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She had me at hello...

But she lost me during the debate when she brings up her daughter ODing in a conversation that started off about marijuana. Politicizing your kids death is a little fucked....

I'm not a Carly fan but I don't see that as politicizing her kids death. Besides, if she became a serious threat it would have been a matter of time before Trump tweeted about it.
 

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Trump is lying and/or misinformed. 1 of the 2.

Ford spokesperson said they're still building a plant in Mexico.

Here is an idea for Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and everyone else. If you want plants to be built in the US, then make it financially prudent to do so, otherwise they're not going to be and no amount of "tough talk" or protectionist tariffs will change that.


Trump didn't say anything about this. This news was presented in CNN Money, let's wait & see if there is anything to it!
 

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I'm not a Carly fan but I don't see that as politicizing her kids death. Besides, if she became a serious threat it would have been a matter of time before Trump tweeted about it.

Her step-daughter dying from alcohol/opiate addiction had no place in a debate about legalizing/decriminalizing marijuana.

If she wanted to bring it up and point out the prescription drug/opiate epidemic we have in this country, there are plenty of other times to do so.

One of the reasons we don't have sane drug policies in this country is because of political sensationalism like that.
 

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OMG, a Carly enthusiast.

Trump Successfully Pressures Ford to Move Mexican Plant to Ohio

Donald Trump may not be the President yet, but his constant criticism of Ford outsourcing jobs to Mexico
has caused the auto tycoon to change course and bring the $2,000,000,000 plant back to the United States.
CNN Money reports that Ford is moving its facility, originally slated for Mexico, back to the United States,
where it will employ 1,000 factory workers in struggling Youngstown, Ohio.

Imagine if Ford had a CEO as bizarre as Carly. No chance those jobs would stay in the US. Carly was so proud
of her 'OUTSOURCING' strategies at HP that when confronted by reporters during her time there she gleefully
revealed her pet name for the technique she called it 'RIGHT SHARING' Honestly this person after her non-stellar
tenure there and during other persuits has some nerve running for anything let alone the presidency.

Can you imagine if Carly became a front runner and the press started vetting her?

It wouldn't be pretty.
 

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Hardly a Carly enthusiast. I wouldn't vote for her. Just a realistic observer who recognizes her strengths and weaknesses.

But you think one of her strengths is her detailed presentation of foreign policy in debates, nonsense!
CF gleefully when the audience was beemed on her stated that the first thing she would do when elected is call her good friend
Bibi N. and assure him of her support & also she wouldn't talk to Putin. Then a few days later the 'Carly Doctrine'
was blown to bits when Netanyahu flew to Moscow jumping at the chance to converse with Putin about foreign
affairs conderning their respective nations.
 

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Trump didn't say anything about this. This news was presented in CNN Money, let's wait & see if there is anything to it!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-is-still-building-a-massive-plant-in-mexico/

Basically Trump was fooled by some random site and false reporting.

Ford is saying HOLA SENOR and building the plant in Mexico. According to a spokeswoman just yesterday. As you can see in the article.

I'm all for it Trump wanting to bring jobs to America. Nativist bullying, tariffs, protection isn't going to do it though.

"Hands off our jobs!" Can't be this countries policy towards globalization over the next 20 years.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-is-still-building-a-massive-plant-in-mexico/

Basically Trump was fooled by some random site and false reporting.

Ford is saying HOLA SENOR and building the plant in Mexico. According to a spokeswoman just yesterday. As you can see in the article.

I'm all for it Trump wanting to bring jobs to America. Nativist bullying, tariffs, protection isn't going to do it though.

"Hands off our jobs!" Can't be this countries policy towards globalization over the next 20 years.

I disagree, what about Rubio polic towards globalization
of the American electorate over the next 20 years

That's the globalization I'm worried about.
 

