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it fucking doesn't work in the US

and you'd basically have to throw everybody outta washington including the lobbyists...that ain't gonna happen if your hero obama gets in

we the US subsidizes their socialism

ron paul and obama complete polar opposites

no clue how you support both make no sense at all

tizzie we'll agree to disagree. i like efficient government that is not the US. you dont like gov.
 

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tizzie we'll agree to disagree. i like efficient government that is not the US. you dont like gov.

your comparing apples to oranges

i could rant on and on again about why but i've done it so many times before

completely different economies...not even remotely similiar
 

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Did you know?

1) that if you take more money from corporations, people lose jobs?

2) if corporations don't have money for R & D, people lose jobs?

3) if corporations can't pay dividends, they lose venture capital, working capital, they can't do R & D and people lose jobs?

4) if people lose jobs, people buy less stuff, corporations lose more money, all income tax revenues go down and people lose jobs?

Our government has enough money already, we need to SPEND LESS.
 

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also the socialists ignore the american structure

we have socialism at the state level we pay state taxes some states like fl (old rich people) and nevada (gambling) don't need it but they all have sales taxes etc too...

the system was setup to keep the socialism LOCAL that's where it belongs i have no problems with paying state taxes i would much rather pay the state income tax than pay a federal income tax because i'm almost sure the money will be better well spent for the needs of my state

if you give somebody in washington a blank check with vested interests in its pockets that the average joe is too far away from to say anything do you think they are gonna spend our money more inefficiently

than local legislature??? close to the source??

its maddening people don't understand the big picture

europe right now is like a collection of states in the US but instead we have this huge overhanging tax and spend beuracracy

although the EU slowly moving our direction with big government saying what's right for all the countries
 

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Our government has enough money already, we need to SPEND LESS.

actually its nearing 10 trillion in debt it has no money only debt since it continues to spend more than it brings in :howdy:
 

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i might leave but for complete opposite reason of the socialists LOL

searching for less of it on top of all the fascist shit that keeps piling up

plus socialism isn't bad on a small scale like a new zealand

its bad in the case of the US when you also have a 2nd layer of it at the state level

the bigger the country the worse socialism works as the money gets further away from the source
 

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actually its nearing 10 trillion in debt it has no money only debt since it continues to spend more than it brings in :howdy:


OK, our country has enough "revenue" already, we need to spend less.
 

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kingbill, youd agree with me right.

canada>us

I wouldn't give ya a nickel for Canada.

The Wisconsin National Guard can take the whole shit by noon any day of the week.

Go! Fightin Badgers! :lol:
 

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socialism in europe works because we are their military

gtc is a confused individual and trying to converse with him is futile
 

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Anyone know if the gov't is still double taxing dividend income; once at the corporate level and again at the individual level?
 

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the taxation today is the most investor in the stock market friendly (low taxes) it has been in a long long time

due to the bush tax cuts

the problem isn't taxes

the problem is spending

if you want low taxes

start screaming for cuts across the board at the federal level
 

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the taxation today is the most investor in the stock market friendly (low taxes) it has been in a long long time

due to the bush tax cuts

the problem isn't taxes

the problem is spending

if you want low taxes

start screaming for cuts across the board at the federal level

People don't want cuts tiz...thats the problem.

They want YOU to make cuts...but don't you dare cut into their pet projects and bennies.

We are all fooling ourselves. We are all spoiled.
 

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Cut the spending and the taxation. Individuals and entreprenuers can run an economy much better than any central planning mechanisms or foolish politicans.
 

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any extremism is rubbish

you paultards and libertarians believe in some unattainable utopia through business without regulation

gibberish
 

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any extremism is rubbish

you paultards and libertarians believe in some unattainable utopia through business without regulation

gibberish

You socialists believe in some unattainable utpoia through government. Europe actually tries your method and it doesn't work. They still have poor people, unemployment, high prices, etc. etc. etc.
 

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Im far from a socialist

believe it or not I don't have to agree with you, im conservative

the world is black and white in your eyes, so far from the truth

lol
 

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We are all fooling ourselves. We are all spoiled.

you summed up well why i am tizgloom

and this goes beyond government

personal finances are treated in a similar manner
 

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Anyone know if the gov't is still double taxing dividend income; once at the corporate level and again at the individual level?

yes, although W has made dividends subjected to long-term capital gains rate, they're still taxed twice.

still not enough for many around here who are looking for an increase in corporate tax rates and repeal of W's tax cut on dividends.

Fewer jobs, less working capital and reduce investment incentive doesn't mean too much to too many, something I just can't comprehend.
 

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