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4.Alive,never really imprisoned
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The man pulled from the hole was Saddam right?
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Come on Base. I answered your question. Now answer mine before we go into that.
Do you believe that Saddam Hussein employed DOUBLES?
Yes or No?
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4.Alive,never really imprisoned
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The man pulled from the hole was Saddam right?
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Come on Base. I answered your question. Now answer mine before we go into that.
Do you believe that Saddam Hussein employed DOUBLES?
Yes or No?
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4.Alive,never really imprisoned
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The man pulled from the hole was Saddam right?
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Come on Base. I answered your question. Now answer mine before we go into that.
Do you believe that Saddam Hussein employed DOUBLES?
Yes or No?
He actually did answer that. Do you know? the fact that he employed body doubles doesn't prove he wasn't captured.
I'm thinking his body doubles stopped acting like body doubles once the war broke out, but that's just me. I'm thinking they would go back to being themselves out of fear that they would be captured and killed. Of course, that might make too much sense for some to comprehend.
you're getting it backwards
why the fuck would anybody still be acting like a body double when it's obvious the game is over? so they could get captured and die? possibly tortured mercilessly if captured by the wrong people?
so where did Adolf live and prosper after WWII? I know you can't possibly believe he died in a bunker.
well, when the boss is on the run and in hiding
1) I doubt he's watching the double
2) you know the double is not getting paid
3) WTF is a dead man walking going to do? if he showed his head, Iraqis, Al-Q and the Americans would all be happy to see him.
There ain't no way anybody was working for him and risking their life to protect him. By the time the cave dweller was caught, he had no power.
1) I doubt he's watching the double
2) you know the double is not getting paid
3) WTF is a dead man walking going to do? if he showed his head, Iraqis, Al-Q and the Americans would all be happy to see him.
There ain't no way anybody was working for him and risking their life to protect him. By the time the cave dweller was caught, he had no power.
It's so obvious it was Saddam who was pulled out of that hole. And it was obvious it was Saddam, still in his meglomaniacal state, disrupting all his courtroom procedings with his rants. And it was Saddam who was hung, and who is being rehung again and again as he so deserves in post #40.
The same delusional "9/11 was a mirage/Bush conspiracy" kooks are saying Saddam was alive, and imploring the rest of us to "stop being so naive" -- Imagine that!
The same delusional "9/11 was a mirage/Bush conspiracy" kooks are saying Saddam was alive, and imploring the rest of us to "stop being so naive" -- Imagine that!
Saddam's wife could not recognize her husband
Maxim Pogodin -- Pravda 04/13/2004
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1703
Last week, American authorities arranged a meeting of the former Iraqi dictator with his wife.
She was the first of Hussein"s relatives to meet with the ex-leader of Iraq at a new place, at the American military base in Qatar. Accompanied by Sheikh Hamad Al-Tani, Sajida Heiralla Tuffah has arrived from Syria on his private jet in the end of March.
The outcome of their meeting turned out to be quite scandalous. Sajina claims that the person she encountered was not her husband, but his double. If someone were to say for sure that it was not insinuation, it would have been easy to believe the wife with a 25-year experience. It is also possible to assume that Saddam has simply changed since the day of his sons' deaths, June 24 2003. This however is highly unlikely. In case we believe Hussein"s wife, all DNA testing of the ex-Iraqi leader should be considered a mere fake. Overall, today there remain more questions then there are answers.
On the other hand however, those statements of Hussein's wife can in fact be quite understandable. After all, this is the easiest way to demoralize an enemy.
Hussein's younger daughter Hala has also arrived at the base in Qatar along with Saddam Hussein's two grandsons and two sisters, total of eight people. They were all invited by Shekh"s wife Muza to stay in one of the palaces. Eldest daughters Ragad and Rada along with five Hussein"s grandchildren have recently arrived to Doha from Jordan.
"Elaf" newspaper writes that, most likely, the entire Hussein's family will stay in Qatar permanently.
Saddam Hussein was captured by the American forces in December 2003 and held in one of the palaces in Baghdad in a region controlled by the coalition forces. Afterward, due to security reasons, he was transferred to the American military base in Qatar, where he is expected to remain until the trial.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/12494_saddam.html
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=1902
Iraqis Doubt Real Hussein Behind Bars
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1363
Yes, but Where Are the Saddam Look-Alikes?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=742
Maxim Pogodin -- Pravda 04/13/2004
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1703
Last week, American authorities arranged a meeting of the former Iraqi dictator with his wife.
She was the first of Hussein"s relatives to meet with the ex-leader of Iraq at a new place, at the American military base in Qatar. Accompanied by Sheikh Hamad Al-Tani, Sajida Heiralla Tuffah has arrived from Syria on his private jet in the end of March.