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But you think one of her strengths is her detailed presentation of foreign policy in debates, nonsense!
CF gleefully when the audience was beemed on her stated that the first thing she would do when elected is call her good friend
Bibi N. and assure him of her support & also she wouldn't talk to Putin. Then a few days later the 'Carly Doctrine'
was blown to bits when Netanyahu flew to Moscow jumping at the chance to converse with Putin about foreign
affairs conderning their respective nations.

I said she's an excellent debater. Nothing about detailed foreign policy. She is very focused, talks in relatable sound bites, plays the victim well, and is very good at putting someone down politely but effectively. She's been in 2 debates so far, and won them both decisively. Her poll numbers rise decidedly after debates, and if she has another good one, I expect that to happen again. I've stated many times she's not a factor for POTUS, but would and should be a strong factor for VPOTUS, depending on the winning R POTUS candidate, and the D candidate, which is all but certain to be Hillary.
 

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Her step-daughter dying from alcohol/opiate addiction had no place in a debate about legalizing/decriminalizing marijuana.

If she wanted to bring it up and point out the prescription drug/opiate epidemic we have in this country, there are plenty of other times to do so.

One of the reasons we don't have sane drug policies in this country is because of political sensationalism like that.

I don't agree. Think it was valid and while I don't like her I don't think she's an evil person.....which you have to be to do that for political purposes. Maybe should have brought it up another time I guess.
 

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Trump is lying and/or misinformed. 1 of the 2.

Ford spokesperson said they're still building a plant in Mexico.

Here is an idea for Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and everyone else. If you want plants to be built in the US, then make it financially prudent to do so, otherwise they're not going to be and no amount of "tough talk" or protectionist tariffs will change that.

Financially prudent?

The biggest impediment to real wealth creation and jobs here as well as Europe right now is socialism: govt policies pricing manufacturing out of the market.

Either people will have to come to grips with reality and demand real reform, or we will continue down the current path where wealth from decades past is siphoned offshore to more "business friendly" economies.

Unfortunately, the political environment in most modern Western economies isn't conducive to real economic growth anymore...

"too big to fail"
"social justice"
"soak the rich"
"economic inequality"

...and so on.

In short, we have to stop creating and chasing these ridiculous, failed nonsensical political scripts and just allow capitalism to work.

Next up on the job-killing docket: doing something about "climate change" face)(*^%
 

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I disagree, what about Rubio polic towards globalization
of the American electorate over the next 20 years

That's the globalization I'm worried about.

You mean the browning of America? Isn't that a different issue?

I'm talking about the fact the developing world is growing substantially in terms of economic power and production capability. Despite the fact that we still have a smart, innovative workforce, there just is more competition than ever before in terms of intellect, resources and ingenuity.

Going forward the way to compete is going to be to lower costs and have as much of a pro-business/innovation environment as possible.

We're not going to guilt 100 billion dollar companies into building plants in Youngstown, Ohio.
 

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Financially prudent?

The biggest impediment to real wealth creation and jobs here as well as Europe right now is socialism: govt policies pricing manufacturing out of the market.

Either people will have to come to grips with reality and demand real reform, or we will continue down the current path where wealth from decades past is siphoned offshore to more "business friendly" economies.

Unfortunately, the political environment in most modern Western economies isn't conducive to real economic growth anymore...

"too big to fail"
"social justice"
"soak the rich"
"economic inequality"

...and so on.

In short, we have to stop creating and chasing these ridiculous, failed nonsensical political scripts and just allow capitalism to work.

Next up on the job-killing docket: doing something about "climate change" face)(*^%

A protectionist tariff is a gov't policy...What did you take financially prudent to mean? I.e less regulations/taxes....Even lower wages, the reason we can't have lower wages is because thanks to gov't policy, the cost of everything essential has skyrocketed the last 20-30 years.

Taxing ford 35% for building a plant in Mexico or demonizing an American automaker isn't going to change that. No matter how much Trump and his working-class base wish it would...
 

