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Your blind hatred makes you post reaaaaally stupid things.

Clue for you: That "cheating and penalty imbalance" line makes you look really stupid.



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Speaking of really stupid, look who's the idiot now!



[h=3]Patriots’ Penalty Differential, 2011–17[/h]
StatRegular SeasonPlayoffs
New England Penalties vs. Opponents'13% less25% less
New England Penalty Yards vs. Opponents'10% less35% less

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[h=3]Penalties by Severity, 2011–17 Playoffs[/h]
Yards PenalizedPatriotsOpponents
0 – 53849
6 – 142122
15 +1122

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[h=3]Patriots’ Penalty Differential, 2011–17[/h]
StatNew England vs. OpponentsNFL Rank in the Split
Penalties in Other Games2% more20
Penalty Yards in Other Games2% more22
Penalties in Close Games24% less1
Penalty Yards in Close Games21% less1

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His assistants seem to have an affinity for taking awful jobs, I'm sure that plays a role.

Agree, Walsh is a more innovative coach than Belichick as far as his contribution to the game but he also came along when there was more low hanging fruit on the tree. Teams threw the ball way less before the '78 rule changes so of course there was room for massive exploitation of strategy in the 80's.

I don't really care who deserves to be called the best coach ever as it is way too subjective but there is a reason no one has really come along in the last 20-25 years with a sustainable offensive strategy that everyone has copied, because there isn't one to create. Everything works until the fast adapting organism of the NFL says it doesn't. Or you don't have the talent anymore to execute.


So all of Belicheats assistants have taken awful jobs while Walsh's assistants all got lucky and took "great" jobs. Gotcha!
 

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You can kick and scream all you want, you just can't rewrite history

Got rings?
 

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Not kicking or screaming just pointing out facts. Walsh's assistants won numerous Super Bowls. Coaching tree produced 8, should be 9 Super Bowls championships (Super Bowl 40 crock of shit) and numerous Super Bowl appearances. They learned from the best. Bellicheats assistants must all be dumb or suffered from amnesia seeing as none of them have won shit. Tens of thousands of hours, of watching game film, strategies, practices etc etc... and all these coaches haven't learned anything from the "master" Difference is, those assistants don't cheat or have the benefit of penalties in their favor. How else can you explain so many assistants being hired and none of them successful?
 
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I just have to laugh at the stupidity. Anyone who watches replays of Superbowl 51, where Atlanta led 28-3 late in the 3rd quarter... and doesn't bow down to the GOAT, is ... an idiot.


As if Drew Bledsoe could have pulled that off... ROFL

Cuz, it's just a "system" right?
 

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Patriots commit less penalties than their opponents because..... that's who they are. They are WELL-COACHED. They don't beat themselves.


Belichick is the GOAT.
 
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Don Shula... ROFL. Says the guy from Florida.

Don barely reached .500 in his career in the playoffs.
He's not in the conversation.

If I'm tough one Bill, he can become the best! Don still has the most wins. Period. Longevity and consistency matters. Also, perfect season Bill never got! If Miami had not lost Csonka, Kiick and Warfield to the WFL after that 2nd Super Bowl win in 1974, the Dolphins would have won the next 7 out of 10 Super Bowls, and it would be clear who is best. Bill needs to just keep his head down, and maybe someday catch Don :)
 

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Bill is the GOAT caz he knows a bunch of football stuff and he makes the football fans be happy! cheersgifcheersgifcheersgif
 

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IMO I think if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt, they still beat the Rams and possibly we may be talking about Bledsoe and Belichick.


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I actually think he is UNDERRATED if that's possible.

I say that because Brady is very OVERRATED.

Coach deserves the credit. Kraft also.

Brady has enjoyed the most stable environment and best circumstances to succeed.

The Kraft and coach Bill partnership has been a Godsend to Brady.

Of course this isn't to say that Brady isn't a large part of the success in New England but in noway shape or form is he the GOAT.

Anybody making that weak argument is probably from Boston or nearby.

These would be the same people trying to convince themselves that Lebron is the GOAT over Jordan.

Coach Bill is a genius.
 

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Not kicking or screaming just pointing out facts. Walsh's assistants won numerous Super Bowls. Coaching tree produced 8, should be 9 Super Bowls championships (Super Bowl 40 crock of shit) and numerous Super Bowl appearances. They learned from the best. Bellicheats assistants must all be dumb or suffered from amnesia seeing as none of them have won shit. Tens of thousands of hours, of watching game film, strategies, practices etc etc... and all these coaches haven't learned anything from the "master" Difference is, those assistants don't cheat or have the benefit of penalties in their favor. How else can you explain so many assistants being hired and none of them successful?

how do you know who's cheating? so because you dont get caught cheating your not cheating? the object is to win.
 
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I actually think he is UNDERRATED if that's possible.

I say that because Brady is very OVERRATED.

Coach deserves the credit. Kraft also.

Brady has enjoyed the most stable environment and best circumstances to succeed.

The Kraft and coach Bill partnership has been a Godsend to Brady.

Of course this isn't to say that Brady isn't a large part of the success in New England but in noway shape or form is he the GOAT.

Anybody making that weak argument is probably from Boston or nearby.

These would be the same people trying to convince themselves that Lebron is the GOAT over Jordan.

Coach Bill is a genius.

"Anybody making that weak argument is probably from Boston or nearby."