The outcome of their meeting turned out to be quite scandalous. Sajina claims that the person she encountered was not her husband, but his double. If someone were to say for sure that it was not insinuation, it would have been easy to believe the wife with a 25-year experience. It is also possible to assume that Saddam has simply changed since the day of his sons' deaths, June 24 2003. This however is highly unlikely. In case we believe Hussein"s wife, all DNA testing of the ex-Iraqi leader should be considered a mere fake. Overall, today there remain more questions then there are answers.
On the other hand however, those statements of Hussein's wife can in fact be quite understandable. After all, this is the easiest way to demoralize an enemy.
Hussein's younger daughter Hala has also arrived at the base in Qatar along with Saddam Hussein's two grandsons and two sisters, total of eight people. They were all invited by Shekh"s wife Muza to stay in one of the palaces. Eldest daughters Ragad and Rada along with five Hussein"s grandchildren have recently arrived to Doha from Jordan.
"Elaf" newspaper writes that, most likely, the entire Hussein's family will stay in Qatar permanently.
Saddam Hussein was captured by the American forces in December 2003 and held in one of the palaces in Baghdad in a region controlled by the coalition forces. Afterward, due to security reasons, he was transferred to the American military base in Qatar, where he is expected to remain until the trial.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/366/12494_saddam.html
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=1902
Iraqis Doubt Real Hussein Behind Bars
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1363
Yes, but Where Are the Saddam Look-Alikes?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=742
Iraqis Doubt Real Hussein Behind Bars
Baghdad — Jassim Abu Ahmed almost spits his disgust at the television set showing yet another image of the dazed and bedraggled Saddam Hussein.
"It's not him," Mr. Ahmed says, waving his hand and looking away from the screen. "Everybody knows it's not him. Why do they keep showing this?"
While Iraq's new leaders are planning for what they have dubbed "the trial of the century" and claiming a great victory over the Baathist remnants that are still fighting the U.S.-led occupation, many Iraqis remain deeply skeptical that the former dictator has been caught.
In a country where the press was always controlled by the state, and that is now occupied by a foreign power, people have learned not to trust what they see or hear in the media.
And after watching television news reports during the war that talked of Iraqi military victories — even as U.S. troops were entering Baghdad — many now believe they're still being fed lies. A fuel tanker that exploded in Baghdad Wednesday, killing 10, was first reported as another suicide bombing — then downgraded by U.S. military officials to a mere accident, further adding to the disbelief surrounding Mr. Hussein's arrest.
Some even saw the report of an eyewitness who has seen Mr. Hussein as part of the grand plan, disbelieving it when Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a member of the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council who was among the handful of people who have visited the ex-dictator since his weekend arrest, went on television Wednesday to announce that Mr. Hussein was "still in greater Baghdad" and would remain in the capital until his trial.
Mr. Ahmed, an athlete who knew Mr. Hussein's oldest son Uday personally, says he is positive the person the United States is parading as their prize catch is not the former dictator. Mr. Hussein is known to have a tiny tattoo on his left hand, but in the relentlessly replayed video that shows him having his throat checked by a U.S. Army medic — the video that most of the world accepts as footage of the humbled former dictator — the markings are not apparent as Mr. Hussein strokes his straggly beard.
It's not the only detail that disbelievers have seized on. Others find it strange that Mr. Hussein's hair is black in the footage, but his beard is white.
"Everyone knows that Saddam dyes his hair, but after eight months hiding in a hole, it's still black?" asked Diaa, a 37-year-old taxi driver who gave only his first name. "Tell me how this is possible. When they captured [former information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf] after a few weeks, his hair was already white."
Some, like Mr. Ahmed, believe the ex-dictator's dead sons are also alive, and that the whole family has struck a deal with U.S. President George W. Bush to live abroad in secret exile.
The rumours have also allowed those who have been fighting in Mr. Hussein's name to draw continued inspiration.
Rumours that the man captured was a look-alike sparked celebratory riots this week in the Sunni Muslim town of Fallujah.
"It is someone wearing a Saddam mask," 25-year-old tire repairman Waleed Ibrahim told Associated Press in Fallujah yesterday. "It is a trick to help President Bush get re-elected."
U.S. armoured vehicles rolled down the town's main street, blaring messages to the contrary.
"The coalition forces have arrested Saddam Hussein. Reports that it is a Saddam double are false," a voice declared in Arabic from a loudspeaker. "The old regime will never come back. This is the end of the Baath Party."
