Kyler Murray or Josh Rosen - who will have the better NFL career?

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Oh, you're happy just making the playoffs

Never mind


Geeze. Yeah. We can’t all expect to make the super bowl every single year.

I am happy with winning the division and a couple playoff games

your post right there is why everyone hates patriot fans
 

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Geeze. Yeah. We can’t all expect to make the super bowl every single year.

I am happy with winning the division and a couple playoff games

your post right there is why everyone hates patriot fans

Your post is, as a Bears fan and a football fan, I hope that if the Bears don't win the SB, the Pats do.
 
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That's not a novel idea about Brady.

Talk to Choptalk. He beat you by a couple of years.

But you both couldn't be more wrong.

Brady will finish his career as a Patriot whenever he decides. Period.
 

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He's going somewhere as Miami will draft a quarterback and it will be deja vu all over again. No idea why Miami picked him up in the first place as their strategy was tanking for the entire season. It turned out that they had a QB on the roster who would not let that happen.
 
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He's going somewhere as Miami will draft a quarterback and it will be deja vu all over again. No idea why Miami picked him up in the first place as their strategy was tanking for the entire season. It turned out that they had a QB on the roster who would not let that happen.


Because front offices tank. Players don’t. They knew he was the worst the league maybe has ever seen. He’s so bad it’s astonishing. And remember Enflameo was high on this guy coming out of college LOL
 

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I don't think Rosen is terrible...he just doesn't really care about football. That was true at UCLA and is true today. Not even interesting to figure out where he goes next because it just doesn't matter. More interested in where Fitz-magic goes next year.
 
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I don't think Rosen is terrible...he just doesn't really care about football. That was true at UCLA and is true today. Not even interesting to figure out where he goes next because it just doesn't matter. More interested in where Fitz-magic goes next year.


I think that’s his personality. He thought he was the greatest ever when he was at UCLA though. He had good stats. He had good highlight games. Big comebacks. But he has the toughness of a 4 year old. He’s not mentally prepared for the position. His foot work and timing is not very good either. Also about as mobile as a snail. He sucks. Remember he said he was going to prove that the 10 teams in front of him made a mistake....

Enflameo liked him coming out and thought he had a brighter future than Lamar....enough said
 

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I think that’s his personality. He thought he was the greatest ever when he was at UCLA though. He had good stats. He had good highlight games. Big comebacks. But he has the toughness of a 4 year old. He’s not mentally prepared for the position. His foot work and timing is not very good either. Also about as mobile as a snail. He sucks. Remember he said he was going to prove that the 10 teams in front of him made a mistake....

Enflameo liked him coming out and thought he had a brighter future than Lamar....enough said

I hate the tanking mindset by teams. Youre correct as its not the players, its management. Would you want to play for Miami? They would be lucky to get a DB as good with the draft pick they received for the one who went to Pitt.
 
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I am a dolphins fan.

I was happy when they traded for Rosen ONLY b/c it was a low risk high reward pick.

Rosen started 2 games earlier this season and didnt look good. He has the talent but (right now) the leadership and body language just isnt there. Fitz has been AWESOME for the fins this year. I see him back next year as he is still under contract. I think Rosen stays as well (very low salary). If Rosen leaves, then the fins would get a 1st-3rd rd draft pick for him.

I havent heard anything "bad" out of Rosen this season. Hasnt been a head case or a problem teammate. Fitz just has that "it" factor.

I was NOT high on him coming out of college and into the draft. However, i would LOVE for him to be the fins franchise qb. He is young and i'm not too optimisitic about him, just hopeful.

The fins had a weird year (as expected) as they had ALOT of dead money on their books this year and traded away a lot of players for future draftpicks. They will probably end the season 4-12 but i can think of a many NFL fanbases who are more pissed off about their 2019 season as dolphins fans. Plus the fins future looks bright (hopefully). Fins have a lot of draft picks these next 2 seasons and A LOT of $$$ to sign free agents.

Plus hopefully Bill B and Brady are gone in 2 years and the fins can compete like the old days.
 
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Fitz has more of an INT factor than an IT factor imo. He just looks damn good because Rosen looked like me trying to play QB for the Dolphins
 
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Fitz has more of an INT factor than an IT factor imo. He just looks damn good because Rosen looked like me trying to play QB for the Dolphins

fitz has more passing yards than Lamar “top 5 season all time” Jackson this season.

just sayin :)
 
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I am in the minority that thinks Brady wii play for some other team in the NFL next year....would love to hear the opinions of Willie and Zit along with other Patriot fans....
 

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I am in the minority that thinks Brady wii play for some other team in the NFL next year....would love to hear the opinions of Willie and Zit along with other Patriot fans....

You serious? Every Patriots fan I've ever talked to is convinced he will retire a Patriot. Not saying they're wrong...
 

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You serious? Every Patriots fan I've ever talked to is convinced he will retire a Patriot. Not saying they're wrong...

It's Tommy's love and respect for Bobby vs his disdain for Bill. And.... His desire to continue playing vs his wife's disdain for him continuing to play.

Interesting internal wars at work here.

As much as his skills may have diminished the last couple of years, he's 5x the QB this season that Peyton was in his last season. And we all know what Peyton did his last season.

Tom can still win in this league. If he has a team around him.
 
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Rosen is a clone of Jay Cutler.....

Cutler is maybe 3 or 4x better, or was. Cutler is a diva, but Rosen is just a pussy. Big difference. Rosen’s mechanics also very shit. Cutler much stronger arm, better throwing on the run. Just way better. Rosen is decent if he has a great offensive line with plenty of time to throw, great WRs, a great RB, a great defense....then he would win games
 

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