Is there anything more evil and irrational than Jew-hatred and Israel-hatred?

[kcameron95]

i don't think its because of the jewish athlete or anything physically wrong with the jewish athlete.

iran doesn't recognize Israel. i believe they've always not participated in event that directly puts them against the Israelis.

i remember same thing couple of years ago. the athlete who forfeited got the same compensation as if they won the event.

in addition this is why Israel doesn't compete in asian tournments (such as Soccer). Israel competes with Europe because alot of asian countries don't recognize israel and as such would not compete in these tournments.

 

[DarrylParsons]

As usual, when someone beats the holocaust drum, as if it hasn't been beaten to death by now, I have to add the perspective of Stalin being an even bigger tyrant than Hitler, with Mao Zedong being right up there with the two of them.

Yet interestingly there is hardly a peep from the media about the other two.

Facts don't lie and here they are...

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm

 

[ScottL]

I don't know what is higher in this thread, the level of ignorance or the level of hate.

 

[DarrylParsons]

I don't know what is higher in this thread, the level of ignorance or the level of hate.

Making assumptions about people's emotions based on political beliefs is ignorant, I agree.

 

[JoeContrarian]

Darryl, I agree with you that Stalin's crimes were unimaginable, but they weren't motivated by irrational hate. Stalin did not seek to eliminate an entire race. In fact, most of those deaths were his own people. This is what tyrants do. Saddam Hussein was another example.

Btw, during the Cold War, we recognized the Soviet Union. During WW II we recognized Imperial Japan. The fact that all of the world's Jew-haters won't even recognize the sovereign state of Israel is another first and very unique. I can't think of any nation in history that attracted such venom merely because of it's existence.

Israel is the size of Belize. Israel hate is just as irrational and unprecedented as Jew hate. There simply are no parallels.

 

[barman]

T0250: Mark's hatred for homosexuals is quite on par.

SH: heh...I figured that wording would be too much like hitting a baseball off a tee, thus my more general phrasing.

 

[barman]

MARK insists: Israel hate is just as irrational and unprecedented as Jew hate. There simply are no parallels.

SH: An utterly astonishing assertion, given the treatment of blacks in the USA during our first 190 years and the treatment of homosexuals for most of the duration of our country's history and the history of other cultures (Mideast Islamic countries for sure).

Now that I've been part of a Jewish family for the past 12 years, I've learned firsthand of the degradation and hate that has been and can be heaped on Jews. But to suggest it is "without parallel" can be nothing more than one being a cyber provocateur.

As the man said, "Par for the course when JoeC is swinging the keyboard"

 

[barman]

Never gets old watching Mark pretend like he knows what motivated a cat like Josef Stalin.

 

[D2bets]

It's no more or less irrational than all of the other hatred and evil throughout history that has emanated from religious animus and bigotry.

 

[barman]

As usual, when someone beats the holocaust drum, as if it hasn't been beaten to death by now, I have to add the perspective of Stalin being an even bigger tyrant than Hitler, with Mao Zedong being right up there with the two of them.

Yet interestingly there is hardly a peep from the media about the other two.

Facts don't lie and here they are...

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/tyrants.htm

Excellent observation and always apt. "Hatred for Others Not Like Me" is hardly unique to those who include Jews on their Special List.

Once one decides it's a good idea to Kill Without Just Cause, you're pretty much on the same bus as any Jew Hater - but just on a different row.

 

[DarrylParsons]

Joe, seriously, do you think the families of Stalin's victims buy your argument of him not being motivated by hate?

From your second paragraph am I to conclude that using the most destructive weapons ever used in the history of mankind is less evil than not recognizing a country? Yeah the US wiped out hundreds of thousands of civilians in a single blow, most of whom were women and children, then millions more got cancer later on, but at least they recognized them as a country!

 

[ScottL]

"Israel is the size of Belize. Israel hate is just as irrational and unprecedented as Jew hate. There simply are no parallels."

The Joe C hate on this forum is irrational. The ignorance about Jews and Israel in this forum is unprecedented. THREAD CLOSED!

 

[Brooklynbomber]

"joe" needs to be corrected on his statement that Iran "wants to wipe Israel from the map"......it has been proven over and over that that quote by Ahmad was mistranslated

that said, yeah they fucking hate each other, WGAF?

many Muislims possess a bit less brain power and are a little more fanatical is all

 

[JoeContrarian]

Joe, seriously, do you think the families of Stalin's victims buy your argument of him not being motivated by hate?

I didn't say Stalin's crimes weren't heinous, and I am sure the families of Stalin's victims would feel otherwise....but they would be wrong if they believed they were targeted because of their specific race, class, sex, etc.

Stalin didn't produce propagandistic films depicting an entire race as vermin. What were Stalin's motivations, Darryl? Can you share them with us?

Jew hate is uniquely evil -- as is Israel hate.

From your second paragraph am I to conclude that using the most destructive weapons ever used in the history of mankind is less evil than not recognizing a country?

I don't believe war in itself is evil, quite the opposite. In many circumstances, war is just, astonishingly effective and the ONLY option, ie WW II and every war the United States has fought since that period.

Liberals are anti-war; conservatives are anti-evil. Liberals believe the act of war itself is evil which of course is patent nonsense.

Liberals don't/can't/won't discern between murder and killing.

Killing is perfectly justified in many cases -- murder (defined as killing with malicious thought or intent) is not.

The Japanese attacked our country and MURDERED Americans unprovoked -- we responded.

If someone breaks into your home and threatens the safety of your family, you have a right to self defense. If you end up killing them, you won't be charged with "murder."

The United States doesn't murder, although our proficiency at targeting and killing evil is quite impressive.

 

[ScottL]

"joe" needs to be corrected on his statement that Iran "wants to wipe Israel from the map"......it has been proven over and over that that quote by Ahmad was mistranslated

that said, yeah they fucking hate each other, WGAF?

many Muislims possess a bit less brain power and are a little more fanatical is all

Which of the 3,213 times that he said it was it "mistranslated" jdog?

 

[barman]

MARK asks: What were Stalin's motivations, Darryl? Can you share them with us?

SH: No need Darryl. Joe already supplied the answer in his earlier post since he himself has the inside track on what motivated Josef Stalin.

Comedy Gold

 

[Romanowski]

its not mistranslated

the only controversy is about him saying he wants to wipe all jews off the face of the earth and his claim is nah just Israel

 

[Romanowski]

All Arabs currently employed in Israel----fired

problem solved they die of hunger.

Let Egypt send in the humanitarian aid.

 

[Romanowski]

back on topic.

Who cares if the guy gave up his right to be in the Olympics?

loser

Im not up to speed on Olympic records....is Mark Spitz' record of 7 gold medals still stand?

 

[TotalRecall]

JOE- a better comparison tool might be with states of the USA since most (except you of course) live here and wouldnt know where Belize (formerly British Honduras) actually was.


MA 21,456 sq km (8,284 sq mi)
ISRAEL 20,770 sq km (8,019 sq mi)