Mark MacKinnon – Globe and Mail December 18, 2003
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031218.wiraq-saddam1218/BNStory/International/
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031218.wiraq-saddam1218/BNStory/International/
Baghdad — Jassim Abu Ahmed almost spits his disgust at the television set showing yet another image of the dazed and bedraggled Saddam Hussein.
"It's not him," Mr. Ahmed says, waving his hand and looking away from the screen. "Everybody knows it's not him. Why do they keep showing this?"
While Iraq's new leaders are planning for what they have dubbed "the trial of the century" and claiming a great victory over the Baathist remnants that are still fighting the U.S.-led occupation, many Iraqis remain deeply skeptical that the former dictator has been caught.
In a country where the press was always controlled by the state, and that is now occupied by a foreign power, people have learned not to trust what they see or hear in the media.
And after watching television news reports during the war that talked of Iraqi military victories — even as U.S. troops were entering Baghdad — many now believe they're still being fed lies. A fuel tanker that exploded in Baghdad Wednesday, killing 10, was first reported as another suicide bombing — then downgraded by U.S. military officials to a mere accident, further adding to the disbelief surrounding Mr. Hussein's arrest.
Some even saw the report of an eyewitness who has seen Mr. Hussein as part of the grand plan, disbelieving it when Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a member of the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council who was among the handful of people who have visited the ex-dictator since his weekend arrest, went on television Wednesday to announce that Mr. Hussein was "still in greater Baghdad" and would remain in the capital until his trial.
Mr. Ahmed, an athlete who knew Mr. Hussein's oldest son Uday personally, says he is positive the person the United States is parading as their prize catch is not the former dictator. Mr. Hussein is known to have a tiny tattoo on his left hand, but in the relentlessly replayed video that shows him having his throat checked by a U.S. Army medic — the video that most of the world accepts as footage of the humbled former dictator — the markings are not apparent as Mr. Hussein strokes his straggly beard.
It's not the only detail that disbelievers have seized on. Others find it strange that Mr. Hussein's hair is black in the footage, but his beard is white.
"Everyone knows that Saddam dyes his hair, but after eight months hiding in a hole, it's still black?" asked Diaa, a 37-year-old taxi driver who gave only his first name. "Tell me how this is possible. When they captured [former information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf] after a few weeks, his hair was already white."
Some, like Mr. Ahmed, believe the ex-dictator's dead sons are also alive, and that the whole family has struck a deal with U.S. President George W. Bush to live abroad in secret exile.
The rumours have also allowed those who have been fighting in Mr. Hussein's name to draw continued inspiration.
Rumours that the man captured was a look-alike sparked celebratory riots this week in the Sunni Muslim town of Fallujah.
"It is someone wearing a Saddam mask," 25-year-old tire repairman Waleed Ibrahim told Associated Press in Fallujah yesterday. "It is a trick to help President Bush get re-elected."
U.S. armoured vehicles rolled down the town's main street, blaring messages to the contrary.
"The coalition forces have arrested Saddam Hussein. Reports that it is a Saddam double are false," a voice declared in Arabic from a loudspeaker. "The old regime will never come back. This is the end of the Baath Party."
Jackie does have a way with words
"It's not him," Mr. Ahmed says, waving his hand and looking away from the screen. "Everybody knows it's not him. Why do they keep showing this?"
BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE STUPID. THEY WANT TO BEIEVE IT WAS HIM THEY PULLED OUT OF THAT RAT HOLE LOOKING ALL EMBARRASED AND HUMBLED AND CONFUSED.
DO YOU REALLY THINK HE WAS "ON HIS OWN" HIDING IN SOMEONES BACKYARD?
DO YOU REALLY THINK SADDAM WOULD ALLOW HIMSELF TO BE TAKEN ALIVE?
IT WAS ALL STAGED. FROM THE CAPTURE TO THE HANGING.
THIS MAN WITH THE 2 YEAR OLD BEARD IS NOT SADDAM. ID LIKE TO SEE YOU GROW THAT LENGHTH BEARD IN 7 MONTHS.
BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE STUPID. THEY WANT TO BEIEVE IT WAS HIM THEY PULLED OUT OF THAT RAT HOLE LOOKING ALL EMBARRASED AND HUMBLED AND CONFUSED.
DO YOU REALLY THINK HE WAS "ON HIS OWN" HIDING IN SOMEONES BACKYARD?
DO YOU REALLY THINK SADDAM WOULD ALLOW HIMSELF TO BE TAKEN ALIVE?
IT WAS ALL STAGED. FROM THE CAPTURE TO THE HANGING.
THIS MAN WITH THE 2 YEAR OLD BEARD IS NOT SADDAM. ID LIKE TO SEE YOU GROW THAT LENGHTH BEARD IN 7 MONTHS.
