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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="98%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=storytitle colSpan=3>For those that don't know...Washington and Oregon used to have themselves quite a bitter rivalry...this from the Washington perspective.

Is Bellotti better than Don James?
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</TD><TD noWrap width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top>By Derek Johnson
Dawgman.com
Posted Jul 11, 2007

It was last week’s blog article by Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News that stunned me into reality. The respected columnist wrote an interesting piece that listed the top ten coaches that the Pac-10 Conference has produced in the past twenty years.
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The name leading the list was no surprise — USC’s Pete Carroll was #1. The string of dominant teams and Heisman winners he has put together warrants that respect. It was also good to see Cal’s Jeff Tedford situated at #4. Considering that he took over a 1-10 team in 2002 and transformed it into a perennial conference contender, he certainly deserves accolades.

I was also pleased to see Washington’s current coach Tyrone Willingham appear #6 on the list. Wilner wrote, “Obviously, Willingham isn’t on the list because of his first two years in Seattle. But there is no way to argue with what he did at Stanford. Despite facing the highest admission standards in Division I-A, Willingham took the Cardinal to the Rose Bowl. And in his final three years on The Farm — once the roster was filled with his recruits — he was 17-7 in Pac-10 play. Stanford has been to just seven bowl games in the past 28 years, and Willingham is responsible for four of them.”

I also agreed whole-heartedly with Wilner’s take on former UCLA coach Terry Donahue. He wrote, “In my mind, Donahue underachieved in Westwood from 1987-95. He had all those players within two hours of campus, a terrific academic institution to recruit to and a mediocre crosstown rival. And yet, during that span, Donahue finished first or second only three times — and two of those came when he had Troy Aikman.”

However, the part of Wilner’s column that left me thunderstruck was seeing Oregon’s Mike Bellotti ranked No. 2 — ahead of Washington’s Don James, at No. 3. Admittedly, I am biased about Coach James. I just wrote a book about the guy, for crying out loud. And Oregon currently has a football program that is the relative envy of Washington — that’s for sure.

But up until now, I have always considered James to be the greatest coach in Pac-10 history - with Carroll closing fast. I also thought that Bellotti’s best seasons came from being propped up by offensive mastermind Jeff Tedford — his coordinator during the 2002 Fiesta Bowl onslaught over hapless Colorado. But Wilner really did his homework. His column is convincing and it altered my perception of Bellotti. My appreciation deepened for what Bellotti has accomplished in his twelve year stint in Eugene.

But is Mike Bellotti truly a better coach than Don James? I considered Wilner’s sterling assessment of the Oregon coach.

“Since taking over for (Rich) Brooks following the 1994 season,” wrote Wilner. “Bellotti has won eight games or more seven times. His program, with its sustained success, awesome facilities, and community support, is the model for the schools not located in recruiting hotbeds of Los Angeles and Seattle. Yes, the Ducks have gotten a ton of help from Nike in the latter part of the 1990s and early 00s, but guess what: Much of that help came as a result of Bellotti’s success. Think Phil Knight would have plowed all that money into a team that won five games each year?”

There is no arguing with those facts. But what about Washington’s national championship from 1991? Given my undeniable status as a Husky diehard, was the success from that one season clouding my judgment? Wilner also cited that the Washington program was 'out of control' for a few years under James. But certainly Wilner was aware that neither James nor any of his assistants were sanctioned for having done anything against NCAA rules?

I therefore decided to do my own research. I wanted to come face-to-face with the truth myself. What I discovered startled me - and a feeling of disbelief settled in. It seems that Bellotti is not only better than James — he might be one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Let’s take a quick look at the numbers:
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By God, Jon Wilner had it right. The numbers bear it out. Mike Bellotti is a better and more accomplished coach than Don James. In a world constantly in flux and overturning all notions of common sense, Wilner’s column reminds us that things are never as they seem.

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"But up until now, I have always considered James to be the greatest coach in Pac-10 history - with Carroll closing fast. I also thought that Bellotti’s best seasons came from being propped up by offensive mastermind Jeff Tedford — his coordinator during the 2002 Fiesta Bowl onslaught over hapless Colorado."


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He is a great coach. I will leave it at that. Tough to compare to all those other coaches but he runs a great program and team. Good call.
 

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I think Bill Walsh is just a little bit of a better coach than Belotti
 

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I don't understand, Belotti has two top ten finishes and ZERO Rose Bowls, If thats correct, the guy is not even on the same level as about 5 guys.
 

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I don't understand, Belotti has two top ten finishes and ZERO Rose Bowls, If thats correct, the guy is not even on the same level as about 5 guys.


I will give Belotti this. He put Oregon on the map. Oregon was a non-entity before he got there. And he did it without cheating, did it in a small market, and has put many players in the NFL.
 

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I will give Belotti this. He put Oregon on the map. Oregon was a non-entity before he got there. And he did it without cheating, did it in a small market, and has put many players in the NFL.

Ahhahahahahhaa...tell me again who was the coach last time they played in a Rose Bowl? (I'll give you a hint, he's a head coach in the SEC). You're continued Pac 10 ignorance is always amusing.

I think you meant to say Jeff Tedford put Bellotti on the map
 

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I don't understand, Belotti has two top ten finishes and ZERO Rose Bowls, If thats correct, the guy is not even on the same level as about 5 guys.

You have to read between the lines...the last graph says it all. The writer is poking fun at John Wilner, who said Mike Bellotti is as good (or nearly as good) as Don James.
 

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Ahhahahahahhaa...tell me again who was the coach last time they played in a Rose Bowl? (I'll give you a hint, he's a head coach in the SEC). You're continued Pac 10 ignorance is always amusing.

