No. I am a shameless Belichick apologist. He is the best coach ever to coach in the NFL. I will always believe that Brady matured under Belli and Belli was able to maneuver his way through the salary cap and free agency because he had Brady. Between the two of them they gave us twenty years of football excellence that you will never again see duplicated in ANY sport.
Kraft saw in Belli what he needed. Belli who? He hired him. Belli saw in Brady what he needed. Brady who?He made him his starter and kept him there when Bledsoe healed (you must remember the controversy that decision sparked around here. At least half the media and fanbase wanted Bledsoe. Belichick didn't waiver.) Excellence scaled up and down.
Belichick was the most integral piece to the Patriot dynasty.
He remains in my opinion the best in game coach in football. And also the coach who prepares his defense the best for each weekly opposition.
His weakness is offensive game planning. And more importantly he has recently failed miserably in assembling the players necessary to succeed in the 2023 NFL.
Keep him as the coach. Allow him veto power when "selecting the groceries" but give the job to someone else.
I think that he is a reasonable man and must understand how he has come up woefully short in assembling a group of men who can win in today's NFL. It shouldn't be hard for Kraft to convince him of that.
Ok what if he says no, then what do you do? I think the scenario you are laying out is pretty unrealistic (besides PR window dressing which is possible), BB ain't taking a public neutering and someone picking his players has disaster written all over it anyway.
That was the question, then what? I actually think it wouldn't come to that. Kraft knows that's not realistic to just change the parts he wants and have his cake and eat it too. You're either in or out with someone of that stature. You don't get demote to them as you see fit, Kraft found that out with Parcells already.
"Bill, in 4 years we went from sugar to shit. You ran the team into the ground, no more player personnel for you, cool?"....C'mon lol
That was the question, then what? I actually think it wouldn't come to that. Kraft knows that's not realistic to just change the parts he wants and have his cake and eat it too. You're either in or out with someone of that stature. You don't get demote to them as you see fit, Kraft found that out with Parcells already.
"Bill, in 4 years we went from sugar to shit. You ran the team into the ground, no more player personnel for you, cool?"....C'mon lol
Reasonable men negotiate reasonable solutions in times of distress. We disagree that this can be settled in a way that leads to future Patriot success.
I don't believe that he would and I wouldn't want Kraft to fire him. If a reasonable solution cannot be worked out in a manner similar to what I outlined I think that an agreement should be made where Belichick steps down and walks away on his own. It's unthinkable for me to "fire" the man who was most integral to bringing this organization to the heights that he has.
I believe in loyalty and gratitude.
I don't believe that he would and I wouldn't want Kraft to fire him. If a reasonable solution cannot be worked out in a manner similar to what I outlined I think that an agreement should be made where Belichick steps down and walks away on his own. It's unthinkable for me to "fire" the man who was most integral to bringing this organization to the heights that he has.
I believe in loyalty and gratitude.
Obviously any scenario where he leaves the team is gonna be a "steps down, parting of ways" type deal rather than him getting "fired", even if that happens it basically means he got fired. That's just PR language.
So you're saying if he is unwilling to take a demotion when it comes to player personnel, you would basically be done with him, right?
We'll see, I could see some PR dressing to where someone is brought in but don't really see BB giving up much control after having control for over 20 years. Maybe with his next team.
Image some high paid FA ends up busting that BB didn't want? He would be benching him on national TV for the world to see. Yeah I can't see Kraft going "half measure" here, that's a tough spot to be in.
So you're saying if he is unwilling to take a demotion when it comes to player personnel, you would basically be done with him, right?
We'll see, I could see some PR dressing to where someone is brought in but don't really see BB giving up much control after having control for over 20 years. Maybe with his next team.
Image some high paid FA ends up busting that BB didn't want? He would be benching him on national TV for the world to see. Yeah I can't see Kraft going "half measure" here, that's a tough spot to be in.
I don't know, Pats. We're dealing with a guy in Belichick who does not have a conventional ego. He shows us that in many ways.
I think that he knows that he can coach the hell out of a team. And I think that he has to know that his personnel decisions have left him with a depleted squad inadequate to the task at hand. It shouldn't be that hard to convince him to concentrate on what he has done better than any other NFL coach in history - coach.
I'm sure that despite his age that he loves coaching and would not want to come off the field. And I'm just guessing that he and Kraft have a pretty good relationship. So why would he want to leave here where he is so positively entrenched in the community? I think they work something out to their mutual satisfaction. We'll see. Maybe I'm dead wrong.
I don't feel that strongly about him saying "Nah, status quo or I'm out" or anything. That would just be my first thought that 1 of these parties would realize that has a lot of potentially untenable and chaotic elements to it. Who picks the players, what type of team are you trying to build, when are you trying to contend again by, what's the goal for next year? Just seems like you're gonna get competing visions pretty fast there but maybe the specter of starting with a new org at age 72 is too much and he just says fine, we'll do it your way. Obviously it is possibe.
I just wanted your take on if he said no, would you say OK then it is over. Sounds like you're saying yeah to that.
I just wanted your take on if he said no, would you say OK then it is over. Sounds like you're saying yeah to that.
I'm an optimist and a negotiator. I believe in win / win settlements.
I guess my brain won't let me get to anything but an amicable solution between reasonable men who are great at their specialties.
I think that Kraft and Belichick will get this worked out where both parties are happy and Patriot Nation is happy. We'll see.
I guess my brain won't let me get to anything but an amicable solution between reasonable men who are great at their specialties.
I think that Kraft and Belichick will get this worked out where both parties are happy and Patriot Nation is happy. We'll see.
Evidently you're missing my arguments about why Mac Jones is the biggest problem
Horrible decision making, bad reads, late reads, holding the ball too long and his favorite bailout is throwing a bomb down the sidelines when he needs 3 yards or less for a first down. I'm sorry, Bill O'Brian is not making those calls. I'm beginning to think it wasn't Matt Patricia's fault either, he had a retard at QB
And that may not be his biggest problem . He throws too many pick sixes on weak pathetic passes. It not about bad breaks, just look at the pick six he threw against the Saints. Then look at the pick he threw against the Raiders, he's a mentally weak man, does stuff a 10 year old QB is told not to do.
Lastly, his antics on the sidelines are juvenile. Fuck Mac Jones
Now nobody is arguing their roster is ideal, but they're still competitive if Mac Jones wasn't dragging the team down
It is a garbage roster. They’re one of the worst teams in the league.
He had 3 coordinators in 3 years including a former DC, has bottom tier OL, receivers. The one good WR he gets is allowed to leave in FA.
Even if he isn’t any good, he never had a chance with that deck stacked against him. If he emerged elsewhere and was serviceable it wouldn’t shock me.
I dunno what you mean by competitive but if you put Kirk someone like Kirk cousins or Derek carr on this team, it’s still pretty bad I’d say. You can’t win with all JAGs.
What would thier record be if they had prime “would be insurance salesman” at QB right now?
ok
I guess you are not interested in my generous offer then
Maybe Zappe can save the day and go 17-11 or better
Scott my man, love seeing you too. Not enough old school guys hanging out nowadays
DeVante Parker's explanation for dropped pass made Patriots fans even angrier
DeVante Parker’s explanation for the fourth-quarter drop against the Raiders isn’t sitting well with Patriots fans.
patriotswire.usatoday.com
I dont know. If Devonte Parker catches this ball with under 2 min to play in the game, then the pats are inside the raiders territory with 1:30 left in the game and needing at least 1 more first down to set up a game winning FG.
Instead, Crosby sacks Mac a play or 2 later and the pats cant even get the cover.
