If they retire today, who are the no kidding sure fire NBA HOF inductees?

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So exactly how long did it take for you to figure that one out smart guy?

whats your problem dude.
I just made the comment based on the fact that the OP listed Allen on his "on the cusp" list.
Meaning he did not think he was a lock.

I just commented on the fact that I thought he was lock and deserved to be on his lock list.

But somehow I managed to state my opinion without without being an ass about it.

Why dont you go back to bed and re-wake up on the other side smart guy.
 

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whats your problem dude.
I just made the comment based on the fact that the OP listed Allen on his "on the cusp" list.
Meaning he did not think he was a lock.

I just commented on the fact that I thought he was lock and deserved to be on his lock list.

But somehow I managed to state my opinion without without being an ass about it.

Hey shit for brains, you've been around long enough to see how quotes work... maybe you should take at the thread again and see that no one was talking to you in the first place. UNLESS... you got another username you go by on here? Choptalk/CelticGreen?
 

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So are you finished talking out of your ass yet or would like to continue? The fact that you're simply basing your criteria off your own perception of popular players hardly demonstrates that you even know what you're talking about. Why not actually take a look at some stats and evaluate a player's body of work before you blow them off completely? Although Boozer doesn't get all the accolades and attention in comparison to Deron Williams or Derrick Rose, it doesn't mean that you can negate his contribution either.

The fact of the matter is, his career/season stats are comparable to Nash, Kidd, and Parker. He also grabs boards, gets points, can shoot FTs, doesn't cause drama in the locker room, or get injured very often. So what would you say keeps him out of contention from being inducted in the future? Because he doesn't "dominate" a game or get very far in the postseason? Honestly now, when was the last time you've seen Kidd, or Ray Allen take over a game? When was the last time Nash was even a contender to win the Western Conference?

Career: 17.0 ppg, 9.9 reb. 1.9 ast
Season:15.1 ppg, 8.7 reb. 2.4 ast

oh and.. Parker over Ginobili.

Hey smart guy, not one person on this forum with any sort of sense whatsoever will agree that Carlos Boozer should be in the HOF. Not one sports writer that wants to keep their job around the U.S. would agree he should be in the HOF. But I guess we're all the idiots. I can't believe I'm even going to entertain this idea but here you go...

Boozer is only a two time All Star.
The closest he's made it to the All NBA Team? Third team in 2008.
Was not on the All Rookie First Team.
Career 17.3 PPG and 10.1 RPG.
Not won an NBA Championship ring.

To mention Carlos Boozer in the same sentence as D. Williams and Rose is laughable (although they play very different positions). Rose and D. Williams are the #1 options on their team and two of the top PG's in the NBA. C. Boozer is not in the top 10 around the NBA at his position. And oh by the way, why compare him to Rose and Williams as neither of them are HOF players either so why does that matter? Parker, I don't feel is a HOF player either so throw him out.

Nash - Two tim MVP, 8 time All Star, 7 time All NBA Selection, led the league 5 times in assists, led the league two times in FT percentage. Not to mention he plays the toughest position on the floor and makes every one of the players on his team better by getting them the ball where they need in order to score. Keep in mind, he was the best player in the NBA TWO TIMES.

Kidd - NBA Champion in 2011, 10 Time All Star, 6 time All NBA Selection, 9 time All Defensive Selection, NBA Co Rookie of the Year, NBA All Rookie Team, 1994 PAC-10 Player of the Year, Member of the NBA Dream Team 2000, Two Time Gold Medalist. And again, plays the toughest position on the court and gets the ball to everyone on the court where they need to score each offensive possession.

When you have Dirk Nowitzki on your team, you don't take over anything. But he locks down the opponent and gets the ball where it needs to be.

During Nash's run with Stoudemire he took over all the time. Before his arrival in Phoenix, the Suns were 29-53. He went on to lead them the year he arrived in Phoenix to a 62-20 record while averaging 11.5 APG. He is only the third PG in NBA history to win the MVP award behind Cousy and M. Johnson. That year, they lost in the Western Conference Finals to Duncan and the Spurs. The following year he led then again to the Western Conference Finals without Stoudemire (knee injury) and Q. Richardson and J. Johnson who were both traded away.

I mean seriously, do you really put C. Boozer in the sentence as J. Kidd, S. Nash or even D. Rose as far as quality NBA players goes?
 

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He's a really smart guy.

LOL

Boozer.
Comedy at its finest.
 

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Hey shit for brains, you've been around long enough to see how quotes work... maybe you should take at the thread again and see that no one was talking to you in the first place. UNLESS... you got another username you go by on here? Choptalk/CelticGreen?

listen you fucking cockroach. Carlos Boozer is getting into Spingfield only as a vistor
 

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So are you finished talking out of your ass yet or would like to continue? The fact that you're simply basing your criteria off your own perception of popular players hardly demonstrates that you even know what you're talking about. Why not actually take a look at some stats and evaluate a player's body of work before you blow them off completely? Although Boozer doesn't get all the accolades and attention in comparison to Deron Williams or Derrick Rose, it doesn't mean that you can negate his contribution either.

