more scientists caught manipulating data to prove global warming

[akphidelt]

So we're going to veer this insipid global warming topic into a debate about what is a racist statement and who is a racist? OK then, at least there I have an opinion. It's about ..... INTENT! For the most part anyway. The INTENT of Schiff posting "red-faced alki" or whatever he scribbled is to taunt, or bait another poster about his ethnicity. Therefore it is racist, due to its intent. Contrarily, Willie's statements about who votes for whom and why in what locale are certainly NOT racist. Whether Willie's conclusions are correct or not they are based upon his conclusions about events, and are certainly not INTENDed to bait another poster.

Scott, I'd understand your point if those were real numbers but his statement...


Did you know?

Romney actually won the working class vote (read non inner-city) by the same majority Reagan did, 20 points.

there was just a larger working class vote in 1980, 88% vs 72%, thus Ronnie won in a blow out

poor Jimmy, must be thinking "timing" is everything


Romney nor Reagan won the working class vote by 20 points. The working class vote was not 88% in 1980 and it was not 72% in 2012. Those figures he is using is the white vote numbers. Not actual working class numbers and his implication is that the white vote is the working class and the non-white vote is the non-working inner-city class. That's why he says "poor Jimmy"... because he's implying he was unlucky that there were not more non-working minorities in 1980.

It's pretty much a very racist statement and he did this multiple times knowing full well what he was implying.

 

[ScottL]

Ak I'm having a bit of trouble following your point. If you are saying Willie is fudging the figures, or drawing incorrect conclusions I'm too lazy to investigate that. I can only make my own conclusions based upon years of posting here with Willie that he's not a racist nor is he intolerant. He's simply a guy who lives by a certain set of beliefs and stands up for them. He's even hung out with Barman, a far lefty closet homo (J/K Steve) who disagrees with him on every issue, and has been known to fight kind of nasty in here (sucking out fetus comments, etc), although he has seen the light and realized, "It's just a forum man." He also fervently supports UConn Hoops which usually has 5 starters darker than himself, and their head coach as well.

 

[mplastered]

Ak I'm having a bit of trouble following your point. If you are saying Willie is fudging the figures, or drawing incorrect conclusions I'm too lazy to investigate that. I can only make my own conclusions based upon years of posting here with Willie that he's not a racist nor is he intolerant. He's simply a guy who lives by a certain set of beliefs and stands up for them. He's even hung out with Barman, a far lefty closet homo (J/K Steve) who disagrees with him on every issue, and has been known to fight kind of nasty in here (sucking out fetus comments, etc), although he has seen the light and realized, "It's just a forum man." He also fervently supports UConn Hoops which usually has 5 starters darker than himself, and their head coach as well.

Hey, the b man is a good dude. Do not drag him into this. We actually texted the other night as the Buccos were teaching TB all about baseball.

 

[festeringZit]

how come Barman doesn't post in here any more? I noticed he posted (under a pseudonym) for a short while recently to give JoeC a razzing....

 

[ScottL]

Hey, the b man is a good dude. Do not drag him into this. We actually texted the other night as the Buccos were teaching TB all about baseball.

I shouldn't have. I only thought of him because so many of these threads need to be merged!

 

[mplastered]

how come Barman doesn't post in here any more? I noticed he posted (under a pseudonym) for a short while recently to give JoeC a razzing....

He's been extremely busy expanding his business. Good for him. I also think ( hope he doesn't get mad ) he's spending more time with the wife.

 

[akphidelt]

Ak I'm having a bit of trouble following your point. If you are saying Willie is fudging the figures, or drawing incorrect conclusions I'm too lazy to investigate that. I can only make my own conclusions based upon years of posting here with Willie that he's not a racist nor is he intolerant. He's simply a guy who lives by a certain set of beliefs and stands up for them. He's even hung out with Barman, a far lefty closet homo (J/K Steve) who disagrees with him on every issue, and has been known to fight kind of nasty in here (sucking out fetus comments, etc), although he has seen the light and realized, "It's just a forum man." He also fervently supports UConn Hoops which usually has 5 starters darker than himself, and their head coach as well.

Scott, this is what he did, and he knows he did it on purpose.

In 1980: The % of voters that were white was 88%.
In 2012: The % of voters that were white was 72%.

In 1980: Reagan won the white vote 60%-40% (that's where Willie is getting his 20 points)
In 2012: Romney won the white vote 60%-40%


Willie, however replaced "White Vote" with "Working class Vote" in an attempt to imply that white people are the workers that voted for Reagan/Romney and minorities are the non-workers that vote for Jimmy/Obama.

It is clearly an attempt to be racist. Not the end of the world, but he doubles and triples down on it by accusing me of lying and being scum, etc, etc... when those statements were actually incredibly racist comments. Willie might enjoy and like his basketball team, that doesn't mean he can't be a racist.

 

[SheriffJoe]

I don't care who you are... this is a racist comment...

Did you know?

