looking for advice about casinos

[WVU]

you are a tool. Many casinos have roulette tracker sheets. so you lie to your gf as well as yourself. I see. Please don't let her read this thread. Keep her in the dark about your problem with grasping reality.

The reference to the roulette board and tracker sheets is to show you that you are not alone in the belief that random numbers can be tracked and streaks and trends can be identified beforehand. Keep following your gut instincts. They are strong. The force is with you. Don't give in to the dark side.

 

[vanzack]

I'll bet you that you can't flip a coin and have it land on heads or tails 50 consecutive times. Put your money where your fat mouth is.[/quote]

:lolBIG: :lol:

That has to be one of the funniest wager propositions I have ever heard in my life. He wants to challenge you that you can beat odds well in to the 20 digits (ie xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx - 1).

How about I offer you a wager. A more realistic wager. Simply explain how you can turn a series of negative EV bets in to a positive EV. SIMPLE. I will give you 100-1 odds and I will bet you whatever you want.

 

[heatohio]

I'll bet you that you can't flip a coin and have it land on heads or tails 50 consecutive times. Put your money where your fat mouth is.[/quote]

:lolBIG: :lol:

That has to be one of the funniest wager propositions I have ever heard in my life. He wants to challenge you that you can beat odds well in to the 20 digits (ie xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx - 1).

How about I offer you a wager. A more realistic wager. Simply explain how you can turn a series of negative EV bets in to a positive EV. SIMPLE. I will give you 100-1 odds and I will bet you whatever you want.

According to math each flip has a 50/50 chance at landing on heads or tails. Therefore flipping a coin 50 times should give you the same chance at heads 50 times or tails 50 times. Or are you talking about the probability of any one event happening over and over???? My god I think you are.

 

[heatohio]

you are a tool. Many casinos have roulette tracker sheets. so you lie to your gf as well as yourself. I see. Please don't let her read this thread. Keep her in the dark about your problem with grasping reality.

The reference to the roulette board and tracker sheets is to show you that you are not alone in the belief that random numbers can be tracked and streaks and trends can be identified beforehand. Keep following your gut instincts. They are strong. The force is with you. Don't give in to the dark side.

What do I lie to my GF about??? I have never seen the tracker sheets at roulette wheels. Maybe because I'm not dumb enough to play roulette, especially online.:lol:

 

[X-Files]

First of all, you could have 40,000 posts and be as green as can be or you could have 3 posts and be a pro gambler. Posts on a stupid forum and your ability to gamble have nothing to do with each other. I'm telling you about real world experience. I've been gambling for over 9 years (I'm nearly 29 and have been gambling since 19 going up to Niagara Falls) A lot of this time I was the typical gambler (never played slots though) I played roulette, did not know even basic stratagy on blackjack never even looked at the craps table. I was happy to lose my money as long as I had fun doing it. About 3 years ago I started playing craps. I met someone at the Seneca NY casino that played the way I play now. He claimed that he usually won and I saw him winning. Since then I have been playing that certain way and have almost always won. Dicipline, money management and my way of playing equals winning. I'm sorry that you don't believe that anyone can win.

How is the way you play now? I'm sure some here would like to put it
to the test and see if it really works.

 

[heatohio]

How is the way you play now? I'm sure some here would like to put it
to the test and see if it really works.

It is really simple, not much of a system, just a conservative way to play. All I do is place the 5-9 and call them off after two rolls, win or push. I can't count the times that people 7 out on the third roll or 4th roll. I only aim to win about 10-15% of my bankroll at any given table. After that I leave and move on. It has worked for about 3 years at the very least of monthly playing, and about a year of twice a week play. I've been to Vegas about 4 times since I started playing like this and win at nearly every casino that I enter. It is not big money, but it is still a profit. My bankroll is not huge so I bet a conservative amount of money. Go ahead and give it a test. I also set a loss limit as well. Usually about 25% of my bankroll before I move on to a different table or different casino.

 

[Kruser6]

It is really simple, not much of a system, just a conservative way to play. All I do is place the 5-9 and call them off after two rolls, win or push. I can't count the times that people 7 out on the third roll or 4th roll. I only aim to win about 10-15% of my bankroll at any given table. After that I leave and move on. It has worked for about 3 years at the very least of monthly playing, and about a year of twice a week play. I've been to Vegas about 4 times since I started playing like this and win at nearly every casino that I enter. It is not big money, but it is still a profit. My bankroll is not huge so I bet a conservative amount of money. Go ahead and give it a test. I also set a loss limit as well. Usually about 25% of my bankroll before I move on to a different table or different casino.

Please answer me this. If this is +EV then why leave? If this system works so well, then why wouldn't you continue to play it over and over and over? You CAN NOT answer this question without admitting that you are wrong! You leave because you are playing in a neg ev expectations!

 

[Kruser6]

That is just like me saying that I walk around to the roulette tables, look at the history. Every time the ball has rolled red/black 5 times in a row I put a bet down on the opposite. I do this twice, and then I leave. This works, and I have won thousands with this GREAT SYSTEM! The casinos have'nt figured it out yet, so please keep this on the DL:lol:

 

[vanzack]

It is really simple, not much of a system, just a conservative way to play. All I do is place the 5-9 and call them off after two rolls, win or push. I can't count the times that people 7 out on the third roll or 4th roll. I only aim to win about 10-15% of my bankroll at any given table. After that I leave and move on. It has worked for about 3 years at the very least of monthly playing, and about a year of twice a week play. I've been to Vegas about 4 times since I started playing like this and win at nearly every casino that I enter. It is not big money, but it is still a profit. My bankroll is not huge so I bet a conservative amount of money. Go ahead and give it a test. I also set a loss limit as well. Usually about 25% of my bankroll before I move on to a different table or different casino.

