I remember what Clemens used to look like, he doesnt even remotely look like he did at 35, much less 25. Ill give him the benefit of the doubt because anyone can have a bad start.
but 89 mph fastball and no command whatsoever of the split finger is what I saw. he used to throw 5 pitches and 95 mph on the fastball. once he got 2 strikes, fastball near the top of the zone or the fastball that looked like a fastball ( splitter) which dove from the top of the zone nearly into the dirt were the strikeout pitches.
he doesnt have either anymore from the looks of it. he should have retired.
but 89 mph fastball and no command whatsoever of the split finger is what I saw. he used to throw 5 pitches and 95 mph on the fastball. once he got 2 strikes, fastball near the top of the zone or the fastball that looked like a fastball ( splitter) which dove from the top of the zone nearly into the dirt were the strikeout pitches.
he doesnt have either anymore from the looks of it. he should have retired.
This is a body of work, what have you done for me lately kind of thing:
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Guys like Abreu and Giambi need a fire lit under their ass, and Torre at this stage of his life is not the guy to do it. Understand, I don't think ANYTHING will work, but I don't know why Torre wasn't cut loose after LAST season...
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Guys like Abreu and Giambi need a fire lit under their ass, and Torre at this stage of his life is not the guy to do it. Understand, I don't think ANYTHING will work, but I don't know why Torre wasn't cut loose after LAST season...
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TB- Watcha talkin' about Willis?
I am a White Sox (devil ray supporter as well like FH) fan who likes to intelligently discuss baseball. I am not happy with my teams performance at all. I even stated that a division title followed by a Championship this year would be very special to those real BOSOX fans. I even think Okajima would be a fine ROY candidate as well. But will be nowhere whatsoever in any MVP or CY young talk. I also really like being me a lot, I have a nice little life.
I am a White Sox (devil ray supporter as well like FH) fan who likes to intelligently discuss baseball. I am not happy with my teams performance at all. I even stated that a division title followed by a Championship this year would be very special to those real BOSOX fans. I even think Okajima would be a fine ROY candidate as well. But will be nowhere whatsoever in any MVP or CY young talk. I also really like being me a lot, I have a nice little life.
You hopped in my thread with cracks about how many division titles have we won (not the topic) and other wisecracks too not on topic. You hop in the yankess thread and also throw some more digs. Unnecessary. No reason to hate. You are not making a point. You are starting trouble nad throwing digs. Big difference.
Very well TB.
I'll stick to the points. I have even been to Fenway and have never seen such intelligent and courtious fans anywhere (been to over a dozen parks). Trying to stay objective you would have had many many positive (my positive replies as well) replies to a thread with another title and not a 100% ridiculous one. The Yanks or DRAYS could really use a guy like hime with their middle relief problems.
I'll stick to the points. I have even been to Fenway and have never seen such intelligent and courtious fans anywhere (been to over a dozen parks). Trying to stay objective you would have had many many positive (my positive replies as well) replies to a thread with another title and not a 100% ridiculous one. The Yanks or DRAYS could really use a guy like hime with their middle relief problems.
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The worst commentary of all time!
So funny, I had to watch it twice.
Who the heck is that yelling??!
The worst commentary of all time!
So funny, I had to watch it twice.
Who the heck is that yelling??!
