to win....4 world cups to 1 euro....because you dont get cupcake nations like ghana, canada, costa rica, ecuador, paraguay, australia, togo, angola, tunisia, iran, saudi arabia, trinidad and tobago and many others participating......every single match is a tough match and pretty much a must win in the euro.
 

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The right call was made. The rules say that was not offside, whether you would like to believe so or not. I'm not a fan of adding technology to the game of soccer, or the game of baseball. Bad calls are very rare, and refereeing is part of the game in my eyes. In this case going to instant replay wouldn't of changed a thing.

Also like someone said, if Ruud dove like so many others do in soccer he would have had a PK very early in the game. This play didn't cost Italy the game. The fact that they were thoroughly out-played for most the game cost them the game.
 

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Unfortunately, maybe too many people don't care about the Euro Cup.

I mean most people consider it a prep for the World Cup anyways.

The Euro Cup is HUGE. It is basically the World Cup minus Brazil and Argentina. There was a lot of hype around this tourney and I'm sure stations like TSN have no complaints about their ratings. It's big even where I live in Canada, and this country doesn't support soccer anywhere close to the levels that the Europeans do, or South Americans.
 

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The right call was made. The rules say that was not offside, whether you would like to believe so or not. I'm not a fan of adding technology to the game of soccer, or the game of baseball. Bad calls are very rare, and refereeing is part of the game in my eyes. In this case going to instant replay wouldn't of changed a thing.

Also like someone said, if Ruud dove like so many others do in soccer he would have had a PK very early in the game. This play didn't cost Italy the game. The fact that they were thoroughly out-played for most the game cost them the game.

Bad calls are not rare in soccer, I would guesstimate that something along the lines of 75% of games have goals incorrectly called on or off (I still don't have an undisputed answer on this one, but that isn't the point) that could easily be remedied. Watch games, there are horrible calls in almost every game that should have been goals or lead to good scoring opportunities.

In fact, RVP was on 1 v 1 against Buffon in this game from close to midfield and was incorrectly called off. Didn't matter today, but soccer more than any other sport needs it due to the nature of the offside rule and the low scoring/few good opportunities.
 
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Netherlands' controversial first goal in Monday's 3-0 Group C victory over world champions Italy at Euro 2008 was correctly awarded despite many observers believing it was offside, organisers UEFA said on Tuesday. UEFA general secretary David Taylor told a news conference the officials correctly interpreted Law 11 which relates to offside when Ruud van Nistelrooy scored after 26 minutes
 

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Netherlands' controversial first goal in Monday's 3-0 Group C victory over world champions Italy at Euro 2008 was correctly awarded despite many observers believing it was offside, organisers UEFA said on Tuesday. UEFA general secretary David Taylor told a news conference the officials correctly interpreted Law 11 which relates to offside when Ruud van Nistelrooy scored after 26 minutes

Well then ESPN analysts have no clue. They swore it was offsides because the defender OB was not deliberately out.
 

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have the espn analysts ever had a clue?

out of 100s of actual players they couldve hired for analysis they hire that girl and that old geezer...gimme a break
 

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have the espn analysts ever had a clue?

out of 100s of actual players they couldve hired for analysis they hire that girl and that old geezer...gimme a break

Julie Foudy is absolutely HORRENDOUS. Before the first game they asked her to pick a player to "break out" and she answered Thierry Henry. Seriously??????????? WTF, where have you been for the past 10 years? "break out", a guy with 100 caps, a world cup winner, world cup finalist, Euro winner and the all time leading French scorer is going to "break out" during this tournament?????
 

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UEFA and FIFA are right, the mass is wrong. Leave the debate to the experts and professionals.
 

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