I think you meant to say Jeff Tedford put Bellotti on the map

I'll take Belotti over Tedford and Brooks any day of the week. Tedford is still looking for his first truly meangingful win, and don't give me the OT win over USC.
 

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I'll take Belotti over Tedford and Brooks any day of the week. Tedford is still looking for his first truly meangingful win, and don't give me the OT win over USC.

And Oregon's last meaningful postseason win since Tedford left was ? Oh yeah, they haven't won a bowl game since he left. Any idea what Tedford's bowl record is?
 

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And Oregon's last meaningful postseason win since Tedford left was ? Oh yeah, they haven't won a bowl game since he left.

So vote for Tedford as the greatest offensive coordinator in the history of the Pac-10.

Let me guess, you think Carroll is a better coach than John Robinson too
 

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So vote for Tedford as the greatest offensive coordinator in the history of the Pac-10.

We aren't talking about offensive coordinators. Bellotti took over a Rose Bowl team....Tedford took over one of the worst college football programs in the country. Which program is doing better now? Which program has had more success since Tedford became head coach?

Bellotti's best years just happened to be 1998 to 2001...I don't recall EVER hearing about Oregon's defense during those years. I know their offense was fairly prolific. Interesting those were the same years Jeff Tedford was their offensive coordinator.

Bellotti didn't build Oregon from the ashes, he was handed a Porsche with a trunkload of cash. Oregon has more $$$$ than Cal will ever have, a better stadium, better fan base. And if you took a poll of 100 Duck Fans and asked them who they would prefer as their head coach...more than half would say Jeff Tedford.

As for Pete Carroll vs. John Robinson...stupid argument. John Robinson coached at USC for what...20 years? He's a legend. Pete puts up another five years like he has than we can discuss it. It's kind of like comparing Tiger Woods at 23 to Jack Nicklaus.
 

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For the record, I don't think Bellotti is a bad coach, I just think he's run his course at Oregon.

If Oregon has a good year this year it very well may be his last. But he is probably the most arrogant coach in the Pac 10, he throws his player and coaches under the bus when he should really look in the mirror, and he's got a bit of a Napolean complex thing going.

I think he has reached the homestretch of his tenure as the Oregon Ducks gead coach.
 

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I HOPE he has reached the homestretch of his tenure as the Oregon Ducks gead coach.

I've had my doubts since the very day Tedford left.
 

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Personally I like both Tedford and Bellotti. They both offer a brand of exciting offensive football that I like to watch. But I would have to agree that if Bellotti doesn't do it this season with the team he has, then it probably will never happen for him as long as Pete Carroll is coaching at USC..
 

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Ducks have brought back a key member of the football/athletic department staff that departed with Tedford and the "hope of great facilities". I believe his last name is Bartko. There's a big billboard in town welcoming him back.

As great as Tedford is - he's one NFL head coaching job away from leaving for greenr pastures, and once SEC coach away from switching locations in college football. Tedford may have had success, but it's hard to mantain it when your own school doesn't know what it takes to keep winning. They have no future in Berkeley unless the Chancellor goes under and the locals leave.

No new facilities, no nothing. Tedford is essentially stuck and his promises of things to come no longer works. Hell, even the track coach just quit.
 

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If it looks like a Tedford, sounds like a Tedford, walks like a Tedford, it must be a Duck.
 

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What a stupid article with an obvious bias.

Any list that includes Tye Willingham a career .500 coach in the top 10 is immediately discounted.
As for Don James I very much doubt that he would have enjoyed the same sucess today that he did then he did not have any where near the competitive landscape to deal with that that p10 has now, particularily in the northwest. Additionally his teams were responsible for getting UW very serious sanctions and probations and when they got caught he quit on those kids.

I must have missed the graph showing years on probation under James, felons under james, and Sanctions levied under the dawgfather....
 

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What a stupid article with an obvious bias.

Any list that includes Tye Willingham a career .500 coach in the top 10 is immediately discounted.
As for Don James I very much doubt that he would have enjoyed the same sucess today that he did then he did not have any where near the competitive landscape to deal with that that p10 has now, particularily in the northwest. Additionally his teams were responsible for getting UW very serious sanctions and probations and when they got caught he quit on those kids.

I must have missed the graph showing years on probation under James, felons under james, and Sanctions levied under the dawgfather....

Why would any list that includes Willingham be discounted? Have you seen Stanford's act since he left? He had them ranked in the top 10 and in a Rose Bowl WIHTOUT CHEATING

"But there is no way to argue with what he did at Stanford. Despite facing the highest admission standards in Division I-A, Willingham took the Cardinal to the Rose Bowl. And in his final three years on The Farm — once the roster was filled with his recruits — he was 17-7 in Pac-10 play. Stanford has been to just seven bowl games in the past 28 years, and Willingham is responsible for four of them"
 

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Why would any list that includes Willingham be discounted? Have you seen Stanford's act since he left? He had them ranked in the top 10 and in a Rose Bowl WIHTOUT CHEATING

"But there is no way to argue with what he did at Stanford. Despite facing the highest admission standards in Division I-A, Willingham took the Cardinal to the Rose Bowl. And in his final three years on The Farm — once the roster was filled with his recruits — he was 17-7 in Pac-10 play. Stanford has been to just seven bowl games in the past 28 years, and Willingham is responsible for four of them"

And look at what Charlie Weiss has done since he took over for Willingham at ND. So far, since Willingham left, the Irish have limped through with Ty's recruits (including Brady Quinn.) This year could be a disaster for them. Ty's gotten a bum deal ever since then. UW isn't known for being too kind to their HC's since Don James left. This season is no different. Tough break for a pretty good coach.
 

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