JVG just said that if Cleveland wins the title it will be greatest upset in NBA history. Also said if LJ pulls this off its the greatest accomplishmen

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Great roll players?
Come on now . I bet some of those plugs on Philly would be great roll players to if LJ was wearing a 76ers uni.
There is a reason they are great roll players.

Thats because the man makes them great roll players.

That dude is so awesome he could probably find a roll for me if I had a Cavs uni.
haha.


How many games in an 82 game season do you think these so called great roll players win in a season minus LJ, KE, and KL.

I bet all those great roll players would all of a sudden become not so great roll players

Iman has always been known for defense... I'm not a dellacocksucker but clearly he plays defense. Thomson on the boards.. And Mozgov is a good rim defender who also can score. Jr Smith for a lightning bolt of offense... For not high skill guys they do one thing very well...

yes Lebron makes everyone better. and without him they would never score
 

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Biggest upset in NBA history???

Not one of these teams this year could compete with all of the better teams in years past.

Cmon chop surely you don't agree with this...
 

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Biggest upset in NBA history???

Not one of these teams this year could compete with all of the better teams in years past.

Cmon chop surely you don't agree with this...

Define years past
 

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GS was -800 vs Memphis this year. SA was -130 in the conference finals vs Memphis 2 years ago. OKC was -260 last year rd 1 vs Memphis

Pre-series odds aren't everything but gimme a break
 

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Find any team in NBA history that won a title where they were the dogs in every single game
 

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I agree with the thread title.....No doubt
 
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In regards to the role players.. It's the nature of the league that all role players are much much better if they play with a legit hof talent superstar. Look at some of the guys on mj teams...longley, wennington, harper, Armstrong... Think Parrish would be a top 50 player all time if he played with a sf not named Larry bird?
 

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Even if Cleveland guys aren't the most talented, Dellavedova and Thompson are way better defensive players than the guys they've replaced which has allowed Cleveland to be a much better team defensively.

They're a lot like Larry Brown/Allen Iverson's 6er teams, except that LeBron is obviously much better all around than Iverson. Better shooters too.
 

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Even if Cleveland guys aren't the most talented, Dellavedova and Thompson are way better defensive players than the guys they've replaced which has allowed Cleveland to be a much better team defensively.

They're a lot like Larry Brown/Allen Iverson's 6er teams, except that LeBron is obviously much better all around than Iverson. Better shooters too.

How many games does this Cavs team win in an 82 game season with replacement level players for LJ, KL, and KI
 

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Regardless......This is the #1 seeded team....69-13.....Only 2 losses at home.

Cavs are making this a series without 2 all stars in Love and Irving.

This will go down as a huge upset....No matter how you look at it.
 

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How many games does this Cavs team win in an 82 game season with replacement level players for LJ, KL, and KI

1 of the worst teams in the league, no doubt.

Sum greater than the parts though. They play good D/rebound and they've got LeBron to create offense.

Guys like Thompson/Shumpert/Mozgov are all really good defensive players. They don't grow on trees

They would be a better team with Irving and Love but they would be a different team too. Wouldn't be able to play this level of D.
 

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I should add.....I hate LeBron,but he will get mayor props for winning this if he does.

I hope he loses......LOL
 

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What did Denzel say to Jesus Shuttlesworth?

Get that hate out of your heart boy!


Only because I`m a Michael Jordan guy....That`s all.....He was the greatest and always will be.
 

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Only because I`m a Michael Jordan guy....That`s all.....He was the greatest and always will be.

So every great player that comes along for the next 50 years you're gonna hate because you liked MJ?

What if they find some breakthrough and you can live forever? That's a lot of hating.
 

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So every great player that comes along for the next 50 years you're gonna hate because you liked MJ?

What if they find some breakthrough and you can live forever? That's a lot of hating.

LeBron James is a pussy.....Leaves Cleveland to team up with Wade and Bosh.

Then he leaves Miami because he thinks that Wade is old and done.

Then he comes to Cleveland....He never went home he just went to a better situation.......He had Cleveland trade for Love.

He`s a pussy......He would never play in the west to much completion.

He would never make it in the NBA when Jordan played.

You touch LeBron and he cries like a bitch....I can`t stand that dude.....I`m done.
 

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LeBron James is a pussy.....Leaves Cleveland to team up with Wade and Bosh.

Then he leaves Miami because he thinks that Wade is old and done.

Then he comes to Cleveland....He never went home he just went to a better situation.......He had Cleveland trade for Love.

He`s a pussy......He would never play in the west to much completion.

He would never make it in the NBA when Jordan played.

You touch LeBron and he cries like a bitch....I can`t stand that dude.....I`m done.

lol that's rich

you can't post much worse than that
 

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If Cavs win the series, it won't be the greatest upset......also, the commentators before the game were saying if Lebron & the Cavs win 2 str, & win the series, he's the best player they have seen in past 25 years......they're sniffing glue IMO.......the NBA has changed so much since Jordan played.
 

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