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slapshot said:
GL Ace lets both win

i got Redskins qt -4/ half -13 game -17

well slapshot tried to win em all, all that matters is the owls got blown out again... i'd play every game AGAINST temple until they finally join the MAC... wonder why they got the boot from their old conference? jus to bring down a mid major? ship em and buffalo off to the sun-belt :103631605
 

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C.P. you are right on. By chance you dont email out plays are arent up 20 units in Hockey this week are you? Well anyway, Ace you are the man and anyone that wants to sit here and bash you can go :hump: themselves. Your the man in my book! :suomi:
 

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Did you fade his MAC college basketball picks last year when he hit 66%?

No, but I have gone 3-1 fading his big money "a little birdy told me" plays. I rarely even go into the basketball forum, all I bet is football and soccer. And like i said ACE is a good capper when he posts regular plays, but like I posted in his Week 2 NFL thread, he will lead you awry with his big money "fixes". In case you're wondering the 3 games I won were today's game, the Russia-Estonia game, and the UEFA Cup Qualifying game. The game I lost was Toledo-UConn. I think DEAC is just mad because I said that this would happen 6 weeks ago:finger:
 

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i just witnessed a game that seems to god to be fixed.


UTEP/RICE


3 turnovers
14 penalties for over 120 yards
2 4th down conversions given up
1 onside kick recovered by Rice UTEP fuckers didn't even jump for the ball.

DawofDaddy called this game out as mob rig. Never believed these games existed but man this game I was able to watch on television and I really can't believe it.
 

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thanks hinds.....for bringing some sanity to this thread.....no one should disagree with what you say.....the plays lost.....for whatever reason......we all grownups or at least think we are......we play what we want......if loses, we move on....if wins, we move on.....

time to move on........btw.....cya at the next "inside" game......

aloha!

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People who follow ace....because they like shity gramr......
I get a call.....from spell check.....says ace stuuupid....ace get free hook off 3/7 even though against rule....outright lies soccer record....much betr capers here...but they are ezy2 read :think2: Oh Well..got call be bak later.

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I vowed to not get into this argument, but it's ridiculous and is a testament as to why TheRx is becoming a 2nd rate posting forum in my opinion. If this involved ANY OTHER POSTER, this thread would have been shipped to the Rubber Room, and those involved would have been threatened to be banned. And no, I haven't read the whole bullcrap on Ace-Ace being in this forum or that forum or whatever, but the truth of the matter is as such.

Ace-Ace has ONE posted winning year. I'm going to take absolutely nothing away from that year, fixes, info, capping, whatever. He definitely won last year and there was no denying it. And for that, Ace-Ace deserve congrats and thanks from the religious followers. There are many other cappers on this and other various posting forums that turn profits year after year after year, and even so, they too have downer years. Heck, my favorite NFL guy on this forum, Hansen Bros. finally broke into the black two weeks ago and is up less than 2 units on the season. Fortunately no one bashes him for losing, and I am just thankful for his time and efforts, win or lose (though of course I prefer winning), as he is better at the NFL than I am or probably ever will be. His track record clearly states that.

Ace-Ace's track record is cloudy at best, but it doesn't need to be scrutinized. I think the morale of this story once again is to be careful what plays you make and who you follow before unloading your cash. I've been around the block with Ace about inside info in soccer that I don't believe he has, but that is my opinion which I am entitled to, and SHOULD be entitled to without hearing from any of the Ace-Ace groupies that I am out of line. Once again it is proven that Ace-Ace isn't THE MAN of these forums, but a respected capper he has been.

The other key here... Ace-Ace posted that he played $3,000 on the game... which is smaller than his largest NFL bet last week of KC. If my math is correct, if you want to say $500 a unit, with his under $1500 bets being action plays (or whatever it is), this should have just been a moderate bet, no more than 6% of ones bankroll, and something that can be made up by following Ace-Ace's NFL plays on a religious basis. Anyone who took the information as anything more than that got what they deserved. I had no money on the game and won't back or fade Ace-Ace based on his posts alone because I've been smart enough to figure it all out, and I don't know why more people have.

Go ahead DEAC, bash me away after this. I don't think I said anything wrong nor was I trying to be controversial, but you'll find a way to make me look like the bad guy once again. No more for me on this issue.

