Come on Box - when you say they are by far the most overrated team that infers to its very core that you are saying they aren't very good.
I also did say that Stafford (and their offense) is mediocre.
The schedule will be their undoing IMO. Going to LSU and then having a pissed off UF team is not a recipe for winning the SEC IMO.
I also did say that Stafford (and their offense) is mediocre.
The schedule will be their undoing IMO. Going to LSU and then having a pissed off UF team is not a recipe for winning the SEC IMO.
To me Box, there is more hype on FL (TIMMMMM TEEEBOW) than UGA. They will be ranked higher (or 1 off in the preseason poll) and are the darlings of the SEC according to the media. If this was the case (in your mind), would you consider FL as the "Most overrated team by FAR"?
I honestly love reading your threads, but I think there is serious bias in what you are saying. In my opinion, the SEC is tough regardless, and nearly every team towards the top will finish close to 6-6 or 7-5 ATS. We can look back in the end and see.
Regardless, I can't wait for college football. IT IS the best game going.
Looking forward to the season as well.
Back to the topic of discussion here, and you keep bringing Florida into this. This thread is not about Florida, it has nothing to do with Bulldogs/Gators, this is a handicapping thread about Georgia. You cant call me biased and then keep making this into a Gators/Bulldogs thing. Regardless, I will play along.:toast:
You can believe that I am biased all you want and I can say the same about you. Bottom line, I call it like I see it. I have said numerous times that Florida is overrated as well. You refuse to say the same, though. So you cant pull the bias card when I have no problems ripping into my team, but you dont have the ability to do that to your own.
There is a difference here though. Florida is NOT more overrated than Georgia. Reasons:
Yes. 100% Florida is the media darlings of the SEC. No doubt about it!
That doesnt change the fact that:
1. Tim Tebow is NOT hype. Hype is a creation. Hype is nothing to back it up. Hype is smoke and mirrors. Tim Tebow flat out produces. You can say whatever you want about Tim Tebow in the NFL and if he can make it or not. Thats a different discussion for a different day. Fact is, he is an outstanding college quarterback. He broke a bunch of records (fact), put up ridiculous stats (fact) and won the Heisman Trophy in a legitimate conference against legitimate competition. That's not hype. While the media certainly loves him, and he gets a lot of attention, that attention is well deserved in this particular case. It is rare to have a Heisman Winner return the following year, and have that guy be a legit player. I think people sense that Tebow is not Jason White, and Tebow was an impact player, not a guy leeching off the talent around him.
Hype is actually Matthew Stafford - Who definitely has an NFL arm, definitely has an NFL body, but hasnt even put up outstanding numbers in college yet. Stafford has never had less than 10 picks, ranked 56th in the nation in QB Efficiency last year, yet is being heralded as a potential Heisman candidate, 1st round pick, and leader of a national title team. That sounds like textbook hype to me.
2. Gators are also overrated. Hype is saying the Gators are a national title contender this year simply because they won it a few years ago, they have some juniors again, and they have a Gator as their logo. That's ignoring the defensive side of the football and hyping them up. Thats basically what has happened to USC, Okalahoma, etc the past few years. "Oh okay, they are the Trojans and the Sooners, they have some juniors, they are national title contenders."
To me though, bigger hype is beating Hawaii in a bowl game and then people saying the winner of that game is ready to be a national title contender because of how impressively they beat Hawaii and had a winning streak down the stretch. That's smoke and mirrors to me.
3. I am of firm belief in handicapping that defense is the most important part of the game. Florida's defense is average. Georgia's is good. But not GREAT. Not a dominant, top 3, top 5 shut 'em down every game kind of unit. I think you need a GREAT defense to compete for a national title, unless your offense is "legendary". Georgia's offense is far from legendary, while Florida's offense has a chance to be legendary. Georgia is not outstanding on either side of the ball, while the Gators are, and to me that is the difference if you want to keep comparing the two teams. It doesnt mean I think FL will beat Georgia, it doesnt mean I think they are better - just talking about overrated teams.
4. Coaching - The Gators actually did win a title just 2 years ago. With the same coach, same system in place now. Mark Richt...eh, you get the point.
Florida always has a target, a bullseye on their back. They have been playing with that target for a long time. Partly because they are the media darlings of the SEC. They know the feeling of having every single team play the Gators like it is a national title. Georgia does not. People see Georgia as an SEC team - a middle-of-the-pack to good SEC team, and they dont have a lot of experience of coming out of the gate and going wire to wire with a target on their back, and I think they are in for a rude awakening.
As a Georgia fan, your hopes are getting brought up just to get ripped down by the media, other fans, etc. There are people I know that think FL and GA will be undefeated coming into the Cocktail Party next year. I think thats a LONGSHOT. Just like these idiots on the Gator boards that think if the Gators dont play for the national title it is a bust year.
Florida is not that good to where that should be their goals, just as it shouldnt be for Georgia. Florida's schedule is actually a walk in the park compared to recent years though.
Anyway, I got more, but too unorganized of a reply already and I gotta get some lunch.
Talk later!
georgia is a real decent team. if you are saying they're overrated vs the preseason top 2 well, of course you're right but they are certainly one of the top 20 teams in the nation. tough schedule, tons of injuries, and a shaky D but still won plenty of games. By no means are they the top 5 team folks assumed they would be but there's factors beyond just "being overrated" that you're missing
