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Nirvana Shill
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Yeah, that a big issue for you and Josh Hawley?

I care what happens in America.

Hong Kong, lol....Yeah, that's keeping Americans awake at night. Gimme a break Red Eye.

I have a fiance that lives there.. Is that a big enough issue for me ? Alot of the protests and unrest there affects alot of people in so many ways.. Millions of people live there....broaden your mind a little. Might see things a little clearer.
 

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I don't have a platform like Lebron James.

If I did, I'd speak out against China. If I didn't speak out against China, I'd have literally zero credibility on human rights issues or social justice generally.

I hope this helps. You appear to be drooling all over yourself trying to formulate an argument.

This is obviously a logical fallacy based on what is important to the individual (their surroundings, their own tribal nature, nationalism)

Why would you have credibility on China if you don't speak up on Syria, well why would you have credibility on Syria if you don't speak up on Yemen?

Why would you have credibility if you buy products from Apple, Nike, Google, Microsoft, etc etc

And yes, LeBron is full of it and just spouting useless platitudes but who gives a shit if him and others don't care what is happening halfway around the world. Caring what happens halfway around the world is 1 of the main problems the US has had in the 21st century.
 

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Well, good thing you've taken a stand and boycotted every corporation that does business in China. That was very noble of you and the millions upon millions of Americans that are doing the same.

(Oh wait, no one is doing that because truly no one really cares...The world is an ugly place, get used to it)

Pat. Ur too nice of a guy. But you are not ever going to educate many of these people. I do appreciate ur effort though. I have been there..:103631605
 

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This is obviously a logical fallacy based on what is important to the individual (their surroundings, their own tribal nature, nationalism)

Why would you have credibility on China if you don't speak up on Syria, well why would you have credibility on Syria if you don't speak up on Yemen?

Why would you have credibility if you buy products from Apple, Nike, Google, Microsoft, etc etc

And yes, LeBron is full of it and just spouting useless platitudes but who gives a shit if him and others don't care what is happening halfway around the world. Caring what happens halfway around the world is 1 of the main problems the US has had in the 21st century.

lol jesus christ man

All I'm saying is that the NBA has no credibility on social justice or human rights.

This is 100% true. They care more about money than the millions of Chinese people suffering.

Time to move on. You lost the argument. The NBA has ZERO credibility on this issue. None. Nada.

If they want to lecture someone on how to expand into global markets, then they should be teaching the class on that subject. But human rights? Nope.
 

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I have a fiance that lives there.. Is that a big enough issue for me ? Alot of the protests and unrest there affects alot of people in so many ways.. Millions of people live there....broaden your mind a little. Might see things a little clearer.

So you think people that care about domestic issues in their own country aren't credible/hypocritical if they don't care about what is happening in Hong Kong or another country?

So if I care how US veteran are treated but not military in XYZ, that is hypocritical to you?
 

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lol jesus christ man

All I'm saying is that the NBA has no credibility on social justice or human rights.

This is 100% true. They care more about money than the millions of Chinese people suffering.

Time to move on. You lost the argument. The NBA has ZERO credibility on this issue. None. Nada.

If they want to lecture someone on how to expand into global markets, then they should be teaching the class on that subject. But human rights? Nope.

Just turn off your sports. U won't be missed. Every sport is going to have their version of this. Go back to your hole. One of the main reasons this is making me so happy, that it makes people like you go back to ur hole.
 

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Just turn off your sports. U won't be missed. Every sport is going to have their version of this. Go back to your hole. One of the main reasons this is making me so happy, that it makes people like you go back to ur hole.

You seem like the type of guy that is living in a hole, to be honest, Cletus. But that's neither here nor there.
 

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So you think people that care about domestic issues in their own country aren't credible/hypocritical if they don't care about what is happening in Hong Kong or another country?

So if I care how US veteran are treated but not military in XYZ, that is hypocritical to you?

Instead of using analogies, let's just state the facts.

The NBA explicitly silenced people who spoke out against China's human rights abuses.

The NBA is now giving a voice to people speaking out against alleged human rights abuses by the phantom police boogeyman.

Again, I'm starting to believe you are simply mentally retarded and can't be saved. Nothing you have said suggests that is not the case.
 

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lol jesus christ man

All I'm saying is that the NBA has no credibility on social justice or human rights.

This is 100% true. They care more about money than the millions of Chinese people suffering.

Time to move on. You lost the argument. The NBA has ZERO credibility on this issue. None. Nada.

If they want to lecture someone on how to expand into global markets, then they should be teaching the class on that subject. But human rights? Nope.

