If you had to move outside the US..

Search

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2008
Messages
2,604
Tokens
Northern part of the island (Jurere Internacional), like that part most because it's quite outside of high season and during high season itself you get great nightlife and it's still easy to get to some quieter beaches to catch some waves.
There are some nice restaurants around, too, even though they can be a bit on the expensive side for Brazilian standards and lots of below average places, but tbh I don't care much about that because moving to CR (and Brazil afterwards) made me make some life changes and one of those was to eat healthier and therefore I started to cook at home most of the time. Here you have easy access to fresh fish and decent fruit & vegetables, even though I still believe that I would give the advantage to Nosara, CR, in that regard. And for the occasional dinner out, there are places like Donna, RED Dining and a few good sushi places...so even though they def. charge more than your typical Brazilian places, they offer decent food and it still ends up way cheaper than a comparable meal in Western Europe.
Have been to a couple of Reggae bars around here and spent quite some time in Barra over the last few years, but not sure which place exactly you're talking about. Chilly water isn't a problem, at least the waves aren't crowded, for anything else you just get a wetsuit and you're set.
Probably isn't for everybody, like pretty much every place. But for your typical foreigner places like Floripa or Balneario Camboriu (or Coritiba) are probably better suited than most others since they are rather safe cities and kind of "westernized". But unless you speak some Portuguese or at least some Spanish, I probably wouldn't recommend either place to most people because you would def. run into some problems due to the language barrier and might also have some trouble making friends/building a social life despite Brazilians to be very open and welcoming. Would be less of a problem in CR imo.
 

Conservatives, Patriots & Huskies return to glory
Handicapper
Joined
Sep 9, 2005
Messages
87,149
Tokens
Unless you are in the mediternean coast or in sardinia, the food is overrated in italy. unless you love blant pasta and pizza and rock hard bread.

the Mediterranean Coast covers a large part of Italy, and I thought the food was amazing

My guess is you may not have much (if any) family there. The little mountain towns have the best homemade cooking, and the seafood is as good as it gets all along the coast
 

Medium Rare
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Messages
1,927
Tokens
Northern part of the island (Jurere Internacional), like that part most because it's quite outside of high season and during high season itself you get great nightlife and it's still easy to get to some quieter beaches to catch some waves.
There are some nice restaurants around, too, even though they can be a bit on the expensive side for Brazilian standards and lots of below average places, but tbh I don't care much about that because moving to CR (and Brazil afterwards) made me make some life changes and one of those was to eat healthier and therefore I started to cook at home most of the time. Here you have easy access to fresh fish and decent fruit & vegetables, even though I still believe that I would give the advantage to Nosara, CR, in that regard. And for the occasional dinner out, there are places like Donna, RED Dining and a few good sushi places...so even though they def. charge more than your typical Brazilian places, they offer decent food and it still ends up way cheaper than a comparable meal in Western Europe.
Have been to a couple of Reggae bars around here and spent quite some time in Barra over the last few years, but not sure which place exactly you're talking about. Chilly water isn't a problem, at least the waves aren't crowded, for anything else you just get a wetsuit and you're set.
Probably isn't for everybody, like pretty much every place. But for your typical foreigner places like Floripa or Balneario Camboriu (or Coritiba) are probably better suited than most others since they are rather safe cities and kind of "westernized". But unless you speak some Portuguese or at least some Spanish, I probably wouldn't recommend either place to most people because you would def. run into some problems due to the language barrier and might also have some trouble making friends/building a social life despite Brazilians to be very open and welcoming. Would be less of a problem in CR imo.

Jurere is nice for partying but I can't live there. Clubs in general are overpriced and its a hangout for some local celebs too...lot of people just there for status show, bunch of gold diggers too. But it is beautiful and nice to visit on a weekend but i couldn't live there. That place must get boring in the low season unless you like the quiteness...also far from everywhere.

If you are used to the night life in Jurere then you probably wont have fun in that place that I told you about in Barra da lagoa....that hidden place is the only place worth going for night life in barra. Its chilled back live rastafarian music with a secluded private bay beach ( very small). In the high season lots of international crowd and lots of horny good looking international women...if you want a break from the local gringo chasers!
 

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2008
Messages
2,604
Tokens
Jurere is nice for partying but I can't live there. Clubs in general are overpriced and its a hangout for some local celebs too...lot of people just there for status show, bunch of gold diggers too. But it is beautiful and nice to visit on a weekend but i couldn't live there. That place must get boring in the low season unless you like the quiteness...also far from everywhere.

