If you owned an NFL team mike I would hope your team played in the NFC South and not named the Saints. Haha jk
As for the Ryan brothers.
I like Rob Ryan and don't put any of the blame for what is happening to the Saints on him.
When you are starting a safety that was on another teams practice squad 2 weeks before there is only so much you can do.
The Saints have about 70 million dollars worth of safeties on IR right now.
As for the Ryan brothers.
I like Rob Ryan and don't put any of the blame for what is happening to the Saints on him.
When you are starting a safety that was on another teams practice squad 2 weeks before there is only so much you can do.
The Saints have about 70 million dollars worth of safeties on IR right now.
No I'm saying in 2008 Ben Roethlisberger was a far better QB than a rookie Joe Flacco. Hence why the Steelers pretty much owned that rivalry vs the Ravens.
And no I never implied that. You said after a few years his stuff doesn't work anymore or something, almost making the superbowl in your 4th year probably would indicate there isn't an expiration date on his coaching methods.
And no I never implied that. You said after a few years his stuff doesn't work anymore or something, almost making the superbowl in your 4th year probably would indicate there isn't an expiration date on his coaching methods.
Are you trying to imply that if he had the same caliber of players that other DC's had that year he would have performed above average?.....not buying it.
You took a one year snapshot out of a career where he caught lightning in a bottle because his owner and general manager put together one of the best group of defensive players ever assembled to play for him.
What one year snapshot? He has had many years coaching good defenses with two different teams.
He caught lightning in a bottle one year yet the next 2 years he had success with an entirely different team? You are suspending a lot of disbelief with that one.
Pretty much all of his success has come on teams with limited QB stability and that is the biggest edge/correlation to team success you can have in the NFL.
He caught lightning in a bottle one year yet the next 2 years he had success with an entirely different team? You are suspending a lot of disbelief with that one.
Pretty much all of his success has come on teams with limited QB stability and that is the biggest edge/correlation to team success you can have in the NFL.
Do you realize that 2 of his 4 years as DC with Baltimore he had a losing record? As a matter of fact it was terrible.
You want to take that one year where he was assembled an All-Star team and just because it was in his 4th year use that as the bell weather of his coaching career?
Even you could have had excellent Defensive numbers with that group of guys.
You are jumping from DC to HC, then back......as a DC with Baltimore he had 2 winning seasons and 2 losing seasons in his 4 years there. He did this with one of the best group of talent ever assembled on one side of the ball. He only went 2-2.
We can talk about the JETS if you want too but let's not try to marry and mix the two together to suit a side to an arguement.
Maintaining defense is much harder than maintaining offense in the NFL. Pretty much why all teams try to build around offense.
Just way too many variables to sustain top tier defense on a regular basis. They were terrible offensively and decimated with injuries those 2 years.
You said after a few years his stuff doesn't work or something based on a sample size of 1 with a Jets team that was highly deficient offensively. I'm not even sure what doesn't work ater a few years? The schemes? the players stop buying in? Sounds like an ESPN type narrative thing with no factual basis to me.
Just way too many variables to sustain top tier defense on a regular basis. They were terrible offensively and decimated with injuries those 2 years.
You said after a few years his stuff doesn't work or something based on a sample size of 1 with a Jets team that was highly deficient offensively. I'm not even sure what doesn't work ater a few years? The schemes? the players stop buying in? Sounds like an ESPN type narrative thing with no factual basis to me.
No factual basis?
How about his record?
You brought up his history with Baltimore as a DC, that's the only record that I have referenced. Now you are talking about a sample size with the Jets?
Just so you are aware, he was a DC with Baltimore for 3 years, than , DC/assistant HC with them for a 4th year before going to the JETS. He has only been HC over there (starting in 2009 till present).
He has only been with a team after a few years twice in his entire career. The Jets, a team with no QB and no offense have struggled the last few years, as do most teams with no QB over a large sample in the NFL. Why would he be immune to that?
You are the one pushing the "few years" narrative that I've never even heard anyone say before. What do you think in his skillset doesn't work after a few years that works the first few years? The schemes? Motivational factors?
What is the reason his ability to coach defenses regresses as time goes on in your opinion? I really don't view coaches or players like that, just pretty much on what I think their ability is, so obviously I have no clue.
