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The Finals seemed legit. Everything leading up to that point was as decided by the refs as anything I've ever seen. NBA wanted Lakers/Celtics and the refs made sure it happened.

Jake you are full off pooo poooo... If you want to take this angle then you should take a look at the finals game #2.

But that would make you think that there was calls going against the Lakers... I know you won't b/c you refuse to let that thought enter your mind...

BTW, I had no issue with the officiating for the entire playoffs.
 
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Kobe swings his bitch elbow yet again into an opponents face last night:

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Who does Houston have to bring in the game to headhunt on Kobe? Chuck Hayes? Joey Dorsey? I don't think Brian Cook can scare anybody.
 

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Oh man...that is so f------ dirty. Thanks for posting that. I heard about that, but that is the first time I saw it, as I didn't stay up and watch the game.
I wonder if David Stern will suspend him...this will be interesting...
 

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I'd like to see Kobe try that elbow crap with Lebron .
 

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Donaghy said it was rigged, and I believe it after re-watching the game, especially when Kobe cocks and throws his elbow into Bibby's face right in front of the ref - no whistle.

I thought the whole point was that they did call a foul on that play. Or is my memory failing me?
 
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Jordan and Kobe should be humbled by enduring a month of solidarity confinement. One had his dad killed the other is Kobe.
 
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I thought the whole point was that they did call a foul on that play. Or is my memory failing me?

There was no foul called on that play. Watch the video I posted
in the first post in this thread.

Kobe cocks and throws his elbow right into Bibby's face, right
in front of the ref - no call.

it so incensed consumer advocate Ralph Nader that he wrote a letter
to David Stern asking for a formal investigation into the ref'ing
in that game.

Then Nader accused Stern of whitewashing the scandal when Stern
blew him off.
 

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Youtube is inconclusive. Google says there was a foul called on the play

Good to see that I can struggle to remember to change my underwear, but can remember a basketball game from 2002

Looking back, we can't know for certain if it was fixed or not, but we do know for sure that a lot of what went on was fucked up

Also remember when David Stern was asked who he wanted in the Finals and he said the Lakers and the Lakers
 

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I dont even know why I got bothered by the hate before... its just plain funny now ... the haters will never stop
 
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Youtube is inconclusive. Google says there was a foul called on the play

Good to see that I can struggle to remember to change my underwear, but can remember a basketball game from 2002

Looking back, we can't know for certain if it was fixed or not, but we do know for sure that a lot of what went on was fucked up

Also remember when David Stern was asked who he wanted in the Finals and he said the Lakers and the Lakers

Do your homework. I've done mine.

I told you, it was the non-call right in front of the ref's face at a very
crucial point in the game that caused Ralph Nader to take up the
cause.

Here is the letter that Nader wrote to Stern about the non-call
on Kobe crushing Bibby's face.

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Ralph Nader and League of Fans' letter to NBA Commissioner David Stern regarding egregious officiating
June 4, 2002
Commissioner David J. Stern
National Basketball Association
Olympic Tower, 656 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Dear Mr. Stern,

At a time when the public's confidence is shaken by headlines reporting the breach of trust by corporate executives, it is important, during the public's relaxation time, for there to be maintained a sense of impartiality and professionalism in commercial sports performances. That sense was severely shaken in the now notorious officiating during Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings.

Calls by referees in the NBA are likely to be more subjective than in professional baseball or football. But as the judicious and balanced Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon wrote this Sunday, too many of the calls in the fourth quarter (when the Lakers received 27 foul shots) were "stunningly incorrect," all against Sacramento. After noting that the three referees in Game 6 "are three of the best in the game," he wrote: "I have never seen officiating in a game of consequence as bad as that in Game 6....When Pollard, on his sixth and final foul, didn't as much as touch Shaq. Didn't touch any part of him. You could see it on TV, see it at courtside. It wasn't a foul in any league in the world. And Divac, on his fifth foul, didn't foul Shaq. They weren't subjective or borderline or debatable. And these fouls not only resulted in free throws, they helped disqualify Sacramento's two low-post defenders." And one might add, in a 106-102 Lakers' victory, this officiating took away what would have been a Sacramento series victory in 6 games.


This was not all. The Kobe Bryant elbow in the nose of Mike Bibby, who after lying on the floor groggy, went to the sideline bleeding, was in full view of the referee, who did nothing, prompted many fans to start wondering about what was motivating these officials.


