There are still some goofy American laws --- in Michigan, adultery is a felony (up to 4 years in prison, and $5k fine). Except for married couples, sex is banned in Virginia. In Arizona, donkeys can't sleep in bathtubs.
Nobody complains when these laws/rules aren't enforced.
I realize that sports are supposed to be pure, and the rules are supposed to be absolute (ummmm, other than soccer & basketball) --- but really, does anybody think Detroit deserved to get that ball at the 1-yard line? Maybe the ref blew the call (or maybe it was a non-call), but I think we got the "fair" result. Calvin Johnson fumbled, game over.
Did Wright overtly push the ball? Sure. But he just as easily could have recovered the ball, or "accidentally" knocked the ball thru the end-zone. Was there a Detroit player within 5-feet of the ball?
Which is why the rule is terrible in the first place --- how are the refs supposed to determine intent? Think about all the defensive players who *try* to intercept a pass, and flat-out bungle it. If defensive players can't catch a ball thrown directly to them, how can you assume they're supposed to cleanly field a bouncing football?
Nobody complains when these laws/rules aren't enforced.
I realize that sports are supposed to be pure, and the rules are supposed to be absolute (ummmm, other than soccer & basketball) --- but really, does anybody think Detroit deserved to get that ball at the 1-yard line? Maybe the ref blew the call (or maybe it was a non-call), but I think we got the "fair" result. Calvin Johnson fumbled, game over.
Did Wright overtly push the ball? Sure. But he just as easily could have recovered the ball, or "accidentally" knocked the ball thru the end-zone. Was there a Detroit player within 5-feet of the ball?
Which is why the rule is terrible in the first place --- how are the refs supposed to determine intent? Think about all the defensive players who *try* to intercept a pass, and flat-out bungle it. If defensive players can't catch a ball thrown directly to them, how can you assume they're supposed to cleanly field a bouncing football?
Also, on every fumble (that isn't immediately a pile-on, with the ball stuck @ bottom) --- some players are going for the legit recovery......but you see other players who are simply trying to bat the ball, knock the ball, punch the ball, etc. They're simply trying to keep the ball alive (or keep it away from the other team).
By the book, did the ref misinterpret the fumble & end-zone rule? Yes.
But this narrative (greatly pushed by ESPN) about "Detroit got screwed on Monday night!" --- please, Detroit screwed themselves. You shouldn't expect to get bailed-out by an obscure technicality.
By the book, did the ref misinterpret the fumble & end-zone rule? Yes.
But this narrative (greatly pushed by ESPN) about "Detroit got screwed on Monday night!" --- please, Detroit screwed themselves. You shouldn't expect to get bailed-out by an obscure technicality.
Now they are saying its a bad rule and next season they are going to get rid of this rule.
So that will make 2 rules that Calvin Johnson gets credit for changing. It was his play that caused the have possession through the catch rule
So that will make 2 rules that Calvin Johnson gets credit for changing. It was his play that caused the have possession through the catch rule
Hey, maybe he made the wrong call but jesus, if you're looking for a stupid penalty like that to help you win in the NFL, you aren't going to win many games.
Bottom line, don't fumble the ball. That's why they pay CJ all that money. The best D in the NFL made the play it had to make. Quit crying about some stupid batted ball. If Wright falls on it, nobody says another word about it.
Bottom line, don't fumble the ball. That's why they pay CJ all that money. The best D in the NFL made the play it had to make. Quit crying about some stupid batted ball. If Wright falls on it, nobody says another word about it.
Didn't Kam punch the ball from Calvin Johnson? Don't defensive players frequently try to punch the ball away?
According to this, punching is against the rules.
I think what everybody learned last night (the NFL, ESPN, football fans) --- the NFL has some confusing language with punched/batted balls, and they should probably clean-up the rules. Otherwise, you're going to have confused refs, and confused fans. One man's punch is another man's legal fumble.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands
A player may not bat or punch:
(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.
(b) A ball in player possession.
Note: If there is any question as to whether a defender is stripping or batting a ball in player possession, the official(s) will rule the action as a legal act (stripping the ball).
Exception: A forward or backward pass may be batted, tipped, or deflected in any direction at any time by either the offense or the defense.
Note: A pass in flight that is controlled or caught may only be thrown backward, if it is thrown forward it is considered an illegal bat.