If this isnt proof that you have zero knowledge of how probability works, then I dont know what is.

Quotes like "I can't count the times that people 7 out on the third roll or 4th roll" are a casinos wet dream and why some people continuously lose gambling. The fact that you think there somehow is a greater chance of a 7 on the 3rd or 4th roll vs the 1st, 2nd, or 50th is all you need to say in order for everyone to understand that we are dealing with someone with no grasp on reality.

Also, your imaginary time frame of leaving after you are up 10-15% have no bearing on reality either. The laws of science and probability state that from the first craps roll of your life until the last craps roll of your life, its one giant session. The dice dont have memory. The fact that you have convinced yourself that by leaving after winning 10% is somehow beneficial to you is comical if it wasnt so sad. The very next time you go to the table, whether its in 5 minutes or 5 years, your odds are exactly the same on the next roll. Moving to another table or another casino or another city or another time have no bearing on your overall EV.

And your strategy of placing the 5 and 9 at a 7-5 payback (when true odds are 7.5-5) only adds to the stupidity of your strategy. There are much better odds on the table than placing the 5 and 9. Why would you choose the 5 and 9? The fact that when you are presented with numerous options and you pick one of the worst, only further shows how ridiculous you and your strategy is.

You are young and very naive and it will take a learning experience for you to realize how wrong you are about all of this. If you continue, it will definitely come. Just a matter of time.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Try all the sports forums. I actually post plays and talk sports. You guys just stick around in here and act like you know everything. I've never seen you post a play once.

Actually, this is a good post.

Alot of guys here posting daily act like they know alot, but Ive never seen them post a pick or anything useful.

This offshore forum has dozens of these types of posters.

At least you post picks.

Eventhough you can sometimes be an over the top asshole, you do post plays, and thats more than alot of guys here that post 99% drivel.

 

[Hal01]

A lot of this time I was the typical gambler (never played slots though) I played roulette,

I have never seen the tracker sheets at roulette wheels. Maybe because I'm not dumb enough to play roulette,

:think2: :think2: :think2:

 

[gbogo]

heatohio

i think the difference between you and me is that i have played professionally at the casino and you havent.

my results are with real funds doing nothing else but paying bills from profits at the casino

its true i didnt play craps because I couldnt see how its possible to bet that game everyday and defeat the nature of the game.

blackjack ive stated many times playing on my own - what tended to happen was it came down to just a few hands with large sums of money on the table and it reduced the hourly rate to something i couldnt justify. if i had a team i think the results would have been better

roulette however was the one game that I had a considerably edge in. if you can have discpline and identify an advantaged situation for 5-6 spins it is alot more profitable. thats how I made my money

everyone has their own story and I really dont give a crap about bonus whores, I try to find a way to win based on how the game is played- if I cant beat it I dont play.

 

[vanzack]

heatohio

i think the difference between you and me is that i have played professionally at the casino and you havent.

my results are with real funds doing nothing else but paying bills from profits at the casino

its true i didnt play craps because I couldnt see how its possible to bet that game everyday and defeat the nature of the game.

blackjack ive stated many times playing on my own - what tended to happen was it came down to just a few hands with large sums of money on the table and it reduced the hourly rate to something i couldnt justify. if i had a team i think the results would have been better

roulette however was the one game that I had a considerably edge in. if you can have discpline and identify an advantaged situation for 5-6 spins it is alot more profitable. thats how I made my money

everyone has their own story and I really dont give a crap about bonus whores, I try to find a way to win based on how the game is played- if I cant beat it I dont play.

OK I'll bite.

How do you get an advantage situation in roulette? Do you mean you found biased wheels that werent balanced or something?

Im curious about your explanation.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Id also like to know this winning roulette system.

 

[X-Files]

roulette however was the one game that I had a considerably edge in. if you can have discpline and identify an advantaged situation for 5-6 spins it is alot more profitable. thats how I made my money

How do you identify an advantaged situation? Hit Red after the table
spins 12 Blacks in a row?

 

[gbogo]

how i look at it is this way

the table is broken into sections

i identify the pattern and bet that number

for example....

the next result should be 1st dozen, black, even , 3rd column

on a single zero roulette wheel the only number it can be is 6

what you have to be able to do it track the individual patterns combine them to the target number.


havent you ever wondered how when someone plays the entire board with chips except one number it hits that one number ? for me its naive to think that in a game where you bet 1 number and receive 35-1 for that result that you cant beat the game.

the bigger question is do you believe patterns exist in nature, markets and numbers. im not arguing its not a game that if you play normally without narrowing it down you can beat - the house edge will beat you. but if you identify the pattern you can hit 5-10 numbers in a row. then they will change dealers.

it may take hours to identify the right pattern and it be strong enough to bet.

 

[gbogo]

also some casinos have many single zero tables there you get your information faster

but like the grand in tunica or niagara falls they only have 1 table. so it can take time to get the information you need and you have to start over when dealers change.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Im going to defer to Vanzack and X-files to comment about this.

:howdy:

 

[X-Files]

also some casinos have many single zero tables there you get your information faster

but like the grand in tunica or niagara falls they only have 1 table. so it can take time to get the information you need and you have to start over when dealers change.

Do you have a team to watch all the tables?

 

[bulldog77]

I lie to his girlfriend all the time. That bitch will believe any thing!