If you are used to the night life in Jurere then you probably wont have fun in that place that I told you about in Barra da lagoa....that hidden place is the only place worth going for night life in barra. Its chilled back live rastafarian music with a secluded private bay beach ( very small). In the high season lots of international crowd and lots of horny good looking international women...if you want a break from the local gringo chasers!
I'm not out partying that much anymore, tbh can't really stand most of the crowds at (overrated) places like Cafe de la Musique, especially during high season. But lots of churrascos (BBQs)/pool parties and other stuff to do with friends, so for me it's perfect. I like places that are more tranquil, quiet and laid back.
During low season, usually you still get nice weather for most part (even though this year Oct/Nov sucked since it rained pretty much for 2months nonstop). Several good gyms nearby to work out, nice trails in the Floripa area, ample opportunities to go for a run, cycling or swim, several good surf spots within a 20-30min drive, same applies for different types of beaches.
Almost anything else is a 25min drive away in the centre (unless you are into museums, art, theatre and stuff...) or a 40min drive to the airport, which gets you to Rio or SP in less than 1hr or to Buenos Aires in about 2hrs. So pretty easy to get around, even though I barely feel the surge to do so for now.
Like always depends what you're looking for, but I love Florianopolis besides you get pretty much all amenities of a city, but still are very close to quieter areas and lots of beautiful nature.

Another place besides Portugual I would might consider is Croatia: Language barrier would be a major turnoff though because I'm not intending to pick up another language for now and go through that annoying transition period again, when you aren't really able talk to most locals and regularly have trouble in everyday life because of the lack of language skills...also not sure if Croatia would suit me because I've never been there (but never had been to CR before moving there for 1yr or Brazil before moving here for the last 4yrs, so that's not a problem in my opinion because I'd just move on).
But places like Dubrovnik or several of the mediterranean islands there are absolutely gorgeous and stunning, plus it's still rather cheap to live there (Dubrovnik not as much as other places because of the tourism though...).
 

Medium Rare
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Messages
1,927
Tokens
the Mediterranean Coast covers a large part of Italy, and I thought the food was amazing

My guess is you may not have much (if any) family there. The little mountain towns have the best homemade cooking, and the seafood is as good as it gets all along the coast

When you say mountain towns, i hope you don't mean the Tuscan country side mountains. I don't really consider them mountain towns. The real mountain towns are more north on the way to swiss/austria. I don't have family there but have some friends and their families and they are all excellent hosts....very family oriented and way more welcoming than a typical american friend's family. Tuscany is great to explore with your significant other...lots of nice little towns in the country site that would make great photoes, good wine all along but the food is only good for the first wee or so and then you would get bored fast because of lack of variety. But if you love pasta, pista and smoked meat, cheese for ever with good wine selection then its ok. When i say cheese and smoked meat don't picture typical american smoked meat and cheese that are mostly not even cheese or meat...these are real good fresh cheese and real good smoked meat....delicious but i can't eat them every day!

Best food italy that i had was in La Spezzia and the non touristy restaurants along cinque terre....the north most village out of the 5 villages has some the best local restaurants if you get past the tourist spots. I love the stuffed anchovies and the other seafood. When i say anchovies, don't picture the crappy pickled/bottled ones that we see here...i am talking fresh anchovies. LA Spezzia was surprisingly multicultural when it cames to restaurants and grocerry stores and they had wide variety other than the typical pasta/pizza/bread/smoked meats.

If you go to Pisa, one must make the 45 or so min drive to la spezzia and cinque terre. i rather live in la spezzia than pisa. pisa once you get past seeing the leaning tower and surrounding gets very boring.
 

Medium Rare
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Messages
1,927
Tokens
I'm not out partying that much anymore, tbh can't really stand most of the crowds at (overrated) places like Cafe de la Musique, especially during high season. But lots of churrascos (BBQs)/pool parties and other stuff to do with friends, so for me it's perfect. I like places that are more tranquil, quiet and laid back.
During low season, usually you still get nice weather for most part (even though this year Oct/Nov sucked since it rained pretty much for 2months nonstop). Several good gyms nearby to work out, nice trails in the Floripa area, ample opportunities to go for a run, cycling or swim, several good surf spots within a 20-30min drive, same applies for different types of beaches.
Almost anything else is a 25min drive away in the centre (unless you are into museums, art, theatre and stuff...) or a 40min drive to the airport, which gets you to Rio or SP in less than 1hr or to Buenos Aires in about 2hrs. So pretty easy to get around, even though I barely feel the surge to do so for now.
Like always depends what you're looking for, but I love Florianopolis besides you get pretty much all amenities of a city, but still are very close to quieter areas and lots of beautiful nature.

Another place besides Portugual I would might consider is Croatia: Language barrier would be a major turnoff though because I'm not intending to pick up another language for now and go through that annoying transition period again, when you aren't really able talk to most locals and regularly have trouble in everyday life because of the lack of language skills...also not sure if Croatia would suit me because I've never been there (but never had been to CR before moving there for 1yr or Brazil before moving here for the last 4yrs, so that's not a problem in my opinion because I'd just move on).
But places like Dubrovnik or several of the mediterranean islands there are absolutely gorgeous and stunning, plus it's still rather cheap to live there (Dubrovnik not as much as other places because of the tourism though...).