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Did anyone put a gun to your head to bet TEMPLE......NO....Than shut the F up and move on...Yes it was a loser...and if they scored a backdoor TD...you all would be singing his praises, BUT they didn't...It was a selection and that's ALL.......Who does evryone like Sunday??


That should be what evryone should be intersted in!

GL to ALL of you:dancefool CALAGRY FLMAES TONIGHT!!!
 

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AFLGuru said:
I vowed to not get into this argument, but it's ridiculous and is a testament as to why TheRx is becoming a 2nd rate posting forum in my opinion. If this involved ANY OTHER POSTER, this thread would have been shipped to the Rubber Room, and those involved would have been threatened to be banned. And no, I haven't read the whole bullcrap on Ace-Ace being in this forum or that forum or whatever, but the truth of the matter is as such.


Isnt it funny that this was the same guy drawing attention to himself afew days ago with some mundane post about getting divorced or some shit like that???? Any one remember that weird story??? (I couldnt make heads or tails of it)

Am i the only one who thinks he might have been priming people...



Secondly, do you guys ever consider that some posters on the Rx intentionally start rumours about fixes to either help out books that they are secretly shilling for or even move some lines in their favor so they can grab the reverse????


You would be amazed at how far these internet postings travel...I swear i have found print out from one of the forums across the street in a las vegas hotel!!!!
 

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Wow,

Some of you guys are toasted man! Who said anything about a fix? All Ace-Ace said was ...

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by naughtydog
ACE...how do you know who the computer gang is on? where did you get that info that they are on wmich? thx
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>I GET E-MAILS AND KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS PART OF IT....

All this means is that he knows someone that either pitches (plays) or catches (takes action) for the Sharps (this is where he gets his info from according to him). That's All. You guys have to understand that the Sharps or this particular group we are talking about, might play 30 to 40 games on a given Saturday, this was only one of them. And they only hit about 57% winners, but when you have, lets say 800 large on a game, that's big money. Actually, 57% winners is a good percentage!
I myself found +23 on Temple Friday evening, and the game closed at -18 1/2 at some places, which means I had 4 1/2 points the best of it. I would play games like this all year long, because in the end, I know I would make nothing but money $$$!

Where's Eddie Rebel when you need him, I could use a laugh or two! That guy kills me!
 

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I don't care about what Ace-Ace knows or doesn't know, but I would like to know what AdBanker knows:banger: .
 

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Questions & answers

This is what I do know, some people do not need to know the answers to some questions. First off how much did ACE put on this MAC game, that had such big line movement... not to much more than any other win or loss he has had in the MAC side or total. Second he got +22.5 pretty good not quite +24 but more than +21 a prime number that nobody should bet down any lower, and what did it go down to +19. Not bad I would think... kind of like a few weeks back during a Toledo/ Temple game... which also had crazy line movement and to some was VERY profitable. Very nice window of opportunity if I do say so myself. AND I'm sure there is no reason for all that line movement in some of these beautiful MAC games. But for some odd reason there was a lot of heavy money laid on this game and should have been the same opportunity here. It was almost 3 point lead at the half, but real quick became a 10 point lead at the half and should have been 20 at the end of the game. They are not all perfect, that is why there is no and I qoute "sure thing". But do not ever compare it to the Toledo/Uconn game last year. That was a whole different animal. And by the way if there was something shady going on in a game yes you would have to have...Oh let's say a QB or 2, a couple running backs and a few receivers to drop a few passes and possibly a couple corner backs if you wanted to really affect a game. OR maybe the whole team to dump a game head coach included. But yeah Nobody on this forum would ever catch wind of something like that.

I'm AD BANKER and I did approve this message. :103631605
 

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HIS IS MY 1ST POST AND WHAT I SAID!!!!!

(THIS IS WHAT I KNOW.....

GOT 3-MAILS FROM SHARPS....THEY ARE ALL BETTING TEMPLE

MY LOCAL (BOOKIE) IS NOT PUTTING THIS GAME UP!!!