You are just not very bright.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...of-fame-players-call-tom-brady-the-best-ever/
Who do the best players of all time consider the best player of all time?
An impressive list of Hall of Fame players say that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who will try to win his sixth Super Bowl ring on Sunday, has already established himself as the greatest ever to play the game.
Here’s a list, compiled by NFL writer Dov Kleiman, of Hall of Famers on the record saying that Brady is the best ever to play:
Emmitt Smith: “The best quarterback ever to play the game is Tom Brady, in my opinion. Without a doubt.”
Deion Sanders: “It’s the Brady era. You can’t get no better than that.”
Michael Irvin: “All of us living should understand how blessed we are to be in this moment while he’s doing what he’s doing. I say yes to comparing him to [Michael] Jordan, and I think what he’s doing is more difficult.”
Jerry Rice: “I always felt Jim Brown was the best ever. But Tom Brady, you have to put him up there.”
Jim Kelly: “The best. No doubt.”
Troy Aikman: “It was always an easy answer, it was Joe Montana. Now . . . I’ve changed my tune. I think [Brady is] the greatest to play our sport.”
Shannon Sharpe: “Tom Brady is the greatest football player in the 97-year history of the NFL.”


https://www.patspulpit.com/2019/2/2...-ever-aaron-rodgers-brett-favre-michael-irvin

Tom Brady is good. Really, really good. And that’s not just the opinion of multiple talking heads, writers, or analysts but also of players both active or already retired. NFL reporter Dov Kleiman recently compiled a list of those calling the New England Patriots’ quarterback the greatest ever, and the list reads like a who’s who of NFL royalty — including multiple Hall of Famers and players soon to join their ranks.
According to Kleiman, the following players have at one point called Brady the GOAT:
Jerry Rice, Brett Favre, Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin, Deion Sanders, Troy Aikman, Ed Reed, Aaron Rodgers, Darrelle Revis, Barry Sanders, Kurt Warner, Emmitt Smith, Jim Kelly, Shannon Sharpe, Michael Strahan, Anthony Muñoz, Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne, Von Miller, Fran Tarkenton, Joe Theismann
Pro Football Talk’s Michael David Smith together with Kleiman compiled some of the quotes from those players about Brady, who is currently preparing to play in his ninth Super Bowl — a record that might never be broken again. “I think Tom Brady is the greatest football player we’ve ever had,” said former New York Giants defensive end turned TV personality Michael Strahan about the 41-year old.
“He’s got five championships. I think that ends most discussions,” fellow quarterback Aaron Rodgers had to say about Brady — a sentiment shared by two of his former teammates as well. Randy Moss said that he gave Brady his “vote for the greatest to ever lace them up,” while Reggie Wayne, who spent only a few days in New England before retiring, compared him favorably to another future Hall of Famer.
“Everybody knows I played for the Indianapolis Colts,” said Wayne who spent 14 seasons with the club before signing a free agency deal with the Patriots — he did, however, never actually appear in a game alongside Brady. “I played with one of the best quarterbacks of all time in Peyton Manning. It’s hard for me to say this, but it’s true: Tom Brady is the best of all time.”
On Sunday, Brady can add to his already legendary résumé and status as the greatest quarterback of all time by adding a sixth Super Bowl ring to his collection.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-execs-rank-best-quarterbacks-modern-era-2017
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mbled one of those, which might be the last time everyone reading this treatise nods in solidarity.
</figure>Pete Carroll, Tony Dungy, Mike Holmgren, Howard Mudd, Wade Phillips, Mike Reinfeldt, Ray Rhodes, Mike Shanahan, Al Saunders and Norv Turner possess a combined 330 seasons of NFL experience. All 10 are Super Bowl champions, having combined for 20 rings in 30 opportunities.<iframe class="teads-resize" style="box-sizing: border-box; width: 565px; height: 0px !important; min-height: 0px !important; border-width: initial !important; border-style: none !important; margin: 0px !important; padding: 0px !important; display: block !important;"></iframe>
The 10 bejeweled members of this exalted NFL tribunal agreed to rank their top 10 quarterbacks since 1978 -- more on the time frame in a moment -- while discussing the various quarterbacks on the record.



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</aside>Panelists received an information packet with stats and career accolades for quarterbacks who were Hall of Famers, likely future Hall of Famers or highly ranked in major statistical categories since 1978, when the NFL ushered in a new era by changing blocking and coverage rules to open up the passing game. Panelists were instructed to use their own criteria.
This exercise was more like completing a deep out into the teeth of the blitz than checking it down to the halfback underneath a soft zone.
"I went 'round and 'round and 'round," Turner said. "I probably had 20 lists, and then you feel like, when you're done, you're leaving someone out to get it to 10."
Hall of Famers Terry Bradshaw and Ken Stabler were notable players excluded from the survey because some of their most significant seasons fell before the 1978 cutoff. Hall of Famer Dan Fouts also played extensively before 1978. He was included in the survey because his career took off beginning in 1978, when Don Coryell took over as the San Diego Chargers' head coach.
Final rankings were determined by how frequently each quarterback outranked the others who received votes across all 10 ballots -- call it the GOAT Index. For example, Tom Brady was ranked above the other QBs 87 percent of the time. Peyton Manning (80 percent) and Joe Montana (78) were next, followed by John Elway (67 percent), Aaron Rodgers (56) and so on. But enough on the math. Let's get to the best QBs of the past four decades!
Note: Italics denote my commentary below. I didn't vote in the survey. Read through the full file, or jump to your favorite QB using the quick links below.
 

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[FONT=&quot]I say that because Brady is very OVERRATED.

Haha

Under rated as he pays him self less so he can surround himself with good talent.[/FONT]
 

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