It's the old college football concept.....lose early and go on a little win streak and "OMG, they are teh awesome". Win early and go into a little funk and "Oh noes, they suck"
The wheels are coming off? They are 6-3....same as Pitt, NE, Dallas, SD. (Against whom Denver is 3-1 BTW).
Ran into an unfortunate injury at a key position yesterday is all. Orton certainly proved that he is much more than a 'game manager'. And this talk that he can't throw the deep ball is nonsense.
Early speculation is that he will miss the SD game next week. I wonder if McD sticks with Simms or takes a chance to see what he has in Brandstater. Simms looked terrible yesterday. He was bouncing dump off passes at RB's feet.
The wheels are coming off? They are 6-3....same as Pitt, NE, Dallas, SD. (Against whom Denver is 3-1 BTW).
Ran into an unfortunate injury at a key position yesterday is all. Orton certainly proved that he is much more than a 'game manager'. And this talk that he can't throw the deep ball is nonsense.
Early speculation is that he will miss the SD game next week. I wonder if McD sticks with Simms or takes a chance to see what he has in Brandstater. Simms looked terrible yesterday. He was bouncing dump off passes at RB's feet.
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Cleveland Coach Eric Mangini accuses the Lions of dastardly actions, and he should be able to recognize sneaky tactics.
By Steve Harvey
November 26, 2009
After his team's 38-37 loss to Detroit, Cleveland Coach Eric Mangini accused the Lions of faking injuries to slow down the Browns' no-huddle offense.
"Perhaps Eric Mangini is faking being a head coach," a reader wrote to the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer. You'd think the reader wasn't proud that the Browns were No. 1 in the Bottom Ten.
As for Mangini's charges, an analysis of the game film found that Lions defensive players were granted injury timeouts six times -- and each time the injured player later returned to the game.
Could Detroit Coach Jim Schwartz be guilty of Mangini's dastardly accusations? Well, he did once work for New England's Bill (Spygate) Belichick. And Mangini should be able to recognize sneaky tactics. After all, he once worked for Belichick too.
Meanwhile, the No. 5 Denver Broncos, who were hailed earlier in the year as the worst 6-0 team in the NFL, are now 6-4 and heading in the direction of 6-10. Denver Coach Josh McDaniels was overheard yelling "We own you!" to some Chargers players before their game last Sunday. The Chargers then won, 32-3.
If McDaniels does own the Chargers, perhaps he can borrow some of their players for his next game.
N. Wreck (Record); Last Loss ; Next Loss
1. Cleveland (1-9); 37-38, Detroit; Cincinnati
2. St. Louis (1-9); 13-21, Arizona; Seattle
3. Grampa Bay (1-9); 7-38, New Orleans; Atlanta
4. Seattle (3-7); 9-35, Minnesota; St. Louis
5. Denver (6-4) ; 3-32, San Diego; N.J. Giants
6. Detroit (2-8);
7. Buffalo (3-7); 8. Chicago (4-6); 9. Washington (3-7); 10. Oakland (3-7).
Rout of the week: Cincinnati (7-3) over Cleveland (1-9).
Crummy game of the week: Seattle (3-7) at St. Louis (1-9).
Fantasy flop of the week: Quarterback Mark Sanchez (Jets) completed eight of 21 passes for 136 yards and one touchdown with four interceptions
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Cleveland Coach Eric Mangini accuses the Lions of dastardly actions, and he should be able to recognize sneaky tactics.
By Steve Harvey
November 26, 2009
After his team's 38-37 loss to Detroit, Cleveland Coach Eric Mangini accused the Lions of faking injuries to slow down the Browns' no-huddle offense.
"Perhaps Eric Mangini is faking being a head coach," a reader wrote to the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer. You'd think the reader wasn't proud that the Browns were No. 1 in the Bottom Ten.
As for Mangini's charges, an analysis of the game film found that Lions defensive players were granted injury timeouts six times -- and each time the injured player later returned to the game.
Could Detroit Coach Jim Schwartz be guilty of Mangini's dastardly accusations? Well, he did once work for New England's Bill (Spygate) Belichick. And Mangini should be able to recognize sneaky tactics. After all, he once worked for Belichick too.
Meanwhile, the No. 5 Denver Broncos, who were hailed earlier in the year as the worst 6-0 team in the NFL, are now 6-4 and heading in the direction of 6-10. Denver Coach Josh McDaniels was overheard yelling "We own you!" to some Chargers players before their game last Sunday. The Chargers then won, 32-3.
If McDaniels does own the Chargers, perhaps he can borrow some of their players for his next game.