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A protectionist tariff is a gov't policy...What did you take financially prudent to mean? I.e less regulations/taxes....Even lower wages, the reason we can't have lower wages is because thanks to gov't policy, the cost of everything essential has skyrocketed the last 20-30 years.

Taxing ford 35% for building a plant in Mexico or demonizing an American automaker isn't going to change that. No matter how much Trump and his working-class base wish it would...

A protectionist tariff is sometimes necessary when other governments aren't playing fair. Capitalism works, but only on a true level playing field.

I don't think the avg. voter has a clue why their wages are stagnant, "the rich keep getting richer" and bedrock American industries are flying the coop. Not a clue...

What I do see is clueless (economic-illiterate) politicians stepping forward with 'solutions' (Obama, Clinton, Kasich, Sanders etc.) which only make things infinitely worse.
 

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A protectionist tariff is sometimes necessary when other governments aren't playing fair. Capitalism works, but only on a true level playing field.

I don't think the avg. voter has a clue why their wages are stagnant, "the rich keep getting richer" and bedrock American industries are flying the coop. Not a clue...

What I do see is clueless (economic-illiterate) politicians stepping forward with 'solutions' (Obama, Clinton, Kasich, Sanders etc.) which only make things infinitely worse.

Yes and sometimes you also have to fight subsidies with your own subsidies or your industry gets killed. I.e sugar lobby, fossil fuels.

I'm not aware of any manipulation going on in relation to Ford moving to Mexico though. They're likely moving there because it is just significantly cheaper to build a plant there and wages are less. The response to this can't be "F them, we're going to show those unpatriotic MFers"...All that does is fire people up with more populist rhetoric, which as you just said, isn't the solution.

We need someone to articulate to people that globalization is no joke, if it doesn't start getting significantly cheaper to do business here then it won't be done here.
 

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Sheriff Joe;11292547[B said:
]A protectionist tariff is sometimes necessary when other governments aren't playing fair. Capitalism works, but only on a true level playing field.[/B]

I don't think the avg. voter has a clue why their wages are stagnant, "the rich keep getting richer" and bedrock American industries are flying the coop. Not a clue...

What I do see is clueless (economic-illiterate) politicians stepping forward with 'solutions' (Obama, Clinton, Kasich, Sanders etc.) which only make things infinitely worse.



yup


how long was China allowed to peg their currency? ....hell , things slow down for them and they are back at it?


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33900274



TPP? more nonsense to appease the corporates; is USA trying to destroy USA? HOW is wage and environmental arbitrage with 3rd world countries FAIR?



which begs the question; what's the most expedient way to 'level the playing field'? tariffs-- Any chance they'd be less factories heading out of N America?


think i posted this before, unsure, so i'll post again;

sneak preview for the TPP?

'In March 2012, President Obama inaugurated a free trade pact with South Korea and in many ways, it provides a template for what we may expect from a broader TPP.
Imports from South Korea are up 3.6 billion, U.S. exports are down marginally and the U.S. trade deficit with the Asian nation has swelled to 5 billion. That free trade deal alone has killed about 25,000 American jobs—mostly in high paying manufacturing activities—and added to downward pressures on wages and worsened income inequality'




one of the countries listed in the TPP is Brunei. HUH?......why Brunei?....where the fuck is Brunei?........:)
 

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The faster Jeb goes away, the better.
 

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Jeb Bush’s chief operating officer has left the campaign, marking the highest-level departure from the former Florida governor’s team.


COO Christine Ciccone resigned a few weeks ago, according to a senior Bush aide -- though the departure was not made public until Friday when The Wall Street Journal first reported it.


OOPS!
 

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Can a RINO please enlighten me?

What exactly does Mitt Romney and John McCain have that Jeb Bush doesn't?
 

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Can a RINO please enlighten me?

What exactly does Mitt Romney and John McCain have that Jeb Bush doesn't?

Fire in the belly (Carson missing this as well)

Self-assuredness (like Rubio or Christie)

Comfort in his own space (like Trump)
 

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