Romney actually won the working class vote (read non inner-city) by the same majority Reagan did, 20 points.

there was just a larger working class vote in 1980, 88% vs 72%, thus Ronnie won in a blow out

poor Jimmy, must be thinking "timing" is everything

Doesn't have to mean Willie hates minorities, but he definitely showed he thinks him and his race are superior. Which pretty much defines a racist. Not once has Willie addressed these comments. Willie knows exactly what he's saying here. If he apologized for it and said it was done in poor taste and he isn't a racist. That would fine. But he made these comments multiple times and has never once apologized. That's as racist as it gets. And Willie knows it, that's why he gets so defensive but Wrong Way has trouble admitting when he screwed up. He was just butt hurt his election predictions made him look like an idiot so he took it out on minorities for voting, lol.

Sorry, people who vote for their own servitude are inferior...Willie was just stating the unvarnished non-PC truth - he, being a self-sufficient individual IS superior to those who choose to live on the modern Democrat Plantation.

Deal with it.

 

[akphidelt]

Sorry, people who vote for their own servitude are inferior...Willie was just stating the unvarnished non-PC truth - he, being a self-sufficient individual IS superior to those who choose to live on the modern Democrat Plantation.

Deal with it.

There's no truth to it. The numbers aren't even accurate. No surprise you agree with Willie on something that isn't even remotely accurate, lol.

 

[SheriffJoe]

There's no truth to it. The numbers aren't even accurate. No surprise you agree with Willie on something that isn't even remotely accurate, lol.

The data doesn't lie, only fratfraud does.

 

[akphidelt]

The data doesn't lie, only fratfraud does.

Lmao, that has absolutely nothing to do with this debate. You are hilarious.

 

[The Guesser]

I love this place. Guesser and AK think I'm a right wing loon. You think I'm a libtard. Can't make this shit up.

Not at all. You're a Fiscal Conservative. It's guys like you that can save your party, if it can be saved anymore. It seems like the extreme right wing just wants to crash and burn it, and start their own treehouse. Probably a good idea, so Normal Conservatives like you that still exist no longer have to dragged down by the loons.

 

[comrade666]

I'm going to stay involved and I will start a thread. Just shocked that the rx is the online headquarters for the tea party movement

 

[comrade666]

You sound like a real genius.

I admit that the wording of the post might have sounded a little weird. But the main point is that people will argue against facts and reality

 

[The Guesser]

I'm going to stay involved and I will start a thread. Just shocked that the rx is the online headquarters for the tea party movement

Good. Welcome. We need more Non Tea Party Movement guys down here.

 

[ScottL]

I'm going to stay involved and I will start a thread. Just shocked that the rx is the online headquarters for the tea party movement

Comrade it isn't really. A few years ago they were a lot of loony lefties here as well. Some are still in the stock forum. You have to realize first of all this is a gambling site on the internet. So people with mainstream views, or people who are not into politics and those who like to keep their political leanings to themselves are not going to visit or post here too often. So that leaves mostly the hot-tempered and people with extreme views as a large group of posters. But some of us here are open-minded and even tolerate the others who only post in anger or to annoy other posters. But you are welcome to open a topic about anything in here.

 

[ScottL]

I admit that the wording of the post might have sounded a little weird. But the main point is that people will argue against facts and reality

Just a warning about Ace comrade. Have you ever heard the phrase, "Bull in a China Shop?" Well this Ace guy ya see, he's even more rambunctious than that. He's a Bull who brings along his own China Shop with him :shoot3:

 

[BleedingPurple]

Well I am relatively new to the forum if you go to another forum I am known. I run a 33 board for basebal, football, and fantasy in both with never a bitch.

I personally don't think willie is a racist by what Aki posted. I do think Aki is a sharp guy. I think montis, Scott, guesser, and even gas is a smart guy, don't mean to leave anyone out but joe, Acceb, and schiff will make anyone want to dispute to the end just out of hatred towards their posts. Anyone who defends thewop IMO should look at themselves. This forum is a hate built forum full of comedy, people take this shit to suck extreme and I find myself guilty of such. It's a forum full of insults and no thread has any substantial good debate and it's sad for a group of men

 

[akphidelt]

I admit that the wording of the post might have sounded a little weird. But the main point is that people will argue against facts and reality

You're speaking to one of the most insane dudes on this site. Don't expect much, lol. But welcome.

 

[akphidelt]

Well I am relatively new to the forum if you go to another forum I am known. I run a 33 board for basebal, football, and fantasy in both with never a bitch.

I personally don't think willie is a racist by what Aki posted. I do think Aki is a sharp guy. I think montis, Scott, guesser, and even gas is a smart guy, don't mean to leave anyone out but joe, Acceb, and schiff will make anyone want to dispute to the end just out of hatred towards their posts. Anyone who defends thewop IMO should look at themselves. This forum is a hate built forum full of comedy, people take this shit to suck extreme and I find myself guilty of such. It's a forum full of insults and no thread has any substantial good debate and it's sad for a group of men

Can I ask how it is not racist?