Wilbon discounted any conspiracy theories about the NBA-NBC desire for a Game 7 etc., but unless the NBA orders a review of this game's officiating, perceptions and suspicions, however presently absent any evidence, will abound and lead to more distrust and distaste for the games in general. When the distinguished basketball writer for the USA Today, David DuPree, can say: "I've been covering the NBA for 30 years, and it's the poorest officiating in an important game I've ever seen," when Wilbon writes that "The Kings and Lakers didn't decide this series would be extended until Sunday; three referees did..." when many thousands of fans, not just those in Sacramento, felt that merit lost to bad refereeing, you need to take notice beyond the usual and widespread grumbling by fans and columnists about referees ignoring the rule book and giving advantages to home teams and superstars.


Your problem in addressing the pivotal Game 6 situation is that you have too much power. Where else can decision-makers (the referees) escape all responsibility to admit serious and egregious error and have their bosses (you) fine those wronged (the players and coaches) who dare to speak out critically?


In a February interview with David DuPree of USA Today, he asked you "Why aren't coaches and players allowed to criticize the referees?" You said, "...we don't want people questioning the integrity of officials. ...It just doesn't pay for us to do anything other than focus people on the game itself rather than the officiating." "Integrity" which we take you to mean "professionalism" of the referees has to be earned and when it is not, it has to be questioned. You and your league have a large and growing credibility problem. Referees are human and make mistakes, but there comes a point that goes beyond any random display of poor performance. That point was reached in Game 6 which took away the Sacramento Kings Western Conference victory.


It seems that you have a choice. You can continue to exercise your absolute power to do nothing. Or you can initiate a review and if all these observers and fans turn out to be right, issue, together with the referees, an apology to the Sacramento Kings and forthrightly admit decisive incompetence during Game 6, especially in the crucial fourth quarter.​
You should know, however, that absolute power, if you choose the former course of inaction, invites the time when it is challenged and changed ý whether by more withdrawal of fans or by more formal legal or legislative action. No government in our country can lawfully stifle free speech and fine those who exercise it; the NBA under present circumstances can both stifle and fine players and coaches who speak up. There is no guarantee that this tyrannical status quo will remain stable over time, should you refuse to bend to reason and the reality of what occurred. A review that satisfies the fans' sense of fairness and deters future recurrences would be a salutary contribution to the public trust that the NBA badly needs.​
We look forward to your considered response.​
Sincerely,​
Ralph Nader
P.O. Box 19312
Washington, DC 20036​
Shawn McCarthy
League of Fans
P.O. Box 19367
Washington, DC 20036​
 
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I dont even know why I got bothered by the hate before... its just plain funny now ... the haters will never stop

Why should we?

Kobe swinging his bitch elbows into guys' faces every game,
and you expect people to ignore it?

You act like people's hatred of Kobe is unprovoked.

He's a slime-ball and a prick.

I said it before, if he did that to me on the court, I would take him
down, or go down trying.
 

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401
In addition, a foul was called against Mike Bibby of the Kings after he was shoved and elbowed by Kobe Bryany

http://www.nationalradio.com/lakers_elbow.shtml
The result was Bibby was called for FOULING BRYANT

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/sports/basketball/13sandomir.html?pagewanted=print
The referees saved their worst omission for last. With 11.8 seconds left and the Lakers ahead, 103-102, Bryant caught an inbound pass, “ran over Mike Bibby to get that ball,” said Walton, bloodied him with an elbow to the nose — and was awarded two free throws after Doug Christie was called for a foul

So it seems sources are sure there was a foul called -- was it on Bibby as he was falling or could it have been Christie either right before or after the ball was inbounded?

In the youtube era, the fact that we have trouble finding such discussed and disected video online says a lot about the NBA trying to cover up what really happened
 

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LMAO i forgot this is about throwing elbows... why does this even get brought up? because it was kobe throwin them

Raja clotheslining kobe?? -its cool he deserved it!

Rondo knockin out millers teeth??- its cool he was going for the ball!

Alston bitch slapping someone? its cool because its not kobe!!

and honestly about ELBOWS? god for people that act like theyve watched basketball for a long time they should realize what Kobe did was something that happens in the game.. artest completely overreacted...talk about hate

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I'd like to see Kobe try that elbow crap with Lebron .

basically this is what would happen in retaliation

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