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RED EYE said:
I tell you what you do, come to the RX Bash this year and tell me in front of everyone their that i'm a shill for Royal and that I will threaten people and I guarentee it will be on. I don't want your address,I have read your earlier quotes on what you have said, this is my response, now are you up for it ?

I guess that is a NO

I don't go to RX Bashes - sorry.
 

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Jay C said:
No, that's not what I am saying. I believe what you say.

I think what you are supposed to do is not play there and support a convicted swindler and a well known stiff in this very industry.

But, you're an adult and you are free to do business with whoever you choose. I just don't understand why, knowing what you know, with the plethora of choices you would choose them.
I belong to 22 shops and spread my money out. Look at the Posts I don't tell anyone where to play or where to post up so why is it a problem for me to just report the facts
 

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cincy_ said:
I guess that is a NO

I don't go to RX Bashes - sorry.
If your suggesting I'm going to hunt you down, get a life. Didn't think you would show up ar RX. Most people that throw inaccurate insults usually don't want to back them up.
 

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RED EYE said:
I belong to 22 shops and spread my money out. Look at the Posts I don't tell anyone where to play or where to post up so why is it a problem for me to just report the facts

It's not, and that's what the rest of us are doing, at least I am.
 

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So many better books to play with. Why go there?

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RED EYE said:
If your suggesting I'm going to hunt you down, get a life. Didn't think you would show up ar RX. Most people that throw inaccurate insults usually don't want to back them up.

LOL. I don't need you to hunt me down. You started it. YOU made a threat, and suggested I was hiding. I was willing to give you my address.

Yeah, going to the RX Bash is about backing stuff up.

Let me say this: If I do come to the RX bash, I will say what I want to say. Its pretty simple. Like I said, I don't hide - it's not my style.
 

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When you have posters shilling for the crooks of the off-shore industry, what good are these forums anyway?

Its too bad, when these same posters had a problem with BCN, we as posters banded together to make a statement.
 

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Chuck Sims said:
What a disgraceful shill job kermit16. You're on their list as a poster you JACKASS!!! The other 99.9% have to put up with lies, stall payouts and eventual stiff job. The owner is a convicted swindler who got his money by robbing people.
You are showing me what a classless act you are ! :pucking:
 

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So far I have yet to open an account with them - not because of what I have heard bandied about on the forums, but because I already have enough accounts at the present time.

They are however on my shortlist for possible sign ups in the future, most likely ready for next NFL season unless I spot something worthwhile before then.

One thing I will say from what I have noticed though is that they do seem to be a bit lacklustre with their futures - I know every company makes the odd mistake from time to time but in the last 6 months alone I have spotted a couple of occasions where they had obviously added an extra "0" to the prices.

Phoenix 100/1 to win NBA title this year and also Dale Jnr at 150/1 to win Nextel cup...
 

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cincy_ said:
That is besides the point. These guys are shills.

Just watch out - they might even threaten you.
No I didn't start it, it was you with this Post
 

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Chuck Sims said:
When you have posters shilling for the crooks of the off-shore industry, what good are these forums anyway?

Its too bad, when these same posters had a problem with BCN, we as posters banded together to make a statement.
BCN was a new Shop Chuck and Fishead was telling Posters to join. Nobody was compalining about bCN not paying that wasn't the issue. Still don't know why Posters like yourself have a problem where I play ? Why can't I play where I want to, don't tell you where to play
 

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RED EYE said:
Their hasn't been hundreds of players stiffed at royal, where did that come from.

Where did I say Royal stiffed hundreds of players? I said the OWNER of Royal has stiffed hundreds on players. So when you play there, you support him and therefore shit in the face of all the players who have had money stolen from the OWNER of Royal.
 

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Royal was one of the shops that bailed out all of the Posters that lost money at Aces. Thats where my loyalty starts. I don't see anyone bailing royal outat this time or any other time. still don't buy your agaenda that your looking out for every other player.
 

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My agenda is not to have people support a convicted swindler which is what you do everytime you place a bet there and then coming running to the forums that you were paid by him.
 

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truthteller said:
My agenda is not to have people support a convicted swindler which is what you do everytime you place a bet there and then coming running to the forums that you were paid by him.
Actually the mods on this site wanted to know if People were getting paid, thats why I posted it. Go back and research that. I'm going to play where I want to so really there is nothing more you can do or add to this thread as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Good, go play and support a scam artist. That's your choice. Luckily, most posters have more ethics and morals than you to support a convicted swindler.
 

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Thread turned into a stick and stones argument. Rubber Room.





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First of all let me state this fact for Cincy. I was told by a rx mod that Red Eye was a 70 year old man. Now you know why he sits behind his computer making threats. Now let me say that it is so obvious and I also know this for a fact, Redeye and Kermit are basically employees of Royals. How could you not catch their act. Redeye sure jumped in quick.

Now let me tell these clowns some truth. You are forgetting a very important fact. Kevin Smith from Royal came on this forum and posted an apology. He stated that he was sorry for lying and cheating me for three weeks about my 50 dime payout. He stated that he was willing to give me 20 grand if I would admit that I was lying about the concocted tapes. So no Redeye and Kermit, Royal wasnt telling the whole truth. I wasnt just creating a scam. I was responding to Royals refusal to pay me real money. Yes I was wrong. Dont bother. But dont try and tell us that Royal was innocent. They admitted it on this forum. Good books dont play games. Slow paying is not acceptable. Stop excusing it .

It is very significant that you are a small player. Of course they arent going to stiff a forum guy for 1 to 5 dimes. If you werent employees of Royal, why would you feel the need to waste your time by posting that Royal paid a forum guy his 2 or 3 grand?

Do you guys really not see the wrong in supporting a known crook?
This post is exactly why I continue to warn players about these scam shops. I hope you all see the reasons why I am so persistent now. Although these guys are obviously Royal schills, because of them there will always be someone who is considering sending these scam shops their hard earned cash. I am here to say "Dont do it". I experienced first hand the poison that is Royal and Betus. I dont care how outrageouss the bonuses are. If they have no intention to pay real winners, why wouldnt they offer rediculous bonuses?
To anybody who is looking for a new book to play with, Im telling you this to help you. Dont send Royal or Betus a penny. You might as well flush your money down the toilet. These books are the most dishonest places I have ever come across in my 35 years. Ive never seen anything like it. Its like they only hire compulsive liars. They have their clerks, poor Costa Ricans who need the jobs, lie for their dishonest gringo asses.

Ill be honest with you, if you are a small player, you most likely wont have any problems getting paid. But if you are a guy who has the desire to get your balance into the tens of thousands, Royal and Betus are not an option. NO WAY!!!!!

Cincy, Im with you all the way. I respect you for standing up for your ethics. It is ethically repungnant to send your money to these known crooks. Redeye and Kermitt, you insulted one of the most respected posters here. Chuck Simms has a ton of knowledge about these books. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves! What kind of people take money from crooks? And then you guys go gamble it away. Disgraceful!!!!
 

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Oh yea, I forgot to mention whatr a joke it is that Redeye and Kermit like Royal because they have free half point Fridays and great props. Hey guys, every book has great props. Us real players would rather know that are money is safe worry about a lousy half point. It cracks me up how small players jerk off to the thought of getting a free half point and lay 107.
 

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