Isn't buying medical insurance not +EV?

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x files you seem like a smart cat but this is fucking stupid.

what company do you by anything from that doesnt try to make a profit.

I do this all day long and I can tell you most people bitch about the premiums but you know what I see ALOT of heart attacks,cancer,diabettes,aneurysms,etc.

Easily I have seen claims in the millions and alot in the $100k to $300k.

I always tell people in your boat take a $10,000 deductible with no bells and whistles and insure against the major. The other benefit you would have with that is getting the insurances negotiated rate with anything if you need services.
 
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x files you seem like a smart cat but this is fucking stupid.

what company do you by anything from that doesnt try to make a profit.

I do this all day long and I can tell you most people bitch about the premiums but you know what I see ALOT of heart attacks,cancer,diabettes,aneurysms,etc.

Easily I have seen claims in the millions and alot in the $100k to $300k.

I always tell people in your boat take a $10,000 deductible with no bells and whistles and insure against the major. The other benefit you would have with that is getting the insurances negotiated rate with anything if you need services.

Of course companies try to make a profit. I'm just to lazy to walk
out the door and get the insurance, or even do it online. Therefore
it would be nice to justify that it is profitable +EV not to do so.

Which one would you recommend for snowbirds wintering in Asia?

The airlines gave me some coverage i bought off them, 1-2 bills.
Hospital costs over 8 months in Bangkok, maybe 300. Other than
that, only limited regular Canadian medical.
 
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"You should be aware that your provincial coverage may not pay for all the health care costs you may incur outside the province, and the difference can be substantial. For example, B.C. pays $75 (Cdn) a day for emergency in-patient hospital care, while the average cost in the U.S. often exceeds $1000 (US) a day, and can be as high as $10,000 (US) a day in intensive care. For this reason, you are strongly advised to purchase additional health insurance from a private insurer before you leave the province, whether you are going to another part of Canada or outside the country - even if you plan to be away for only a day. See Medical Care Outside B.C. for more information.

http://www.hlth.gov.bc.ca/msp/infoben/leavingbc.html#absence
 

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Peace of mind has to be figured into the calculation also.

I don't need personal medical in any of the three countries I reside in from time to time, but when I go abroad for conferences etc I always purchase travel insurance that covers me if I get ill abroad. Travel insurance is ok if you're abroad for upto 90 days generally.
 
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I would have been sunk if I didn't have insurance when my son was diagnosed with cancer last year. The cost for treatment is unbelievable.
 
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You can't look at insurance like this. It's always going to be on a case-by-case basis and is impossible to predict. You would need a crystal ball.

In my case i've never had any major health problems, have been
given a good grade in checkups, & geneticly {in family history} it
looks promising. I don't smoke & drink moderately. So for me maybe
purchasing med coverage is extremely negative EV, i.e. is a poor
money wasting investment. In the extremely unlikely case that a
major problem does occur while abroad, there is a high probability
that i could return home to Canada where doctor/hospital care
is free.
 

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Of course I get free medical here in canada, however, if I didnt have insurance I would be in massive debt right now as I have needed the Medical system twice, both times car accidents.
 

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In my case i've never had any major health problems, have been
given a good grade in checkups, & geneticly {in family history} it
looks promising. I don't smoke & drink moderately. So for me maybe
purchasing med coverage is extremely negative EV, i.e. is a poor
money wasting investment. In the extremely unlikely case that a
major problem does occur while abroad, there is a high probability
that i could return home to Canada where doctor/hospital care
is free.

Obviously it's your call, and your good health is a consideration. The thing I would me most concerned with would be an accident like SportsSavant talked about. Those are impossible to plan for.
 
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Obviously it's your call, and your good health is a consideration. The thing I would me most concerned with would be an accident like SportsSavant talked about. Those are impossible to plan for.

That's true, and walking around in downtown Bangkok one could
use eyes in the back of the head, with motorbikes often driving
on the wrong side of the street, and at times on the sidewalk.
 

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= $26,000

My insurance is $280 a month - this was a soccer injury but what if you get in a car accident or worse the missus gets preggers.
 

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The whole +Ev bullshit does not work in this case. In this case you want to be way on the -ev side.

If you have health insurance you better hope its -ev or that means you're gonna be a sick mofo.

I hope I never use any of the insurance I pay umpteen thousands of dollars a year for. That is the idea.
 

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Peace of mind has to be figured into the calculation also.

I don't need personal medical in any of the three countries I reside in from time to time, but when I go abroad for conferences etc I always purchase travel insurance that covers me if I get ill abroad. Travel insurance is ok if you're abroad for upto 90 days generally.

Peace of mind not only for financial reasons but peace of mind for health reasons. What I mean by that is that insurance covers preventative care. I'm afraid too many people with the large deductibles don't get the preventative care done because it is all out-of-pocket.

I get an annual physical and also get an echochardiogram every 4 to 5 years and now will be getting a colonoscopy. Those would all be out of pocket if I had a large deductible. People with a large deductible have a tendency to not get those things taken care of.
 

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car accident would ruin u unless ur a trust fund baby

or you dont pay your bills
 

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Been through a many year life spiral that ended in spouse death and consumed seven figures as well as medical personal tests that gobbled thousands per test. The US is a 'pay for life' system and if you have the resources then get educated on prices of procedures and tests and weigh them against your health issues and possibilities and self insure/invest if you can. The US insurance industry is a predator that intends to separate you from your financial and health security. Other western nations have been able to squash insurance lobby money in enacting healthy national medical policies. The is US is rotten to the ownership lobbied investment core and that might be a distant annoyance to your healthy self , but I guarantee when you are on the other side of the collection calls you will understand how these predators mean deadly financial and medical harm to you.
 

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It's all about the large risk pool. The people buying the insurance pay their share of the risk for the entire pool. Whether or not it is +EV, it doesn't matter. It's not an investment, it's an expense. You pay a premium to get the protection to cover the things that would otherwise ruin you financially. That's the essence of insurance, period.
 

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the x factor in all this is one car accident...

then gentlemen

you are fd
 

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