N. Wreck (Record); Last Loss ; Next Loss
1. Cleveland (1-9); 37-38, Detroit; Cincinnati
2. St. Louis (1-9); 13-21, Arizona; Seattle
3. Grampa Bay (1-9); 7-38, New Orleans; Atlanta
4. Seattle (3-7); 9-35, Minnesota; St. Louis
5. Denver (6-4) ; 3-32, San Diego; N.J. Giants
6. Detroit (2-8);
7. Buffalo (3-7); 8. Chicago (4-6); 9. Washington (3-7); 10. Oakland (3-7).
Rout of the week: Cincinnati (7-3) over Cleveland (1-9).
Crummy game of the week: Seattle (3-7) at St. Louis (1-9).
Fantasy flop of the week: Quarterback Mark Sanchez (Jets) completed eight of 21 passes for 136 yards and one touchdown with four interceptions
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<!--title-->Kiszla: How about Broncos' McDaniels for NFL coach of the year?
<!--subtitle--><!--byline-->By Mark Kiszla
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<!--date-->Posted: 12/09/2009 01:00:00 AM MST
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<SCRIPT language=JavaScript> if(requestedWidth > 0){ document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').style.width = requestedWidth + "px"; document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').style.margin = "0px 0px 10px 10px"; } </SCRIPT>For everybody who cursed this young football coach for trading Jay Cutler, condemned his draft picks as madness or demanded he be fired before his first game on the Broncos' sideline, it's time to consider calling Josh McDaniels a new name:
NFL coach of the year.
Hey, you got a better candidate?
No coach anywhere in the league, from Sean Payton in New Orleans to Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati, has done a better job at maximizing his team's potential than McDaniels.
Kid McD wears his heart on his hoodie, and Denver players love him for it.
From the Pearl Jam booming out of loudspeakers at practice to his fist pumps in celebration of victory, the rookie coach has stamped his fiery personality on the NFL's surprise team of the season.
Anybody still think firing Mike Shanahan was a bad idea?
Whether a petulant quarterback throws a fit or a star receiver goes postal at practice, when his Broncos lose four straight or injury forces shuffling in the Denver offensive line, all McDaniels keeps trying to do is win the freakin' game.
The goal doesn't change, even if the next challenge is Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts, who are shooting for undefeated immortality.
"My big focus this week is beating them because it'd mean we're 9-4. I think that's the most important thing for me and our team," McDaniels said. "If in some way it can derail history, then it is what it is."
Want to know how it really is?
Denver can no more forget the success of Shanahan than Broncomaniacs will ever stop loving John Elway.
But pull off an upset at Indianapolis, the place where Shanahan's mystique as a mastermind was ripped to shreds more than once by Manning, and McDaniels forever and always buries the ghost of his predecessor as coach.
Impossible? In 12 games on the job, McDaniels already has achieved what couldn't be done.
Wasn't this the team destined to gift-wrap a top-five draft pick for Chicago because the Broncos were doomed to have one of the worst records in the league and McDaniels didn't know what he was doing with his personnel moves?
Isn't this the same young coach that the NFL Network's Jamie Dukes insisted players could not trust?
Anybody who dares to be different is going to be regarded as nuts before hearing applause for vision and courage. I was dingy enough to campaign for the trade of Cutler and sufficiently dippy to believe drafting Knowshon Moreno was smart, but when the Broncos began to take frustrations out on teammates in public displays of disaffection during a four- game losing streak, it seemed to me the young coach had lost control.
McDaniels, however, refused to surrender to doubt, proved me wrong and kept this crazy dream alive.
We're talking playoffs? With unwanted Kyle Orton at quarterback and 5-foot-11 Elvis Dumervil the big man on defense? That alone should qualify McDaniels as a legit candidate to be coach of the year.
To miss the playoffs now, the Broncos would have to blow it. Of course, at this time a year ago, Shanahan was looking as smug as a coach for life, and we all know how that ended.
There certainly is danger of more whoa, whoa, whoa than ho, ho, ho on the December schedule again this year, with tough trips to Indy and Philadelphia, and what sets up to be the classic trap game against Oakland in the middle of the franchise's push to its first postseason berth in four years.
So it's far from a lock McDaniels will be named the most outstanding coach of the year. There's work to be done.
But name me an NFL coach who has turned more heads this year. If nothing else, McDaniels is good theater.
Denver had lost its football identity and its status as an elite league team. To be brutally honest, the Broncos were boring.
You know what brash, fiery Kid McD has given back to this franchise, with every pump of his fist and bleepin' demand for excellence?
Mojo.
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<!--title-->Kiszla: How about Broncos' McDaniels for NFL coach of the year?
<!--subtitle--><!--byline-->By Mark Kiszla
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<!--date-->Posted: 12/09/2009 01:00:00 AM MST
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NFL coach of the year.
Hey, you got a better candidate?
No coach anywhere in the league, from Sean Payton in New Orleans to Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati, has done a better job at maximizing his team's potential than McDaniels.
Kid McD wears his heart on his hoodie, and Denver players love him for it.
