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Actually, i am slightly bigger than Vince. Same height, but i'm more muscular. He's not as fast as other black quartwerbacks, he just glides. he will get hurt.

haha. Yeah, I got slammed hard you dumbfuck. Bring something better than that. So in reality, he led the team to a whopping 7 wins since the defense scored 3 TD's in one of those wins.

The guy is junk and you seriously think he will not miss a year or 2. Can't be a franchise guy. It has been proven. My God

He ran the second fastest fourty time, reportedly, for a ever, second to only Mike Vick... So I can see why you think he isn't as fast. Wow you are 6'5 230 pounds? I find that hard to believe but cool. And you have yet to debate the fact that all his numbers matter... Even the rushing ones.

And put your money where your mouth is. We will probably have to put the money up with a mod because you will probably bail once he doesn't get hurt next year.
 

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</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>*On this date in 1950 Joe Gilliam Jr. was born. He was an African-American professional football player.

From Nashville, TN., Joe Gilliam was the third of four children for Ruth and Joe Gilliam Sr. He grew up on the campus of Tennessee A&I State University (as the college was known prior to 1968). His father was a defensive coordinator at TSU. The younger Gilliam displayed his own athletic abilities at a young age, beginning at Nashville’s Washington Junior high School, where he participated in tumbling, track, and basketball. In 1966, he became the starting quarterback at Pearl High School and led the squad when they played in the city’s first season of integrated football. Gilliam kept close to the Tiger football team by serving as a ball boy.

His heroes included TSU quarterback Eldridge Dickey. Gilliam, who was called "Jefferson Street Joe" for a boulevard near Tennessee State was an All-American in 1970 and '71. He was an 11th-round draft pick by the Steelers in 1972. Along with Ed "Too Tall" Jones and Richard Dent, he was among the most famous football players to enter the NFL after playing at Tennessee State the school that also produced Olympic star Wilma Rudolph.

Gilliam earned a starting role for the Steelers in 1974; years after James Harris and Marlin Briscoe became pro football's first Black starting quarterbacks. Gilliam became a starter when several veterans, including quarterback Terry Bradshaw, went on strike. Gilliam kept the job when Bradshaw and the others returned, leading the Steelers to a 4-1-1 record. Gilliam played four years with the Pittsburgh Steelers however; drug problems led to his benching and derailed his NFL career.

Battles with cocaine and heroin left Gilliam in financial ruin. But he fought his problems in drug rehabilitation centers and worked as a counselor to help others with their addictions. Most recently in 1999, Dr. James Hefner, TSU President, allowed him to host a summer Youth Football Camp at Tennessee State with his father Joe Gilliam, Sr. Also he was able to go back to Pittsburgh, to be a part of the last-ever game played at Three Rivers Stadium.

He received rave reviews by the National TV announcers about his life, and path back to Nashville, Tennessee. Gilliam died of an apparent heart attack on December 25, 2000. He was 49.
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He ran the second fastest fourty time, reportedly, for a ever, second to only Mike Vick... So I can see why you think he isn't as fast. Wow you are 6'5 230 pounds? I find that hard to believe but cool. And you have yet to debate the fact that all his numbers matter... Even the rushing ones.

And put your money where your mouth is. We will probably have to put the money up with a mod because you will probably bail once he doesn't get hurt next year.


Yeah and mike vick surely worked out as a franchise guy. hahahaha

As far as putting money up, that probably won't wotk because Ic won't put money up that he gets next year but I will put money up that he misses an entire 16 games in his career unlike Peyton, brady, Palmer, brees, Favre, elway, You know other ACTUALLY FRANCHISE QB's. haha. Just admit it now, you'll never get it.
 

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Yeah and mike vick surely worked out as a franchise guy. hahahaha

As far as putting money up, that probably won't wotk because Ic won't put money up that he gets next year but I will put money up that he misses an entire 16 games in his career unlike Peyton, brady, Palmer, brees, Favre, elway, You know other ACTUALLY FRANCHISE QB's. haha. Just admit it now, you'll never get it.

Once again you ignore me... God is this getting old I give up...

You were wrong about his speed completely so you ignore it.

Did you know that rushing TD's equal the same as passing ones?

And no, no one can argue with you because of this fact. You ignore everything people say and change the subject when you are wrong... What is new
 
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Once again you ignore me... God is this getting old I give up...

You were wrong about his speed completely so you ignore it.

Did you know that rushing TD's equal the same as passing ones?

And no, no one can argue with you because of this fact. You ignore everything people say and change the subject when you are wrong... What is new


What the fuck am I wrong about? His freakin 40 time at the combine? Seriously. That doesn't even matter and is not even real football. I'm sure he will be running 40 yards at 1 time in a straight line with no pads on.

Tell me what I am wrong about. The guy has played all of what 12 games in his NFL career and you are trying to sell me that he is a franchise guy. How many rush TD's did he have? 4 or something like that? Hell, Peyton manning had 3 i think. Don't quote me on these but i know its somewhere around there. Or let me guess, if i am wrong on those numbers, you have proved something right?