I would say they have no credibility (as well as all the other corporations that have waded into this faux-activism) on social justice/human rights/social issues because they're trying to put a nice easy PR friendly corporate spin on a complex and uncomfortable issue (race relations in America) but the whole "OMG HONG KONG" thing isn't quite the hypocritical gotcha people think it is. I care about what happens in America a lot more than I care about what happens halfway around the world, this message went a long way towards getting Donald Trump elected. I get it is a fun little "own the libs" thing to say "WHAT ABOUT HONG KONG", I dunno, what about it? We live in an imperfect world and I'd rather focus on domestic policy even if I largely disagree w/ the BLM stuff.
 

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If someone is apathetic to what's happening in China, that's one thing. The NBA literally took explicit steps to silence people. That's a bit different than apathy, wouldn't you agree?
 

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So you think people that care about domestic issues in their own country aren't credible/hypocritical if they don't care about what is happening in Hong Kong or another country?

So if I care how US veteran are treated but not military in XYZ, that is hypocritical to you?

My post to you was , alot of people do care about what happens in HK and other places in the world.. I could care less if it matters or not to you.. But you don't speak for everyone...
 

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I can be apathetic to a black kid getting shot and killed on the south side. That makes me a piece of shit, but not a crime.

However, if I drive down to the south side and give a trunk full of guns to the gangs, that's a bit different isn't it?

The NBA has taken steps that make it easier for China to abuse their citizens. That's the reality of this situation. They aren't just apathetic. They're not just bystanders. They are participants.
 

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Instead of using analogies, let's just state the facts.

The NBA explicitly silenced people who spoke out against China's human rights abuses.

The NBA is now giving a voice to people speaking out against alleged human rights abuses by the phantom police boogeyman.

Again, I'm starting to believe you are simply mentally retarded and can't be saved. Nothing you have said suggests that is not the case.

Yeah, they're "super concerned" (albiet misguided) with human rights in America, not China or Syria or Somalia or XYZ....

And? That isn't hypocritical to me. I'm not sure why it is to you if you believe in any type of nationalistic dogma.
 

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My post to you was , alot of people do care about what happens in HK and other places in the world.. I could care less if it matters or not to you.. But you don't speak for everyone...

Ok, so you agree with me then. It isn't hypocritical to care what happens in your own country vs someplace halfway around the world that has had an inferior culture for hundreds of years.

Your personal experience is what it is, but I would think you could understand the difference between what Americans think is important. And it isn't putting democracy in Iraq.
 

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Ok, so you agree with me then. It isn't hypocritical to care what happens in your own country vs someplace halfway around the world that has had an inferior culture for hundreds of years.

Your personal experience is what it is, but I would think you could understand the difference between what Americans think is important. And it isn't putting democracy in Iraq.

My original point to you was ...alot of us do care about what happens in HK. It doesn't for you , which is fine..

I would think you could understand the difference between what some Americans think is important...
 

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I can be apathetic to a black kid getting shot and killed on the south side. That makes me a piece of shit, but not a crime.

However, if I drive down to the south side and give a trunk full of guns to the gangs, that's a bit different isn't it?

The NBA has taken steps that make it easier for China to abuse their citizens. That's the reality of this situation. They aren't just apathetic. They're not just bystanders. They are participants.

So is every corporation that does business in China and props up CCP a participant? That's basically every US multinational. Are they all hypocritical about human rights abuses and should be ignored no matter what they ever say? There is no message about domestic policy they can have because of their silence or enabling of such matters through silencing higher up employees from speaking out on Hong Kong? It is a different part of the world with an inferior culture, sometimes you have to break eggs to make omelettes. Just reality.

To think the NBA telling Morey to shutup had any kind of tangible impact on China/Hong Kong is a pretty big leap as well.
 

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My original point to you was ...alot of us do care about what happens in HK. It doesn't for you , which is fine..

I would think you could understand the difference between what some Americans think is important...

Besides the effect it has on US foreign policy, do you care what happens in Iraq or Iran or Syria?

I care about ABC but not XYZ is a slippery slope, you can't just dismiss a person or group because they don't care about every injustice in the world. There isn't even enough time in the day.

And I would put the NBA's stance towards China far more towards apathy than complicity.
 
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The NBA has no credibility when it comes to human rights because they are the most involved major sports league in China.

Sorry, beta cuck.


But your cuck master Trumpybear praised China. Said they were led by a great president.

Is that not what you really think?
 
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Besides the effect it has on US foreign policy, do you care what happens in Iraq or Iran or Syria?

I care about ABC but not XYZ is a slippery slope, you can't just dismiss a person or group because they don't care about every injustice in the world. There isn't even enough time in the day.

And I would put the NBA's stance towards China far more towards apathy than complicity.



Absolutely correct.
 

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Besides the effect it has on US foreign policy, do you care what happens in Iraq or Iran or Syria?

I care about ABC but not XYZ is a slippery slope, you can't just dismiss a person or group because they don't care about every injustice in the world. There isn't even enough time in the day.

And I would put the NBA's stance towards China far more towards apathy than complicity.

HK is more of a vital place in the world than the shitholes you mentioned. Alot more at stake
 

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