ouch, 10-15 week, 40%
Just awful, no way to cover it up. Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
He went 1-1, 1-1, 2-2 the first 3 days of the week and then the 0-4 started a chase it seems. He then went 3-3, 2-2, and finally 1-2 on Sunday with the big loss on FSU.
rough week but i expect he will bounce back
Just awful, no way to cover it up. Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
He went 1-1, 1-1, 2-2 the first 3 days of the week and then the 0-4 started a chase it seems. He then went 3-3, 2-2, and finally 1-2 on Sunday with the big loss on FSU.
rough week but i expect he will bounce back
That's exactly how touts present their results. Someone told it here already. Who cares if over last two weekends he lost 5 units or gained 88 units. Who cares if he won 12 out of 13 weekends in bball.
The only thing that matters is overall result - long term. That is what most of touts ignore just because they have to sell their service. So much better than posting some minus or null result in units is to scream "5 winners in row!" or "2 winning months in college basketball!" or "last 2 weekend +50 units". This is a bit misleading, ain't it? Like (just exampleú if he won lets say 10 weeks in row for +70 units and then lost badly in week 11 for -68 units. So he is +2 units, which is nothing special, but he can advertise 10 out of 11 winning weeks. But does it give you more money? It may sound great and confident, but your bankroll would be all the same.
I used to follow him when he posted for free and he had been really on fire then. But then they began to treat negative posts on their home forum with deletes and everytime someone tried to post the actual record, it was deleted and that someone banned. Honesty, huh? lol
I don't care, really, but regret to people paying for such "services".
hno:That's exactly how touts present their results. Someone told it here already. Who cares if over last two weekends he lost 5 units or gained 88 units. Who cares if he won 12 out of 13 weekends in bball.
The only thing that matters is overall result - long term. That is what most of touts ignore just because they have to sell their service. So much better than posting some minus or null result in units is to scream "5 winners in row!" or "2 winning months in college basketball!" or "last 2 weekend +50 units". This is a bit misleading, ain't it? Like (just exampleú if he won lets say 10 weeks in row for +70 units and then lost badly in week 11 for -68 units. So he is +2 units, which is nothing special, but he can advertise 10 out of 11 winning weeks. But does it give you more money? It may sound great and confident, but your bankroll would be all the same.
I used to follow him when he posted for free and he had been really on fire then. But then they began to treat negative posts on their home forum with deletes and everytime someone tried to post the actual record, it was deleted and that someone banned. Honesty, huh? lol
I don't care, really, but regret to people paying for such "services".
Now is an easy time to kick someone when he is on a losing streak, and I hate seeing it but sports service's prey on this type of thinking when they are out getting new clients. As new clients are usually ones that have been losing and looking for a savior of sorts. So they deserve the bashing when it's their time, and IC is no different.
I've also got issues with how a service goes about posting winning weeks instead of actual win-loses & untis won or loss...Who really cares about weeks, and it's a DEAD GIVEAWAY as to how the capper really is doing if you think about for a mintue. Any capper that is having winning season will post their W-L records, because that's the biggest selling point of ALL the hype's they can put out there.
The one's, and there are a lot out there (Not just IndianCowboy) that post winning weeks instead of overall's are very much more likely to be down for the season. CBB sarted November 10th, 2008, and NBA a couple weeks before that. Ask any of them how they've done since the start of the season, and you'll more than likely get the run-around, and not true numbers.
The ones that are winning 54% or higher will be more than happy to tell you how it's going.
SSC
when he was on covers for free he actually was doing real good but ever since he deleted those posts from people complaining on his site he took a beating. I remember all the stuff helmut would say about this guy and he turned out the same way .helmut is 50 percent capper after first of the yr going back every yr . Its a known proven fact
Well the Thunder win outright. Pump I don't know what you mean saying about "deleting posts". Less than friendly comments were said about him on his thread even today and they are still there. He responded professionally to them. I never see anything deleted there. I see all of these new posters on the thread when he lost last week but never saw them before when he had won the previous months. I'm just calling it how I see it. If you have problems with this guy than don't visit the thread. If you have his plays then post them here and I will do the same. All this side commentary is trivial to me. Just give the plays if you have them. I don't know much abuot Helmut to comment about him but do like his write-ups.
im talking about on HIS site when anyone would post something he didnt like it was automatically deleted thats all i said.As far as touts go i dont trust most except for RAS and other than that i dont care about any thing related to touts except for to warn ppl of them if i am familiar with their bullsh t they do ..gl buddy
I'm talking about his site too. Check it out. Less than friendly comments on March 16th' posts on his site, nothing deleted and always an answer back. I've vented my frustration there before and so has Britton and other guys, again, nothing deleted and he always replies back in a good manner. I agree many touts are bad, but IC is not as bad and different in many ways.