You've got to be kidding me.

Sad thing is, it will not be proven on Young until about 2 or 3 years anyway. look at Vick, at 27, some are still acting like he can be a franchise guy yet when black quarterbacks, they get worse with age.

Just trust me, i'd be the best GM in the history of the planet because i understand things like this that you politically correct jackasses will never get
 
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Then we will admit that once it happens but it will not so i think i'm OK.

See, every black QB misses at least 1 season due to injury, most don't have the brain capacity for an NFL playbook, most take the mo9ney and run because they never envisioned having more than $80 on them at 1 time unless coming directly from a drug deal

Not going to get into this but, Vick has not missed a full season yet and Warren Moon was a franchise guy in my eyes and he never missed a whole season that I remember.
 
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Not going to get into this but, Vick has not missed a full season yet and Warren Moon was a franchise guy in my eyes and he never missed a whole season that I remember.


haha. good for you. Finally, i was going to wonder when some jackass would mention warren Moon. Congrats. But here is the problem with moon compared to what i say. First of all, he was a pocket quarterback unlike these homeboys we have today. Secondly, he benefitted at the time of this new Run N shoot offense that kinda took the league by storm at the time but once it was figured out, didn't do shit. (See Andre Ware and David Klingler)

And Michael Vick hasn't missed an entire season? when did he break his leg? And when did he come back? Week 16? Oh yeah, that counts, plus on top of that he missed a couple games here and there, thats why everyone is crowning matt Shaub as a great QB. So, he has missed over 16 games in his career since being drafted in 2001. Thats just sad. Anyone that kids themselves that he is a franchsie QB is an idiot. his best years are behind him
 
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Vick actually played 5 games that year, but no I do not think is a "franchise guy" either.

So your position has been modified now to say no black quarterbacks who are not pocket passers can succeed?

I dont think that the run and shoot was around in the CFL or in 1984 when he came into the league. I would also point to the fact that he was succesful in Minnesota and also the fact that two other quarterbacks did not thrive in the run and shoot might signify that he was what made the run and shoot work and not that teams had just "figured it out".

In short to not call Warren Moon, of the Hall of Fame, a "franchise guy" is a bit absurd in my opinion.

And dont forget he also likes to drink and beat his ho, which makes him ok in my book.
 

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What about Doug Williams , Super Bowl record 4 td passes in 2nd quarter will probably never be broken ............
 

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Not many black guys named Doug

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No backround checks on this one boys .... Hes as Black as Night ...

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Oh , I forgot to Mention .......................................................

MVP --- SUPERBOWL XXII

SUCK ON THAT WONDERFUL !!
 

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ps , Doug is short for Dougzekial
 

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Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have Superbowl rings not really sure if this is an argument for or against but...something to ponder.
 
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Vick actually played 5 games that year, but no I do not think is a "franchise guy" either.

So your position has been modified now to say no black quarterbacks who are not pocket passers can succeed?

I dont think that the run and shoot was around in the CFL or in 1984 when he came into the league. I would also point to the fact that he was succesful in Minnesota and also the fact that two other quarterbacks did not thrive in the run and shoot might signify that he was what made the run and shoot work and not that teams had just "figured it out".

In short to not call Warren Moon, of the Hall of Fame, a "franchise guy" is a bit absurd in my opinion.

And dont forget he also likes to drink and beat his ho, which makes him ok in my book.


Yes, I mean running quarterbacks. i'm a warren moon fan but part of his success did come with the Run N shoot in Houston. never modified my position, but I just don't want to type all of that out everytime being that nowadays all the ones we are talking about are the running kind except leftwich but he just sucks all around anyway
 
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What about Doug Williams , Super Bowl record 4 td passes in 2nd quarter will probably never be broken ............


Oh yeah, now we are reaching big time. He had a good game.

Still not a franchise guy. I guess larry Brown of the Cowboys is a great safety too and Howard from Green bay is also a great receiver since he was a SB MVP

Look at the body of work as a whole. every one in the NFL has had a good game somewhere along the line.

We are talking consistancy and longevity because that is what makes a "franchise" quarterback
 
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Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have Superbowl rings not really sure if this is an argument for or against but...something to ponder.


Yep, that was my argument when peyton didn't have one. football is a complete team game and the Bics. and the ravens had absolutely dominant defenses and that is why they won the SB.
 
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Oh , I forgot to Mention .......................................................

MVP --- SUPERBOWL XXII

SUCK ON THAT WONDERFUL !!



Haha. suck on 1 black guy that had a good game with 3 great receivers around him. How many super bowls have their been? 40 some and now we got one SB winning quarterback. My God.

Williams ended up proving he was a franchise guy, thats for sure. now he is down in grmabling country teaching other of his kind what the whites owe him.
 
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Thats bullshit. I thought he was at Grambling.

See, he'll probably eventually be a GM and you know why, because he played pro football so they want to put him in a business position because of it.

Guarantee I'd be better at he is. Probably others here would be too but its a long shot we'll get there. man, i feel like a homeboy bitching that I got my GED and now no med schools will take me
 

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