I GOT A CALL........TEMPLE IS THE PLAY

I CHECK IT OUT....BASE ON STATS......MIAMI-OHIO SHOULD KILL THEM

M-OHIO HAS DONE A DEAL BEFORE)

!)....THE 3 E-MAILS WHERE FROM PLAYERS THAT BET OVER $5000 A GAME
.......THAT'S NOT A FIX!!!!!
2).....MY LOCAL TOOK 4 GAMES OFF SAT.....THAT'S NOT A FIX!!!!!
3)....I GOT A CALL FROM SOMEONE THAT OWN'S TWO CASINO....HE SAID THAT MOSTS "SHARP" (AT LESS 5 K)...WAS ON TEMPLE...NOT A FIX!!!!!!
4) M-OHIO HAS DONE THING IN THE PAST......NOT A FIX ,,,,BUT IT MAKES YOU THINK...

I ONLY PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THIS PICK...

THIS WAS NOT A MOTOR CITY BOWL PICK...

IT WAS A 5% OF MY BANKROLL PICK!!!!

I START SOMETHING A FEW MO'S BACK CALL A WAR/ROOM....TO TALK ABOUT A GAME THAT YOU WANT TO BET....LINEMOVEMENT...A DROP IN A LINE....SOME INSIDER NEWS .."IF"....SOMEONE KNOW SOMETHING....AND I KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE RX (BECAUSE WE OFTEN HERE WHAT PEOPLE SAY WITHOUT HEARING WHAT THEY MEAN)....
YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT......I NEVER SAID FIX IN THIS GAME.....MY BET WAS BASE ON ONLY 4 THING 1...2...3.....4....

THE MOTOR CITY BOWL WAS BASE ON ONE THING

THIS HAS NOT BEEN MY BEST YEAR FOR LOT OF REASON....BUT....I'M STILL UP.......YES I LOST THIS GAME......YES...I WAS ON THE SIDE THAT SHOULD OF KEEP IT CLOSER.....IT'S ONLY ONE BET.....AND I'M IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL....NOT THE SHORT BATTLES

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

ACE-ACE
 

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ONE MORE THING
THOSE THAT THINK I'M THE PIED PIPER LEADING PEOPLE ASTRAY AGAIN...

I'M NOT A SQ PLAYER ...BUT A SHARP PLAYER...I TAKE MY STAND(BET)...ON EACH GAME....AS FOR THIS YEAR...YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN TO FADE SOMEONE....THAT MAKES YOU A GOOD CAPPER TO....
I'M HERE TO SHOW YOU MY BETS (WIN OR LOSE).....IF I LOSE MY 50K THIS YEAR SO BE IT...I WILL STILL POST MY PLAYS UP TO MY LAST PENNY,THAN I'M DONE.(MADE OVER 80K LAST YEAR SO WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSES)
THIS FORUM LETS YOU POST YOUR PICK AND BASE ON WHAT I KNOW. ONLY 10% OF THE PLAYERS ON THIS FORUM WINS MONEY.
BASHING GOES IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER FOR ME.....I KNOW WHO I 'M AND I KNOW WHAT I CAN DO....

ACE-ACE
 

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Article posted by Quick Nick over at SCI. Pretty interesting....

These people must be stupid, if anyone gambles and does not know they have cheating going on in college atheletics, they need to get their head out of the sand to put it lightly!!!

