of course its rigged, that lil midget stern wouldnt have it any other way. notice how he tried to sweep that ref scandal under the carpet so quick. he didnt even want an investigation!! i heard he has the lakers and cavs penciled in for the finals so you might want some action on that lol. hellooo ratings!!!
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no its not rigged. you only rig something for an obvious result or something that will benefit you.
the nba is such a moneymaking machine, they dont need certain teams to make it. thats why i always laugh at people saying its rigged. if the league was struggling, maybe, but the nba has surpassed MLB imo as the second biggest sport in the country, based on numerous things such as tv deals, salaries, international following, sponsors, tv ratings, etc.
i would think the nhl would be a league where you could see a league wide fix.
the nba is such a moneymaking machine, they dont need certain teams to make it. thats why i always laugh at people saying its rigged. if the league was struggling, maybe, but the nba has surpassed MLB imo as the second biggest sport in the country, based on numerous things such as tv deals, salaries, international following, sponsors, tv ratings, etc.
i would think the nhl would be a league where you could see a league wide fix.
Rewatch game 6 of the 2002 NBA playoffs: Lakers vs. Kings
and tell me this game wasn't rigged.
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Donaghy says under oath that the game was fixed:
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and tell me this game wasn't rigged.
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Donaghy says under oath that the game was fixed:
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Ralph Nader (former PRes. candidate) writes a letter to Stern
after game 6:
Ralph Nader and League of Fans' letter to NBA Commissioner David Stern regarding egregious officiating
June 4, 2002
Commissioner David J. Stern
National Basketball Association
Olympic Tower, 656 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Dear Mr. Stern,
At a time when the public's confidence is shaken by headlines reporting the breach of trust by corporate executives, it is important, during the public's relaxation time, for there to be maintained a sense of impartiality and professionalism in commercial sports performances. That sense was severely shaken in the now notorious officiating during Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings.
after game 6:
Ralph Nader and League of Fans' letter to NBA Commissioner David Stern regarding egregious officiating
June 4, 2002
Commissioner David J. Stern
National Basketball Association
Olympic Tower, 656 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Dear Mr. Stern,
At a time when the public's confidence is shaken by headlines reporting the breach of trust by corporate executives, it is important, during the public's relaxation time, for there to be maintained a sense of impartiality and professionalism in commercial sports performances. That sense was severely shaken in the now notorious officiating during Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings.
Calls by referees in the NBA are likely to be more subjective than in professional baseball or football. But as the judicious and balanced Washington Post sports columnist Michael Wilbon wrote this Sunday, too many of the calls in the fourth quarter (when the Lakers received 27 foul shots) were "stunningly incorrect," all against Sacramento. After noting that the three referees in Game 6 "are three of the best in the game," he wrote: "I have never seen officiating in a game of consequence as bad as that in Game 6....When Pollard, on his sixth and final foul, didn't as much as touch Shaq. Didn't touch any part of him. You could see it on TV, see it at courtside. It wasn't a foul in any league in the world. And Divac, on his fifth foul, didn't foul Shaq. They weren't subjective or borderline or debatable. And these fouls not only resulted in free throws, they helped disqualify Sacramento's two low-post defenders." And one might add, in a 106-102 Lakers' victory, this officiating took away what would have been a Sacramento series victory in 6 games.
This was not all. The Kobe Bryant elbow in the nose of Mike Bibby, who after lying on the floor groggy, went to the sideline bleeding, was in full view of the referee, who did nothing, prompted many fans to start wondering about what was motivating these officials.
Wilbon discounted any conspiracy theories about the NBA-NBC desire for a Game 7 etc., but unless the NBA orders a review of this game's officiating, perceptions and suspicions, however presently absent any evidence, will abound and lead to more distrust and distaste for the games in general. When the distinguished basketball writer for the USA Today, David DuPree, can say: "I've been covering the NBA for 30 years, and it's the poorest officiating in an important game I've ever seen," when Wilbon writes that "The Kings and Lakers didn't decide this series would be extended until Sunday; three referees did..." when many thousands of fans, not just those in Sacramento, felt that merit lost to bad refereeing, you need to take notice beyond the usual and widespread grumbling by fans and columnists about referees ignoring the rule book and giving advantages to home teams and superstars.