From the Pearl Jam booming out of loudspeakers at practice to his fist pumps in celebration of victory, the rookie coach has stamped his fiery personality on the NFL's surprise team of the season.
Anybody still think firing Mike Shanahan was a bad idea?
Whether a petulant quarterback throws a fit or a star receiver goes postal at practice, when his Broncos lose four straight or injury forces shuffling in the Denver offensive line, all McDaniels keeps trying to do is win the freakin' game.
The goal doesn't change, even if the next challenge is Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts, who are shooting for undefeated immortality.
"My big focus this week is beating them because it'd mean we're 9-4. I think that's the most important thing for me and our team," McDaniels said. "If in some way it can derail history, then it is what it is."
Want to know how it really is?
Denver can no more forget the success of Shanahan than Broncomaniacs will ever stop loving John Elway.
But pull off an upset at Indianapolis, the place where Shanahan's mystique as a mastermind was ripped to shreds more than once by Manning, and McDaniels forever and always buries the ghost of his predecessor as coach.
Impossible? In 12 games on the job, McDaniels already has achieved what couldn't be done.
Wasn't this the team destined to gift-wrap a top-five draft pick for Chicago because the Broncos were doomed to have one of the worst records in the league and McDaniels didn't know what he was doing with his personnel moves?
Isn't this the same young coach that the NFL Network's Jamie Dukes insisted players could not trust?
Anybody who dares to be different is going to be regarded as nuts before hearing applause for vision and courage. I was dingy enough to campaign for the trade of Cutler and sufficiently dippy to believe drafting Knowshon Moreno was smart, but when the Broncos began to take frustrations out on teammates in public displays of disaffection during a four- game losing streak, it seemed to me the young coach had lost control.
McDaniels, however, refused to surrender to doubt, proved me wrong and kept this crazy dream alive.
We're talking playoffs? With unwanted Kyle Orton at quarterback and 5-foot-11 Elvis Dumervil the big man on defense? That alone should qualify McDaniels as a legit candidate to be coach of the year.
To miss the playoffs now, the Broncos would have to blow it. Of course, at this time a year ago, Shanahan was looking as smug as a coach for life, and we all know how that ended.
There certainly is danger of more whoa, whoa, whoa than ho, ho, ho on the December schedule again this year, with tough trips to Indy and Philadelphia, and what sets up to be the classic trap game against Oakland in the middle of the franchise's push to its first postseason berth in four years.
So it's far from a lock McDaniels will be named the most outstanding coach of the year. There's work to be done.
But name me an NFL coach who has turned more heads this year. If nothing else, McDaniels is good theater.
Denver had lost its football identity and its status as an elite league team. To be brutally honest, the Broncos were boring.
You know what brash, fiery Kid McD has given back to this franchise, with every pump of his fist and bleepin' demand for excellence?
Mojo.
Well, what a fitting end to the season for the brash arrogant Mr. Daniels. Mr Bowlen got what he deserved too. Season begins like it ends...........
** He trades his franchise QB because he thought he would throw too many interceptions in his system and trades for Kyle Orton..........fitting Mr. Orton tosses 3 interceptions today to help keep his team out of the playoffs. For as bad as Cutler has been this year, I'm sure he is smiling tonight.
** Suspends Brandon Marshall for insubordinance to start the year, then he decides to suspend his best player & weapon yet again in the teams final game they need to win to make the playoffs. Priceless.
** He trades his franchise QB because he thought he would throw too many interceptions in his system and trades for Kyle Orton..........fitting Mr. Orton tosses 3 interceptions today to help keep his team out of the playoffs. For as bad as Cutler has been this year, I'm sure he is smiling tonight.
** Suspends Brandon Marshall for insubordinance to start the year, then he decides to suspend his best player & weapon yet again in the teams final game they need to win to make the playoffs. Priceless.
Your original post was about McDaniels dumping his "franchise QB"
The last one bumping this thread should be YOU.
As bad as it might be for Denver, your evaluation of your STUD QB is worse than anything McDaniels did. McDaniels got draft picks and traded away an overrated QB and luckily he found someone besides you who thought Cutler was a stud.
You are the one who looks moronic at this point, not Denver.
PS: my last post in this moronic thread. Cutler sucks and always will. Live with it.
The last one bumping this thread should be YOU.
As bad as it might be for Denver, your evaluation of your STUD QB is worse than anything McDaniels did. McDaniels got draft picks and traded away an overrated QB and luckily he found someone besides you who thought Cutler was a stud.
You are the one who looks moronic at this point, not Denver.
PS: my last post in this moronic thread. Cutler sucks and always will. Live with it.
Cutler has all the talent in the world. He may be a loose cannon but I'd rather have him over the next 10 years as opposed to Kyle Orton. Thats my point. Him struggling this year was no surprise......he had no receivers to throw to and bad coaches. I really hope Shanahan goes to Chicago to straighten him out.