He's got:
4* 8:30 NBA Play. (either detroit or the bulls I'm thinking)
4* Kent State vs. Oakland (I guess he is on the dog in Kent?)
I'll buy it if it's not up this afternoon.
Handicapper: IndianCowboy
Sport: NBA Basketball
Game: Boston Celtics @ Chicago Bulls - Tuesday March 17, 2009 8:35 pm
Pick: 4 unit(s) ATS: Chicago Bulls +2 (-110) (Play of the Day)
4 Unit Play. #556. Take the Chicago Bulls +2 over the Boston Celtics (Tuesday @ 8:30pm). I'm gald we were able to cash with the Thunder +5 outright over the Spurs last night. Let's do the same with another outright winner with the Bulls tonight over the Celtics. If you can, wait until later this afternoon to see if you can get a better price on this game as 71% of the public likes the Celtics on the road here coming off a loss. But, the Celtics are banged up and they are - let's face it - a mediocre team without Garnett. Yes, the Celtics are medicore without Garnett. On top of that, they do not have Big Baby's body tonight either as he is out as well. Yes, the Celtics have Allen (who went 2/11 yesterday) and Pierce who went 4/15 from the field yesterday. This team just lost to the Bucks on the road as 6 point chalk and now they are laying 2 to the Chicago Bulls who are turning their season around? The Bulls have run through the Hornets at home winning by 18, have revenge coming into this game, beat the Bucks, Golden State and Houston all at home. The Bulls, unlike the Celtics are healthy. This team has Miami grad John Salmons, Rose, Gordon, rebounding machine Noah, Tyrus Thomas, depth with Tim Thomas, Brad Miller and Kirk. This team has size, length and great guard play. The Celtics have very little size to bang around with the likes of K. Thomas, T. Thomas, Brad Miller and Noah today and the bigs will have a big impact on this game. I see the Bulls going to the line often and winning this game likely outright today despite the C's on a bounce-back. After all, remember, the C's lost back to back games to the Magic and Heat just recently. The Bulls have covered their last 6-0 ATS at home recently and 4-1 ATS as underdogs of late as well. The Celtics are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 as favorites and 0-4 ATS in their last 4 road games overall
Sport: NBA Basketball
Game: Boston Celtics @ Chicago Bulls - Tuesday March 17, 2009 8:35 pm
Pick: 4 unit(s) ATS: Chicago Bulls +2 (-110) (Play of the Day)
4 Unit Play. #556. Take the Chicago Bulls +2 over the Boston Celtics (Tuesday @ 8:30pm). I'm gald we were able to cash with the Thunder +5 outright over the Spurs last night. Let's do the same with another outright winner with the Bulls tonight over the Celtics. If you can, wait until later this afternoon to see if you can get a better price on this game as 71% of the public likes the Celtics on the road here coming off a loss. But, the Celtics are banged up and they are - let's face it - a mediocre team without Garnett. Yes, the Celtics are medicore without Garnett. On top of that, they do not have Big Baby's body tonight either as he is out as well. Yes, the Celtics have Allen (who went 2/11 yesterday) and Pierce who went 4/15 from the field yesterday. This team just lost to the Bucks on the road as 6 point chalk and now they are laying 2 to the Chicago Bulls who are turning their season around? The Bulls have run through the Hornets at home winning by 18, have revenge coming into this game, beat the Bucks, Golden State and Houston all at home. The Bulls, unlike the Celtics are healthy. This team has Miami grad John Salmons, Rose, Gordon, rebounding machine Noah, Tyrus Thomas, depth with Tim Thomas, Brad Miller and Kirk. This team has size, length and great guard play. The Celtics have very little size to bang around with the likes of K. Thomas, T. Thomas, Brad Miller and Noah today and the bigs will have a big impact on this game. I see the Bulls going to the line often and winning this game likely outright today despite the C's on a bounce-back. After all, remember, the C's lost back to back games to the Magic and Heat just recently. The Bulls have covered their last 6-0 ATS at home recently and 4-1 ATS as underdogs of late as well. The Celtics are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 as favorites and 0-4 ATS in their last 4 road games overall
Handicapper: IndianCowboy
Sport: College Basketball
Game: Kent State Golden Flashes @ Oakland Golden Grizzlies - Tuesday March 17, 2009 7:00 pm
Pick: 4 unit(s) ATS: Oakland Golden Grizzlies -4 (-110) (Play of the Day)
