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wow you're nuts. after all this time you have no idea what a fiscal conservative thinks of the fed
 

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Give me an example of a POUS who was a fiscal conservative.

Warren G Harding? Calvin Coolidge? Herbert Hoover ? Andrew Jackson?
 

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I hope he is learning about evolution so he can be well rounded educationally.
 

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Give me an example of a POUS who was a fiscal conservative.

Warren G Harding? Calvin Coolidge? Herbert Hoover ? Andrew Jackson?

by today's standards? anyone before Jimmy Carter save for FDR.
 

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Well the 1st 3 were the chain of laissez-faire republicans that looked the other way while greedy bankers built a house of cards that caused the great depression.

The controls that FDR put in place protected us until Dubya and company thought laissz-faire would be just great.

Jackson was a populist that abolished the federal bank because he disagreed with it he also stole some citizens land to give to others. Just like Adolf Hitler.
 

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how many americans and iraqis have died in iraq due to meddling?

to date the casualties in iran are low and no revolution is going to be bloodless

the more we get involved the more they will be able to rally up the anti-protester anti-US sentiment to counteract all this we are dealing with a divided nation here....and the protesters will be silenced....and the noose tightens on the people

maybe we should just invade now and kill tons of iranians and americans sounds like a plan....and just hope for the best

you right wing interventionists are a hoot

do you even understand what the term conservative means?

by the way i find it kinda funny that the righties who want to force their morals onto society in this case are supporting the ones that want to have freedom to rebel against the hardliners oppressive rules related to religion and such

kinda ironic...

the left/right debate is just a total joke at this point

nobody on either side can admit the other is right on anything

its obama wrong all the time or dubya wrong all the time

no in between and the reason our country is going to shit

This is an excellent rant.

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the more we get involved the more they will be able to rally up the anti-protester anti-US sentiment to counteract all this we are dealing with a divided nation here....and the protesters will be silenced....and the noose tightens on the people

Tiz I understand the point you are trying to make. I myself am not sure what Obama should do. A bit of a stronger statement, at least saying that the US sides with the forces of freedom and democracy and opposes tyranny would be a decent message. Just know this -- Hate and irrationality needs no excuse. Blameshifting, scapegoating, and rallying around false causes is what keeps despots in power and strangles the voices of opposition. In other words, regardless of what the US does the Iranian tyrants will accuse us of meddling. So meddle....
 

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Tiz I understand the point you are trying to make. I myself am not sure what Obama should do. A bit of a stronger statement, at least saying that the US sides with the forces of freedom and democracy and opposes tyranny would be a decent message. Just know this -- Hate and irrationality needs no excuse. Blameshifting, scapegoating, and rallying around false causes is what keeps despots in power and strangles the voices of opposition. In other words, regardless of what the US does the Iranian tyrants will accuse us of meddling. So meddle....

Yes, because meddling in other countries affairs has worked out so well for us. The term "blowback" is meaningless to some people.

We poke our big fucking beak where it doesn't belong, and then later try to sit down with the same clowns we were just stoking a revolution against for nuclear negotionations. Does that make the least amount of sense to anyone?

Some of you guys are so short sighted it's mind boggling.

How about, for once, we mind our own fucking business?
 

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Comparing Jackson to Hitler :ohno:


Well the 1st 3 were the chain of laissez-faire republicans that looked the other way while greedy bankers built a house of cards that caused the great depression.

The controls that FDR put in place protected us until Dubya and company thought laissz-faire would be just great.

Jackson was a populist that abolished the federal bank because he disagreed with it he also stole some citizens land to give to others. Just like Adolf Hitler.
 
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How about, for once, we mind our own fucking business? DEC

I second that and third that.

It's none of our damned business whether Iran is a Theocracy or a Democracy or some permutation of the two.
 

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Tiz I understand the point you are trying to make. I myself am not sure what Obama should do. A bit of a stronger statement, at least saying that the US sides with the forces of freedom and democracy and opposes tyranny would be a decent message. Just know this -- Hate and irrationality needs no excuse. Blameshifting, scapegoating, and rallying around false causes is what keeps despots in power and strangles the voices of opposition. In other words, regardless of what the US does the Iranian tyrants will accuse us of meddling. So meddle....

accusing is alot different than actually doing

dubya would probably be up there shouting Ahmid(however u spell it) is a tyrant, thug, and an oppressor and such and such

and they'd blast it loud and clear on their propaganda machine TV station

and would likely rile up the pro Ahmid crowd

guys like Ahmid hold power and feed on external enemies to keep control and oppress its people.....their domestic economy and such has been turned to shambles under his regime

on top of the fact the people of iran should be allowed to figure out their idea of freedom and what type of system they want

not go in guns a blazing like iraq and show them what freedom is all about (lots of deaths, lots of pain and suffering, that the people of iraq never chose)
 

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The Iranian government, meanwhile, accused the U.S. for the first time of interfering in the postelection dispute. Iran protested to the Swiss ambassador, who represents U.S. affairs in Iran because the two nations have no diplomatic ties.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124523854750623001.html
 

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Yes, because meddling in other countries affairs has worked out so well for us. The term "blowback" is meaningless to some people.

We poke our big fucking beak where it doesn't belong, and then later try to sit down with the same clowns we were just stoking a revolution against for nuclear negotionations. Does that make the least amount of sense to anyone?

Some of you guys are so short sighted it's mind boggling.

How about, for once, we mind our own fucking business?

And how about if we mind our own business, and the forces of oppression crush the opposition, and the terror-sponsoring despots remain in power? When it's quite possible that a little push [and I never said militarily] from us might help topple the evil.

You are dealing with a bunch of lying thugs who are going to accuse the US of meddling whether we meddle or not. As I said, shifting blame on the US and Israel is what oppressive regimes do to whip up their own populations into a frenzy of displaced anger at others so the leaders are not taken to task for the depths of depravity their subjects live under.

I never said I was sure my opinion was right. But why are you so sure our gov't should do nothing? What if the French had done nothing during our Revolution?

And by the way there is no way Iran will negotiate away its nukes.
 

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Do we mind our own business when other countries suffer earthquakes, floods, famine and disease...or just when we're afraid things might get messy?
 

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Do we mind our own business when other countries suffer earthquakes, floods, famine and disease...or just when we're afraid things might get messy?


Providing humanitarian aid after a natural disaster is something completely different than meddling in a countries internal affairs. You should know better than to make a false correlation like this.
 

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And how about if we mind our own business, and the forces of oppression crush the opposition, and the terror-sponsoring despots remain in power? When it's quite possible that a little push [and I never said militarily] from us might help topple the evil.

You are dealing with a bunch of lying thugs who are going to accuse the US of meddling whether we meddle or not. As I said, shifting blame on the US and Israel is what oppressive regimes do to whip up their own populations into a frenzy of displaced anger at others so the leaders are not taken to task for the depths of depravity their subjects live under.

I never said I was sure my opinion was right. But why are you so sure our gov't should do nothing? What if the French had done nothing during our Revolution?

And by the way there is no way Iran will negotiate away its nukes.


Again I ask: What business is it of ours?
 

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