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This was a criminal matter but the main reason the NCAA hit the program hard was because of the cover up Psu was protecting itself so recruiting would not be affected. That program had to be punished.
 

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This was a criminal matter but the main reason the NCAA hit the program hard was because of the cover up Psu was protecting itself so recruiting would not be affected. That program had to be punished.

So, the administration doesn't take the proper action so you punish the coaches and the players as well as fans? Oh by the way, when you put out a shit product, people don't come to the games so it impacts the local economy.
 

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Fuck the coaches that coach at PSU right now that weren't even around when this shit happened? So they have to deal with no postseason and less scholarships for what? These guys are there right now trying to restore faith in the program and they should still be punished?

Talk about delusional.
No, not the coaches now. I meant at the time.
 

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Fuck the coaches that coach at PSU right now that weren't even around when this shit happened? So they have to deal with no postseason and less scholarships for what? These guys are there right now trying to restore faith in the program and they should still be punished?

Talk about delusional.

It is absolutely delusional to say the current coach James Franklin is being punished. If so I want some of that punishment. He left Vandy, a school which could play in a bowl, and 3 mil on the table, for a pay raise and knowingly went to a school under sanctions. How is he being punished? He knowingly accepted the job under sanctions. Talk about a punishment, he got a 1.5 million dollar raise! Talking about millionaire coaches being punished for not being allowed to play in a bowl game is delusional. There should be no sympathy for any major D1 college coach who can leave at the drop of a hat like Franklin did to Vandy for millions more.
 

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So, the administration doesn't take the proper action so you punish the coaches and the players as well as fans? Oh by the way, when you put out a shit product, people don't come to the games so it impacts the local economy.

So it's the NCAA's job to help protect some Pub in Happen Valley 8 Saturdays out of the year? Why should the NCAA take the local economy into affect when delivering punishment? If that is the case the NCAA should increase the scholarships and give benefits to teams with low attendance to help their local economy. The local economy argument is weak and does not make any sense. That is something the NCAA should not even consider. The NCAA is not in the business of promoting local economies.
 

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Bullshit dude. This was a criminal matter in which the NCAA should never have been involved in to begin with.

So if it comes out that a bunch of D1 football players were all living in a football dorm running dope and pimping out girls in that dorm the football program should not be affected? It is a criminal matter not NCAA matter right? The NCAA should stay out of all criminal matters? The school or team has no responsibility at all for what happens on its campus?
 

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So if it comes out that a bunch of D1 football players were all living in a football dorm running dope and pimping out girls in that dorm the football program should not be affected? It is a criminal matter not NCAA matter right? The NCAA should stay out of all criminal matters? The school or team has no responsibility at all for what happens on its campus?

Uh no, that is an NCAA matter when players are involved. The NCAA should have zero to do with criminal investigations that having nothing to do with coaches or players.
 

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So it's the NCAA's job to help protect some Pub in Happen Valley 8 Saturdays out of the year? Why should the NCAA take the local economy into affect when delivering punishment? If that is the case the NCAA should increase the scholarships and give benefits to teams with low attendance to help their local economy. The local economy argument is weak and does not make any sense. That is something the NCAA should not even consider. The NCAA is not in the business of promoting local economies.

You don't think it's the NCAA's job to consider all of the ramifications before levying sanctions on a program especially given this situation. Of course it is.
 

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It is absolutely delusional to say the current coach James Franklin is being punished. If so I want some of that punishment. He left Vandy, a school which could play in a bowl, and 3 mil on the table, for a pay raise and knowingly went to a school under sanctions. How is he being punished? He knowingly accepted the job under sanctions. Talk about a punishment, he got a 1.5 million dollar raise! Talking about millionaire coaches being punished for not being allowed to play in a bowl game is delusional. There should be no sympathy for any major D1 college coach who can leave at the drop of a hat like Franklin did to Vandy for millions more.

The program was being punished. Punished for nothing they had to do with.
 

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I wonder when all the memories of rape and sexual abuse leave the victims?
Oh thats right.....those stay a lifetime.

and that means sanctions on players/coaches not associated with that tragedy should last a lifetime?
 

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punished?

kids at the program when sanctions handed down were given option to transfer without penalty

all others chose to be there

punished?

psu is still a good school, can't fault kids for staying or wanting to go there. you're making it seem like an easy life decision to just transfer schools or neglect a good school based on some sick old fuck's perversions.
 

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They play and work for the university where it was allowed to happen. The victims are just an innocent as these players and coaches but you don't think so I get it

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You don't think it's the NCAA's job to consider all of the ramifications before levying sanctions on a program especially given this situation. Of course it is.

No, it is not the job of the NCAA to determine which local college town's economies get support and which ones do not. That is not the job of the NCAA. The NCAA is not the World Bank or IMF. That is why the local economy argument PSU truthers make is weak.

So what if a few bars/restaurants have to close in Happy Valley because some fair weather fans, who most likely never even attended PSU, do not go to the games because the team is not as good. That should never factor into the NCAA's decision.
 

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No, it is not the job of the NCAA to determine which local college town's economies get support and which ones do not. That is not the job of the NCAA. The NCAA is not the World Bank or IMF. That is why the local economy argument PSU truthers make is weak.

So what if a few bars/restaurants have to close in Happy Valley because some fair weather fans, who most likely never even attended PSU, do not go to the games because the team is not as good. That should never factor into the NCAA's decision.

So, you are a member of the NCAA and are sitting in Texas deciding whether SMU should get the death penalty or not. On your list of pros and cons with your fellow NCAA members, you don't consider what levying the death penalty on a program will do to the players, coaches, fans and community? You don't at least think about it? Of course you do.
 

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The program was being punished. Punished for nothing they had to do with.

You mean JoePa, the head football coach and highest paid public employee in the State of PA, had nothing to do with this? You know Sandusky had an office near JoePas, emeritus status and unfettered access to PSU football facilities right up until he was charged right? You know McQueary was promoted by JoePa right?

So McQueary tells JoePa in 2001 he saw his former DC fondling a boy in the football building in 2001. Now fast forward to 2010, JoePa is still the coach, McQueary has been promoted by JoePa and Sandusky is still walking around using the PSU football facilities. You don't think JoePa, at a bare minimum, could have told Sandusky or his superiors I never want to see that asshole in or around our football facilities again? No, it was poor old JoePa, the guy never had any real power to do anything right?
 

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The whole innocent coaches and players are being punished is a crock of shit. It happens at every school! The coaches/players that caused the mess never get punished so what else is the NCAA to do but send a message to school administrators that this shit should not be tolerated or we will hurt the program. Just like OSU &USC football. Memphis & UM basketball. The atmosphere at PSU football allowed this to happen for so long. Former players even said JoePa and the coaches encouraged football players to volunteer for Sandusky's Second Mile charity on the PSU campus! Sandusky had an office on the PSU campus he was using right until charges were filed.

And honestly, please stop whining about hurting the players or the coaches. The last people on this planet that need sympathy are D1 college football coaches who will make more in 5 years than 99.9% of the posters on this board will make in a lifetime for coaching a sport. As for the players, except a handful of junior and senior walk-ones, how sorry can you feel for them. Oh damn, you have a hard knock life. You had to transfer from PSU to USC. That must have been devastating says the average college student going into deeper debt. GTFO innocent players. Hackenberg knew the sanctions were coming and still went to PSU. How is he being punished?

woo-hoo, someone gets it.
 

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