NBC's "Catch A Predator" Settles Lawsuit With Family for Man’s Suicide

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Let's see, these guys are showing up at the bait house believing in their mind 100% that the person they are meeting for sex is a minor. They aren't thinking, well, she says she's only 14 but I know she's really 24. They are driving, in some cases, hundreds of miles to have sex with a minor. They are showing up with alcohol, condoms. I have seen some of the walk into the house naked. The fact that it's Chris Hanson meeting them in the kitchen doesn't change anything.

The law was broken before they even showed up at the house. I would rather have the law the way it is than wait until after the minor has had sex with the pervert.

This isn't a pretend fantasy with these guys. The intent is to sleep with a minor.
 

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We agreed on that back at about Post 25

What's deplorable to me is that an American can be criminally charged, convicted and imprisoned solely for the imaginary thoughts they have in their mind when there is literally no Real Live Human Being who has been either harmed or damaged.

ah well.....Let that be a lesson to those who have such fantasies in the USA. You're better off keeping them to yourself and not broadcasting them out to where some 38 year old man can report you.
 

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I guess we'll just disagree on intent then.

I could care less if Chris Hanson just shot them dead as they walked through the door.
 

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BTW, I have no problem with the whole PUNKED-style television setup where adults lure a dumbass who dreams of banging a minor into a staged setting where he is utterly exposed to the world at large.

Such dorks are worthy of exposure and I'd be down with the producers of the program going to his family members, neighbors and employer to interview them as to what they think of "Joe's" internet proclivities.
 

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Come on guys, for this guy to go and shoot himself when the cops got to his house, he must have known what they were there for or else he would not have shot himself. He knew exactly why they were at the house and his family shouldnt get a friggin dime from anybody. Its not the cops or datelines fault that this creep was freak.
 

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We really don't know what went on. He could have sent a pic, sent his phone number, etc to prove his identity.

Either way, I think that the judge is right in determining that a line was crossed between investigative journalism and other things. Not trying to defend child predators here, but NBC went WAY too far with this.
How can you go too far when dealing with this issue? They sent human garbage to prison....are we supposed to feel like those freaks somehow had their rights violated? And every time they go to do one of these stories, there is no shortage of pedophiles that come to the house. It's really scary how much evil is out there.
 

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Let's see, these guys are showing up at the bait house believing in their mind 100% that the person they are meeting for sex is a minor. They aren't thinking, well, she says she's only 14 but I know she's really 24. They are driving, in some cases, hundreds of miles to have sex with a minor. They are showing up with alcohol, condoms. I have seen some of the walk into the house naked. The fact that it's Chris Hanson meeting them in the kitchen doesn't change anything.

The law was broken before they even showed up at the house. I would rather have the law the way it is than wait until after the minor has had sex with the pervert.

This isn't a pretend fantasy with these guys. The intent is to sleep with a minor.

The problem with your argument is that this guy didn't turn up, and there's no proof he was ever intending to do so. We can't read his mind, so we can't simply make assumptions. It seems that potential pedophiles don't require the same burden as proof as the rest of the society, even when they may be innocent.

The whole setup stinks in my opinion as there are too many assumptions. Sure, most if not all caught were guilty and deserve punishment, but in my mind it only takes one innocent person to get caught up in it to make it a complete failure. That's how our society is meant to feel in when it comes to law and justice. Clearly many don't feel that way.

are we supposed to feel like those freaks somehow had their rights violated

The idea of the modern justice system is that everyone - no matter what they're accused or convicted of - has equal rights. When you start ignoring one group where does it stop? It's a slippery slope.

It's really scary how much evil is out there.

Evil? Most aren't out there because they want to screw up young kids, they're doing it because of psychological or chemical imbalance problems. Sure, some people think it's fun to screw up minors, but the majority it's more like an addiction. Of course, people can't expected to act rationally when it comes to protecting their children.
 

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I guess we'll just disagree on intent then.

I could care less if Chris Hanson just shot them dead as they walked through the door.


Tex... We are talking about the cops going to his house when he did not show up at the place not guys that went to the place to backdoor a 12 year old.

There is much more intent shown if he actaully went to meet the girl. I was surprised to hear this story b/c I thought they had no case until the guy drove up to the place.

On a side note, I prefer Chris Hanson to shank not shoot the guys that walk through the door. I probally watch the show if that happened...
 

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We agreed on that back at about Post 25

What's deplorable to me is that an American can be criminally charged, convicted and imprisoned solely for the imaginary thoughts they have in their mind when there is literally no Real Live Human Being who has been either harmed or damaged.

ah well.....Let that be a lesson to those who have such fantasies in the USA. You're better off keeping them to yourself and not broadcasting them out to where some 38 year old man can report you.

Mr. Conrad, by mandate of the District of Columbia Precrime Division, I'm placing you under arrest for having imaginary sex with an imaginary minor.