The fact of the matter is, his career/season stats are comparable to Nash, Kidd, and Parker. He also grabs boards, gets points, can shoot FTs, doesn't cause drama in the locker room, or get injured very often. So what would you say keeps him out of contention from being inducted in the future? Because he doesn't "dominate" a game or get very far in the postseason? Honestly now, when was the last time you've seen Kidd, or Ray Allen take over a game? When was the last time Nash was even a contender to win the Western Conference?

Career: 17.0 ppg, 9.9 reb. 1.9 ast
Season:15.1 ppg, 8.7 reb. 2.4 ast

oh and.. Parker over Ginobili.

I guess Carlos Boozer's mom does post on TheRX
 

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Lets put Tyson Chandler in the HOF
 

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Why not Shawn Bradley?

I thought about him but I think Darko Milicic passed him up in the last few years.
You can only put so many big names from one era at one time before you run the risk of diluting the HOF.
 

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But I guess we're all the idiots.

Good to know. I didn't suggest Carlos Boozer because I expected it was going to be going to be a popular opinion but because it was a discussion that I thought had some merit. I will admit I went off tangent from the topic by suggesting someone that I considered might have a possibility rather than a 100% lock. However, I wasn't the one initially acting like a prick about it like nor am I disagreeing that Nash and Kidd are going into the HoF by stating an opinion. Look, I understand that cynical pricks sometimes say things like "in the same breath/in the same sentence" when they put players on a pedestal however I do feel that Boozer is a quality player in the NBA, not a superstar sure.... but not a mediocre one either. In retrospect I might've jumped the gun a bit but hey, it's your thread boo-boo so I'm not gonna try to stir things up when it's clear your mind's been made and the rest of the stooges really have nothing else to say other than feeble attempts to try and pile on at this point.
 

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Good to know. I didn't suggest Carlos Boozer because I expected it was going to be going to be a popular opinion but because it was a discussion that I thought had some merit. I will admit I went off tangent from the topic by suggesting someone that I considered might have a possibility rather than a 100% lock. However, I wasn't the one initially acting like a prick about it like nor am I disagreeing that Nash and Kidd are going into the HoF by stating an opinion. Look, I understand that cynical pricks sometimes say things like "in the same breath/in the same sentence" when they put players on a pedestal however I do feel that Boozer is a quality player in the NBA, not a superstar sure.... but not a mediocre one either. In retrospect I might've jumped the gun a bit but hey, it's your thread boo-boo so I'm not gonna try to stir things up when it's clear your mind's been made and the rest of the stooges really have nothing else to say other than feeble attempts to try and pile on at this point.

My mind is never made up about this kind of stuff. Is Boozer a great NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a bad NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a mediocre NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a good to better than average NBA player...ABSOLUTELY.

But when I think of the NBA HOF, Boozer and his credentials don't even sniff Larry Bird's jockstrap.
 

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My mind is never made up about this kind of stuff. Is Boozer a great NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a bad NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a mediocre NBA player...NO. Is Boozer a good to better than average NBA player...ABSOLUTELY.

But when I think of the NBA HOF, Boozer and his credentials don't even sniff Larry Bird's jockstrap.

I suppose you're right. I can't disagree with the fact that the credentials for being HoF is more than just the statistical portion but also the intangibles like orchestrating a team properly, coming up with clutch baskets, and motivating the rest of the team to play better... I think I was moreso trying to gauge the criteria you were setting for HoF inductees and put him in as more of an pick based on emotional aspect rather than a more logical one. Also, why no love for LeBron?
 

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boozer is far from clutch to me, hell he basically sits out every 4th qtr for the bulls this season (and its not bc they are always up 15+ or something). i have him on my fantasy team and it seems 65% of his game stats come in the first qtr. i cant tell u how many times boozer has had like 8-10 pts and 5-6 rebs at the end of the first qtr to finish with like 14 pts and 8 rebs in the game
 

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I suppose you're right. I can't disagree with the fact that the credentials for being HoF is more than just the statistical portion but also the intangibles like orchestrating a team properly, coming up with clutch baskets, and motivating the rest of the team to play better... I think I was moreso trying to gauge the criteria you were setting for HoF inductees and put him in as more of an pick based on emotional aspect rather than a more logical one. Also, why no love for LeBron?

I mean, I can't hide my disdain for Lebron due to what he did to get to Miami. That doesn't mean I don't think he's a phenomenal player which he is. I've also read that he's a pompous asshole that people can't stand to be around including Coach K who didn't even want him on the Olympic team. That said, he has 2 MVPs so I guess he's in the HOF now even though I don't think he should be just yet.
 

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I can't believe a real poster in this thread named Carlos Boozer but Manu was a "maybe" haha.
 

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Lets put Tyson Chandler in the HOF
Good Luck with the Lakers

[FONT=&quot]Tyson Chandler made his Lakers debut in the first quarter and scored his first basket with his new team when he tipped in a Rajon Rondo miss with 5:09 remaining in the second quarter. He finished with two points and nine rebounds in 22 minutes.[/FONT]
 

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