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[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]BOOKMAKERS HANG DARK CLOUD OVER MAC GAMES, ESPECIALLY TOLEDO… [/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]While bookmakers have no evidence of wrong doing they are still focusing a tremendous amount of attention to what they say are strange betting patterns in the Mid-American Conference, especially those involving Toledo.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bookmakers say there has been a tremendous amount of line manipulation in the MAC this season and they point to two Saturday games as examples of that. Toledo opened a -10 road favorite at Central Michigan and has been bet down to -7½. In a second game they are watching, Western Michigan opened a -4 home favorite over Kent State and has been bet out to -7.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Pointspread shifts such as this are not uncommon but bookmakers say it is happening too often on MAC games and they have the evidence to prove it, as they have been hit hard by “middle” bettors. For those not familiar with the term, a “middle” bettor is one who bets both sides in the same game, laying different prices and then hoping the game falls between that which he gave and that which he took. When that happens he collects both bets.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For instance, if the Toledo-Central Michigan final score falls on an 8 or 9-point difference middle bettors will win on both sides. If the Kent State-Western Michigan falls on a 5 or a 6, they will also collect both bets.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bookmakers have already been stung twice this season with Toledo—first in the Rockets game at Temple on September 17 and again on their game at Ball State two weeks ago.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the Temple game, Toledo opened a 30-point favorite and was bet down to -24½. The final score was 42-17, which meant the Rockets won by 25 and the game fell in the middle. This game costs bookmakers tens of thousands of dollars.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the Ball State game, Toledo opened -19½ and was bet out to -23½. The Rockets won that on by 20 points, 34-14, again putting the game in the middle and cost bookmakers another small fortune.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ODDS AGAINST SAME TEAM PRODUCING MULTIPLE
MIDDLES ASTRONOMICAL…
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[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bookmakers say the odds of one team producing two middle winners during a single season are astronomical and the heavy two-way action on both games was traced to a small group of individuals, all of whom knew one another.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"We may look stupid, but we're not," said one bookmaker from Antigua, "And we will get to the bottom of this."[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The mechanics of middle betting tell the entire story, since a middle gives a player 20-1 for his money in a world where most bets return even money on a winning wager. Here is how the middle works, using the Temple-Toledo game as an example.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bettors would take Temple +30 and then bet in a manner that gave the appearance of continued action on the underdog. When they felt their actions had driven the number as far as it would go, they would step in and bet Toledo -24 ½.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The math is simple: If a person bet $110,000 to win $100,000 on Temple +30 and then made a similar bet on Toledo -24 ½, he is risking just $10,000 to win $200,000 because it is impossible to lose both bets. If the game falls in the middle of the +30 and the -24 ½, he collects $200,000, or gets 20-1 for his money. [/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bookmakers have their own crew of investigators studying every aspect of any game with a suspicious betting pattern; from who officiated the games to how touchdowns were scored and if there were bogus penalties or turnovers at key points of the game.[/FONT]
[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We will keep you informed, but in the meantime, this is one handicapper who is staying away from MAC games. It is an understatement in the world of sports betting to say rather safe than sorry.[/FONT]

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ANYWHERE YOU HAVE HUGH AMOUNTS OF CASH AND GAMBLING INVOLVED YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE CHEATING.

JUST THINK ABOUT THIS......... YOU ARE A 18 OR 19 YEAR OLD KID PLAYING FOOTBALL IN COLLEGE OR BASKETBALL FOR THAT MATTER AND SOMEONE APPROACHES YOU WITH A DEAL WHERE YOU CAN MAKE $10,000.00 CASH JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T WIN A GAME THIS WEEKEND BY MORE THAN 23 POINTS AND YOU ARE A 24 POINT FAVORITE, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS BROKE KID IS GOING TO DO???????? HE IS GOING TO WIN THE GAME AND MAKE DAMN SURE HE DOES NOT WIN BY MORE THAN 23 POINTS.

HE MAKES $10,000.00 CASH AND THE GUY THAT FIXES THE GAME BETS $100,000.00 ON THE GAME AND MAKES $90,000.00. FOR 3 HOURS OF WORK IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. NOW YOU SAY, HEY WHAT IF THE KID DOES NOT GO FOR THE FIX, THEN WHAT?????? YOU THREATHEN HIS PARENTS AND TELL THE KID TO TAKE THE MONEY AND WIN THE GAME BY 23 OR LESS. wHAT KID WILL NOT DO IT IF SOMEONE THREATHENS HIS PARENTS OR WIFE AND CHILD, A LOT OF COLLEGE ATHELETES HAVE FAMILIES AT THE AGE OF 18 OR 19. THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF WAYS TO FIX A COLLEGE SPORTING EVENT AND THOUSANDS OF aTHELETES TO HELP FIX THEM FOR MONEY!!!

JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, IT MAKES PLENTY OF SENSE TO ME.

THEY HAVE TOO MANY KIDS THAT YOU CAN GET TO AND FIX A GAME IN COLLEGE........... ON ANY GIVEN WEEKEND YOU HAVE 50 GAMES OR MORE THAT HAVE LINES ON THEM IN NCAA FOOTBALL
 

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[font=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This game costs bookmakers tens of thousands of dollars.[/font]

Nice that the tables turned on this one, bookies and casinos dont make a living actually paying out
 

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