McDaniels has a lot to learn too. I'm still in bewilderment as to why they did not throw to Eddie Royal at all the whole year.
McDaniels has a lot to learn too. I'm still in bewilderment as to why they did not throw to Eddie Royal at all the whole year.
They were a shit team.
They had an uncoachable QB with shit for brains, tried to get him out of there, got caught and STILL managed to get 1st rounders for him. Pretty impressive.
Think of Chicago now. Traded top flight picks for a dumbfuck, signed him to an extension, are stuck with him, and don't have their top draft pick.
The Broncos can get rid of Orton, draft a QB with Chicago's pick, and be better off.
They had an uncoachable QB with shit for brains, tried to get him out of there, got caught and STILL managed to get 1st rounders for him. Pretty impressive.
Think of Chicago now. Traded top flight picks for a dumbfuck, signed him to an extension, are stuck with him, and don't have their top draft pick.
The Broncos can get rid of Orton, draft a QB with Chicago's pick, and be better off.
BUMP.........woot woot.
Fine job Josh. 2-5.
I cant believe the Denver fans are actually booing Kyle Orton now and chanting for Tim Tebow. Orton has been a Top 5 Qb this season (which I honestly cant believe, but he has played very well.) Once the Great Tebow Experiment blows up, McDaniels will be looking for a job.
Romanowski......well said. I am through with Cutler. Guy has all the talent in the world yet he thinks he can throw the ball when and where he wants with no disregard for anything. I've always been a fan of his moxy & toughness, but he just looks stupid so far this year (o-line aside).
Fine job Josh. 2-5.
I cant believe the Denver fans are actually booing Kyle Orton now and chanting for Tim Tebow. Orton has been a Top 5 Qb this season (which I honestly cant believe, but he has played very well.) Once the Great Tebow Experiment blows up, McDaniels will be looking for a job.
Romanowski......well said. I am through with Cutler. Guy has all the talent in the world yet he thinks he can throw the ball when and where he wants with no disregard for anything. I've always been a fan of his moxy & toughness, but he just looks stupid so far this year (o-line aside).
Well, well, well......the Final chapter of this thread! LOL.
Let's recap...............
QB:
* trades a talented young QB with all the skills in Cutler for a game manager QB (albeit Orton has had a good year.)
* trades to acquire Brady Quinn......(insert joke here.)
* trades up to draft Tim Tebow because he goes to church.
RB:
* traded away Peyton Hillis, ummmmmm, for Brady Quinn?
* trades for (cough) Larry Maroney.
WR:
* dumps one of the most talented young pro-bowl receivers in Brandon Marshall because he doesnt sing in the church choir.
* does not utilize the strengths of rookie phenom WR Eddie Royal. Royal was a ghost last year and only a bit player this year.
TE:
* Dumps a good young pass catching tight end in Tony Scheffler.
*****This doesn't even include some of the silly other trades/signings Mcdumbass has made.
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Like I said, I blame the GM for this too. Denver had one of the leagues most potent offenses in the league when they fired Shanahan........Cutler, Hillis, Marshall, Royal, and Scheffler posted silly offensive numbers. All they had to do was draft and trade for some defensive players and they couldve had a nice playoff/SB run going over the next 5-10 years. Instead they fire Shanny and hire idiot McDaniels and he blows up the side of the ball that didnt need improved just to put in his system. The defense is still awful, and now the offense has to rebuild again under the new coach. The GM has set this team back with these moves. I feel for the Bronco faithful.
Let's recap...............
QB:
* trades a talented young QB with all the skills in Cutler for a game manager QB (albeit Orton has had a good year.)
* trades to acquire Brady Quinn......(insert joke here.)
* trades up to draft Tim Tebow because he goes to church.
RB:
* traded away Peyton Hillis, ummmmmm, for Brady Quinn?
* trades for (cough) Larry Maroney.
WR:
* dumps one of the most talented young pro-bowl receivers in Brandon Marshall because he doesnt sing in the church choir.
* does not utilize the strengths of rookie phenom WR Eddie Royal. Royal was a ghost last year and only a bit player this year.
TE:
* Dumps a good young pass catching tight end in Tony Scheffler.
*****This doesn't even include some of the silly other trades/signings Mcdumbass has made.
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Like I said, I blame the GM for this too. Denver had one of the leagues most potent offenses in the league when they fired Shanahan........Cutler, Hillis, Marshall, Royal, and Scheffler posted silly offensive numbers. All they had to do was draft and trade for some defensive players and they couldve had a nice playoff/SB run going over the next 5-10 years. Instead they fire Shanny and hire idiot McDaniels and he blows up the side of the ball that didnt need improved just to put in his system. The defense is still awful, and now the offense has to rebuild again under the new coach. The GM has set this team back with these moves. I feel for the Bronco faithful.