No player may deliberately kick any ball except as a punt, dropkick, or placekick.
According to this, punching is against the rules.
I think what everybody learned last night (the NFL, ESPN, football fans) --- the NFL has some confusing language with punched/batted balls, and they should probably clean-up the rules. Otherwise, you're going to have confused refs, and confused fans. One man's punch is another man's legal fumble.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands
A player may not bat or punch:
(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.
(b) A ball in player possession.
Note: If there is any question as to whether a defender is stripping or batting a ball in player possession, the official(s) will rule the action as a legal act (stripping the ball).
Exception: A forward or backward pass may be batted, tipped, or deflected in any direction at any time by either the offense or the defense.
Note: A pass in flight that is controlled or caught may only be thrown backward, if it is thrown forward it is considered an illegal bat.
No player may deliberately kick any ball except as a punt, dropkick, or placekick.
I'm the real asshole in all this.. Had Seattle minus the pts for game, and had a gut feeling detroit was going to come back and bet them moneyline during in game late 4q.hno:
No, the exact opposite. Stafford away vs. a "good team" then to observe the degree to which they were penetrating, all over Wilson and adjust your play? IMO opinion you played it exactly right, all the way through. Laying DD (unless you got -9.5) I'll accept and agree with anyone who wants to say that was foolish, counter with DET's road record under Stafford. Insanely weird shit happened. You should have cashed that ML, Great Play, Bold Play. Should have cashed. Kam Chancellor is a hell of a great player...he made a spectacular play.
I'm luckier then the Seahawks last night.Am I the only one who admits I had a MOTO play Seattle ML,laying -5100 to win a dime?Yeah I had NewEngland in the SuperBowl last Feb,but I also had GreenBayML in that MNF @Seattle with the Replacements.This place likes you to keep records on posted plays so I'm (2-1) on f*cked-up Plays vs Seattle. Welcome to the Site...
I don't think the law against Donkeys sleeping in bathtubs is that goofy really. Donkeys are way too rambunctious to have even anywhere in a bathroom at all, stuff WILL get damaged and even destroyed plus they literally eat every single shred of toilet paper IN the bathroom and chew up all the shampoo bottles and even manage to somehow destroy the toilet brush. You've obviously never been foolish enough to let a Donkey sleep in your bathtub or...drunk enough to permit that but if you had tried it you'd see the good sense behind this law and the absolute need for it.
I think the issue is it evenly called across the board.
The Steelers got screwed out of a game vs GB a couple of years ago because of a illegally batted ball after a blocked FG.
Do you think the Cowboys should have got the win over Miami on Turkey Day? The game was over if Leon Lett just walks off the field but he did not know the rules and because he touched the ball on a technicality the Cowboys lost the game.
Again, if you call it sometimes you have to call it all the time especially if it is a rule.
The rule will not go away. It results in a change of possession and the ball on the 20 so the O should have an equal chance to recover the ball in the endzone. Otherwise every D player will just kick or hit any loose ball out of the endzone and it is their ball on the 20 yard line.
Also, there is no guarantee a LB can just pick a ball off of a turf field and cradle it. Theo Riddick was right behind Wright. Wright could have jacked up the recovery and the ball could have taken a funny bounce. Stranger things have happened in the NFL.
You're missing the point of my post. I get it, batting the ball is a rule. But, if I'm Detroit, I wouldn't be pissed off because I lost based on the ref failing to make that stupid call (they lost because they suck). I'd be pissed because my best player fumbled the ball going into the endzone for the potential game winning TD.
Nope.
If the roles were reversed last night I'd be thanking my lucky stars A) Detroit kept Seattle in the game and B) I actually had a chance to win the game at the end.
Then, I'd be pissed my WR and highest-paid player can't hold onto the damn ball. Failing to call the batting of the ball didn't lose the game for Detroit.
I'm a realistic Seattle fan HC. The offensive line is abysmal and we all knew it going in. That's what happens when you pay a franchise QB and trade your pro bowl C. They have two converted DL on the OL and we expect them to be good this early?
But, I'm being optimistic about it. Last year they were 3-3 and went on a roll. If they fix this offensive line mess, they have all the pieces again to go to the big one. Remember, they were up late in the 3Q at GB against the best QB in the game.
Think they are going to continue to improve. The D, once again, is amazing though.