Your problem in addressing the pivotal Game 6 situation is that you have too much power. Where else can decision-makers (the referees) escape all responsibility to admit serious and egregious error and have their bosses (you) fine those wronged (the players and coaches) who dare to speak out critically?
In a February interview with David DuPree of USA Today, he asked you "Why aren't coaches and players allowed to criticize the referees?" You said, "...we don't want people questioning the integrity of officials. ...It just doesn't pay for us to do anything other than focus people on the game itself rather than the officiating." "Integrity" which we take you to mean "professionalism" of the referees has to be earned and when it is not, it has to be questioned. You and your league have a large and growing credibility problem. Referees are human and make mistakes, but there comes a point that goes beyond any random display of poor performance. That point was reached in Game 6 which took away the Sacramento Kings Western Conference victory.
It seems that you have a choice. You can continue to exercise your absolute power to do nothing. Or you can initiate a review and if all these observers and fans turn out to be right, issue, together with the referees, an apology to the Sacramento Kings and forthrightly admit decisive incompetence during Game 6, especially in the crucial fourth quarter.
You should know, however, that absolute power, if you choose the former course of inaction, invites the time when it is challenged and changed ý whether by more withdrawal of fans or by more formal legal or legislative action. No government in our country can lawfully stifle free speech and fine those who exercise it; the NBA under present circumstances can both stifle and fine players and coaches who speak up. There is no guarantee that this tyrannical status quo will remain stable over time, should you refuse to bend to reason and the reality of what occurred. A review that satisfies the fans' sense of fairness and deters future recurrences would be a salutary contribution to the public trust that the NBA badly needs.
We look forward to your considered response.
Sincerely,
Ralph Nader
P.O. Box 19312
Washington, DC 20036
P.O. Box 19312
Washington, DC 20036
Shawn McCarthy
League of Fans
P.O. Box 19367
Washington, DC 20036
League of Fans
P.O. Box 19367
Washington, DC 20036
2002 NBA playoffs lakers/kings
Kobe throws his elbow obviously purposefully right into Bibby's face - right
in front of the ref. (at the 2:40 mark)
No call. Even though the Lakers went to the line 27 times in the 4th qtr alone.
Listen to the announcer's comments.
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you just made the case for me, rigging a game for ratings is a benefit to the nba! the nba might be doing well but then again they just layed off a ton of employees. even if they are making money why wouldnt they want more? its always favorable to have big market teams continue to advance through the playoffs.
Even if the games are rigged the lines are based on past performance, injuries, momentum. If it is rigged we don't know it is rigged based on percentages the rigged games would go in your favor 50 percent of the time.... Just like juice when you bet... win 50 percent of your bets and you lose in the end because of the juice. I think it is funny when people talk about the games we lost because of rigging but never about the games we win because of rigging. If it is so prominent like we say sometimes then statistically it has to fall in your favor.
(<)< N.B.A. = National Bookie Association
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I dont think it is rigged and if it were it doesnt effect us the average gambler. Unless you know players, officials, or coachs personally it doesnt effect your avg pull or avg losses. It would even out. As for all of the examples I can give you the sam thin in evry othr sport. How about the braves walking 4 guys with the bases loaded and losing 12-11 afterr winning 10-3 after 7 innings.
What about the games that were rigged and you didn't detect them because either
A. you did not have a large wager on it or any wager on it
B. the public was nearly split on fav and underdog
C. Something happened in a game (fumble, injury, player not knowing a "fix" is on) and the rigged game goes against the fix.
Im just saying IMO if games were fixed it is too hard to keep it a secret. Why you ask...because people are greedy. When they find somthing they can make 1000 dollars on they then want 10000 then when they find something like that they want 50000 and more people get involved until somone leakes or somone finds out i.e. Donadumbass from the NBA. In other words if gams are rigged too many people would have their hand in the cookie jar to find out. Not to mention I hate to tll you but not everyone loves gambling as much as we do. Believe it or not some players would actually be truthful if they thought there was a fix on....
