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So, lander, what are you trying to say with "He went into the Marines right out of high school to be able to provide for his son." ???

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>universal rights and wrongs?

No, just what is right or wrong for the republic (USA).

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>What are you getting at Lander?

He hasnt an clue! He is just like most Liberals -- throws out "feel-good" statements that cannot withstand a debate with facts...

Notice, lander NEVER answered one question.

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The other thing he fails to point out is that this american hero also agreed with Bush.
 

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Lander, feel free to bring up as many names and accounts as you wish - you're only showing the reality of war. I don't have a need to 'rationalize' anything - I think the war is necessary in this case, and I share the sorrow of all families and friends who lose someone, but death in the service of country is not wasted.
 

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I can understand the fathers anguish. He lost his only son, and wants to blame someone for his sons death. Whether it's President Bush, the mechanics in charge of the helicopter maintenance, or the commander in charge, he will blame someone. His son was an adult he volunteered into the Marine Corp. His son did not volunteer for any number of job classification. His son picked a highly esteemed, yet very dangerous class in helicopter aviation. His son could have died in a training maneuver, or in this case a mechanical malfunction, or even died as the result of being shot down had this accident not occured. His son knew the risks and acceptable those risks as a sgt. There is no one to blame, not even his son. His son entered the Marine corp to be a professional soldier and died a Marine and professional soldier.

The same could be said for ANY profession that is volunteered with known risks: Firefighters, police officers, pilots, etc. There are risks with any job.

To blame is death on policy is unjust.
 
>His son was an adult he volunteered into
>the Marine Corp.

Well of course... But lander could not make himself say so! That's why folks like lander canNOT be trusted will the assimilation of facts , his agenda is more important!!

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Exellent post Gargoyle.

Thats why libs are looking for victims, or someone to blame,its always sombody elses fault.

The fathers grief and frustration is understandable..but the crime to the son will be if bush does not follow through.
 

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Well, we're sure to hear shortly how only poor minorities volunteer because they have no other viable option, and that they didn't know what volunteering for that kind of a specific position meant.

Tell the father, as they have said, that your son made his own decision, freely, and that we appreciate HIS sacrifice deeply.
 

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No responses from lander well...

I kinda miss him already

Then again I missed my hemmorhoids when they went away too.
 

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He DID NOT volunteer to be Bush's tool. He DID NOT volunteer to be forced to attack a foreign country so we can have control of their oil fields, and see lower gas prices. He Volunteered to defend his country, not to be used for whatever pleases the texas oil men.
 
>He DID NOT volunteer to be Bush's tool.

ALL soldiers are "tools" of the Commander in Chief.

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Lander

What are you trying to say. Did someone trick him into joining? He had no idea that the marines fought and died in wars? I feel badly for his father and family as i do about all the families who have lost loved ones. But believe this or not most families are very proud of their love ones serving in this great military.
 

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I am sure he had no idea that he would be forced to attack another country, when the entire world is against it.


We will not allow the UN to dictate our foreign policy, but will destroy Iraq if its leadership wont allow the UN to dictate its foreign policy. United States Government Hypocrites.
 

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Danny

He signed up, it was his job and it was voluntary. Your veiws on this war don't matter in this case. No one twisted his arm to join.

And over 70% of americans are for this war. So the whole world is NOT against it.
 
>when the entire world is against it.

Case in point of not caring for facts...

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And over 70% of americans are for this war. So the whole world is NOT against it.

right -- only 85% or so oppose the war so NOT all.
 
Girls,
Reread the purpose of the thread.

"Try finding this story on any of the major media outlets. They're more than ready to serve "were so proud", "he gave his life for our freedom" stories, but not this one.

TOO REAL, I suppose."


If you have any specific questions I will gladly answer them Thursday - I'll be out til' then (yes, occassionally I do indeed have a life). Bump the thread then.

Good night pacificists & war mon-gers.
 

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I actually saw this story on MSNBC about one and a half hours ago. They showed a picture of the marine, along with his father speaking over it.
Tragic story, but it was shown on TV..
 

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Lander

I've seen it at five times ones that i can remember include ABC, CNN, CNBC and my local news. You need to stop with conservative news orginazation crap.
 

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