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The problem with your argument is that this guy didn't turn up, and there's no proof he was ever intending to do so. We can't read his mind, so we can't simply make assumptions. It seems that potential pedophiles don't require the same burden as proof as the rest of the society, even when they may be innocent.

The whole setup stinks in my opinion as there are too many assumptions. Sure, most if not all caught were guilty and deserve punishment, but in my mind it only takes one innocent person to get caught up in it to make it a complete failure. That's how our society is meant to feel in when it comes to law and justice. Clearly many don't feel that way.



The idea of the modern justice system is that everyone - no matter what they're accused or convicted of - has equal rights. When you start ignoring one group where does it stop? It's a slippery slope.



Evil? Most aren't out there because they want to screw up young kids, they're doing it because of psychological or chemical imbalance problems. Sure, some people think it's fun to screw up minors, but the majority it's more like an addiction. Of course, people can't expected to act rationally when it comes to protecting their children.
Do you excuse crimes due to "chemical imbalance?" Sorry, but murderers, rapists, child predators....they are evil. No need to sugarcoat it and make excuses for them.
 
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exactly. its amazing you guys are searching for excuses to justify them as innocent ppl.
 

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I am not making excuses for anyone. I don’t give a shit about dude and am glad they are busting these fawks. I am just wondering how the hell they can go to someone house with a warrant for chatting or doing something online to a minor.

Next thing you know they will have search warrants for posters houses/computers for talking about offshore gambling on a forum b/c they had “intent” to illegally gamble online…

I think we live in an overly policed society. Jail is full of people who got caught doing drugs. Not selling. Doing… The fact that someone is in jail for anything dealing with weed blows me away…

It’s a jail able offense to go over 20 MPH over the speed limit in VA. I had a friend from work do 3 months for 2 speeding tickets which were the only things on his record…

Ridiculous.
 
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? i'm in va, i've had 3 wreckless driving tickets for going over 20+ and haven't had any jail.
 

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i'm in va, i've had 3 wreckless driving tickets for going over 20 and haven't had any jail.


Ask Raj's brother Juice what happened to our friend Simon who got 2 reckless driving tickets in a month.

One day he was working with us at Booz Allen the next time we saw him was 3 months later after he got out of jail. He was a young kid with nothing on his record, college educated, with successful career and they still put him in the joint.

Maybe you had a good lawyer or something or maybe his Judge was pmsing...
 
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i didnt get a lawyer at all, just had lics. suspended

one of his violations must've been like over 100+, maybe like 50+ in child zone.
 

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Do you excuse crimes due to "chemical imbalance?" Sorry, but murderers, rapists, child predators....they are evil. No need to sugarcoat it and make excuses for them.
Don't underestimate a chemical balance..It is a very serious condition that takes just the right mix of medication to keep in under control..A friend of mine has been bi-polar for all of the 30 years that I've known him. He's normally a very normal church going kind of guy. But there has been times when his medication wasn't quite right, and he's completely gone off his rocker..In his case he went on drinking or drug binges. And he's been caught stealing from department stores a couple times. And this with a full wad of cash in his pocket..It's a strange condition that can't be fully explained or always controlled..I really feel sorry for him because I know he's trying to do right..But I can see in his face and his general attitute that's he about to pack it in at times. There's probably been more suicides from this condition than any other..Sadly sometimes before some people ever get diagnosed with the condition. I wouldn't wish it on anybody...It's torture.
 

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Don't underestimate a chemical balance..It is a very serious condition that takes just the right mix of medication to keep in under control..A friend of mine has been bi-polar for all of the 30 years that I've known him. He's normally a very normal church going kind of guy. But there has been times when his medication wasn't quite right, and he's completely gone off his rocker..In his case he went on drinking or drug binges. And he's been caught stealing from department stores a couple times. And this with a full wad of cash in his pocket..It's a strange condition that can't be fully explained or always controlled..I really feel sorry for him because I know he's trying to do right..But I can see in his face and his general attitute that's he about to pack it in at times. There's probably been more suicides from this condition than any other..Sadly sometimes before some people ever get diagnosed with the condition. I wouldn't wish it on anybody...It's torture.
I've got a good friend whose brother is bipolar and has attempted suicide twice. I realize that some people live with things that we couldn't imagine living with. But that doesn't excuse the crime. Ted Bundy was obviously fucked up psychologically. But he wasn't a "good guy with a chemical imbalance." Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong, chemical imbalance or not.
 

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i didnt get a lawyer at all, just had lics. suspended

one of his violations must've been like over 100+, maybe like 50+ in child zone.


Both were on highway but not sure the speed. But honestly jail for speeding? How about revoking his lic for 5-10 years.
 

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I've got a good friend whose brother is bipolar and has attempted suicide twice. I realize that some people live with things that we couldn't imagine living with. But that doesn't excuse the crime. Ted Bundy was obviously fucked up psychologically. But he wasn't a "good guy with a chemical imbalance." Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong, chemical imbalance or not.
Nah, not really...The older you get the more you realize things aren't that simple.
 

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