Have you checked out the south (campeche and pantanao do sul) of floripa yet? its the opposite of jurere....quite locals living regular life but still great. locals are much more friendlier there and real. When i went to jurere it had a lot of posers but i might have been there at the wrong time. Since you are mentioning trails and stuff, you should check out those two places....great hiking area through the hills and the views of the beach from the other side are amazing. floripa is great but the roads in the islands are not great and in the high season the traffic is crazy no matter where you want to go.

Interesting that you mention Croatia. I plan go to there and Greece soon.
 

Capper Tracker
Joined
Jan 15, 2009
Messages
5,458
Tokens
Southern Africa. Lived there a very very long time and absolutely loved it.
 

Medium Rare
Joined
Mar 12, 2007
Messages
1,927
Tokens
Southern Africa. Lived there a very very long time and absolutely loved it.

Too dangerous. Don't get me wrong, south africa is beautiful but overall its not safe at all, especially if you are from a western country. There are quieter and safer remote areas but i still wouldn't feel safe there.

If your house/condo is not in a closed gated area that has full security, you wouldnt sleep good. I never lived there long enough to know much or traveled around but stayed in capetown and port elizabeth for few days. It could be one of the best countries to live in if they get their shit together and lower corruption and crime....I guess you can say that about a lot of countries but still.
 

Capper Tracker
Joined
Jan 15, 2009
Messages
5,458
Tokens
Never lived in South Africa. Botswana,Malawi, Kenya and Zambia. Never 1 security issue in 7 years. As long as you stay away from Nairobi and Joberg you will never have an issue. Of course I wouldnt go into the cities late at night because you would just be asking for trouble.


Too dangerous. Don't get me wrong, south africa is beautiful but overall its not safe at all, especially if you are from a western country. There are quieter and safer remote areas but i still wouldn't feel safe there.

If your house/condo is not in a closed gated area that has full security, you wouldnt sleep good. I never lived there long enough to know much or traveled around but stayed in capetown and port elizabeth for few days. It could be one of the best countries to live in if they get their shit together and lower corruption and crime....I guess you can say that about a lot of countries but still.
 
Joined
Dec 19, 2011
Messages
2,361
Tokens
Puerto Vallarta Mexico. Great weather. Great restaurants. Friendly people. Language is not a problem. Medical and dental are very good and cheap. All kinds of stores Costco, Wall Mart, shopping malls. Just about anything you can find in the states and least of all casinos and sports books. The down side to the sports book is you have to pay tax on winning. It varies by casino. I have been going there for 30 years. Last 8 years been spending the winter there 2 to 3 months you can't beat it.
 

Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2008
Messages
2,604
Tokens
Have you checked out the south (campeche and pantanao do sul) of floripa yet? its the opposite of jurere....quite locals living regular life but still great. locals are much more friendlier there and real. When i went to jurere it had a lot of posers but i might have been there at the wrong time.
Never really been to Pantanao do Sul, but have a few friends living in Campeche. It's a nice beach to chill, but I prefer the Northern part of the island. And when you compare those areas, don't base your opinion about Jurere on tourists or people that only spend a few weeks during high season there. For most part they don't have that much in common with the people you live there all year around, I sincerely doubt that you would find a large difference in attitude between local residents in Jurere, centro, Santinho, Lagoa or Campeche...
You're right about the roads and traffic, but most of the time traffic is still ok, esp. compared to other cities and larger traffic jams are more or less reduced to rush hour (so it's not that different from most larger cities, even though Floripa itself isn't really that large of city). During high season it's really bad though for most part, but then again why would I even want to travel that much during that time? The vast majority of my friends is already here, nightlife (in case I felt like it) is in walking distance or (depending on traffic) a 10-20min cab ride away (after midnight traffic isn't that much of a problem anymore, esp. going into that direction) and during day time it's less than a 5min walk to the beach/beach clubs and in case I want to surf or a quiet beach, it's usually less than 30min away, even with traffic and often times by bicycle.
Like I said, it's all about what you're looking for. For me this place works perfectly, for others not so much...

Another place I always really liked and my favorite city in Europe: Barcelona (closely followed by Amsterdam, even though I wouldn't live in AMS all year because of the weather). Good food, an ok beach, beautiful areas around the city, nice climate for most part, good infrastructure and thanks to the airport well-connected if you want to do some trips to other destinations. Only real turn-off is petty-theft, but if you pay attention, it's not a real problem and besides that mostly restricted to the touristy parts of town.
One more place I might consider to live, if I went to Europe, even though I only spent little time there on vacation: San Sebastian. Small beach town, safe, seemed like a great place to live, not that cheap like other places in Spain (but then again, quality of life seems really good, which usually drives up living costs) and you get access to world class food. And I'm not talking that much about world famous places like Arzac, Mugaritz or Akelare. There is an abundance of affordable top-notch places splattered all across this town...
 

New member
Joined
Dec 16, 2011
Messages
13,268
Tokens
Mexico would be my easy 1st choice. Costa Rica a distant 2nd.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,981
Messages
13,575,709
Members
100,889
Latest member
junkerb
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com