4 Unit Play. #522. Take Oakland -4 over Kent State (Tuesday @ 7pm est). If you are looking for some solid dogs today who can win outright and more importantly cover, as those are my favorite plays, take a long look at Northeastern at Wyoming (you can read my research on my page why), or UAB on the road at Notre Dame as the public likely gets buried there, or even UNLV catching 7 at Kentucky as this is the same Rebel team that won at BYU and at Louisville - incredibly tough to do. Having said that, let's take Oakland today. Oakland might be one of the hottest teams in the country that no one is talking about coming into this game. Remember, they played a great game againts North Dakota State and frankly should have won that game. If they win that game, they woudl be dancing but simply collapsed with a double-digit lead as North Dakota State essentially won on a buzzer beater. Oakland has been dominant at home even beating Oral Roberts by double-digits earlier this year. Oakland even lost to Cleveland State, the Champs of their respective conference by 3 on the road. Remember, Cleveland State beat Butler on the road to win their conference championship. Kent State has been a bit weak on the road this year losing to the likes of Ohio, Buffalo, Akron, losing to Cleveland State by nearly 26 on the road and even a team outside the top 250 in Western Carolina at home. Oakland came into this game winning 9 straight ballgames and should have won the Championship and I think they are at a solid price here as small chalk. Oakland has consistently beaten some quality teams at home by double-digits and shoots just under 70% at home for free throws. They are a great story and I think it will be great for America to see this team play some more and I hope they make it to MSG. This team beat Oregon and Wisconsin Green-Bay on the road. Remember, Oakland is a top 70 team while Kent State is a top 125 team. Kent State when facing top 70 teams on the road has lost by 5 to Miami of Ohio (top 110), lost by 14 to Akron on the road(top 100), lost by 11 to Buffalo on the road (top 125), and lost by 6 to Ohio on the road (top 200). In fact, if my numbers serve me right, Kent State has not beat a top 100 team all year on the road and I expect them to have the same trouble tonight riding into a hot Oakland team. Let's take the Tourney caliber team, at home, on the short lay, who are 5-0-1 ATS against a team with a winning record and the Golden Flashes of Kent State are 0-9 ATS in non-conference games.
Sport: College Basketball
Game: Kent State Golden Flashes @ Oakland Golden Grizzlies - Tuesday March 17, 2009 7:00 pm
Pick: 4 unit(s) ATS: Oakland Golden Grizzlies -4 (-110) (Play of the Day)
4 Unit Play. #522. Take Oakland -4 over Kent State (Tuesday @ 7pm est). If you are looking for some solid dogs today who can win outright and more importantly cover, as those are my favorite plays, take a long look at Northeastern at Wyoming (you can read my research on my page why), or UAB on the road at Notre Dame as the public likely gets buried there, or even UNLV catching 7 at Kentucky as this is the same Rebel team that won at BYU and at Louisville - incredibly tough to do. Having said that, let's take Oakland today. Oakland might be one of the hottest teams in the country that no one is talking about coming into this game. Remember, they played a great game againts North Dakota State and frankly should have won that game. If they win that game, they woudl be dancing but simply collapsed with a double-digit lead as North Dakota State essentially won on a buzzer beater. Oakland has been dominant at home even beating Oral Roberts by double-digits earlier this year. Oakland even lost to Cleveland State, the Champs of their respective conference by 3 on the road. Remember, Cleveland State beat Butler on the road to win their conference championship. Kent State has been a bit weak on the road this year losing to the likes of Ohio, Buffalo, Akron, losing to Cleveland State by nearly 26 on the road and even a team outside the top 250 in Western Carolina at home. Oakland came into this game winning 9 straight ballgames and should have won the Championship and I think they are at a solid price here as small chalk. Oakland has consistently beaten some quality teams at home by double-digits and shoots just under 70% at home for free throws. They are a great story and I think it will be great for America to see this team play some more and I hope they make it to MSG. This team beat Oregon and Wisconsin Green-Bay on the road. Remember, Oakland is a top 70 team while Kent State is a top 125 team. Kent State when facing top 70 teams on the road has lost by 5 to Miami of Ohio (top 110), lost by 14 to Akron on the road(top 100), lost by 11 to Buffalo on the road (top 125), and lost by 6 to Ohio on the road (top 200). In fact, if my numbers serve me right, Kent State has not beat a top 100 team all year on the road and I expect them to have the same trouble tonight riding into a hot Oakland team. Let's take the Tourney caliber team, at home, on the short lay, who are 5-0-1 ATS against a team with a winning record and the Golden Flashes of Kent State are 0-9 ATS in non-conference games.
