If the Bills the playoffs, are they the most overrated team of all-time?

[Avocado33]

When he didn't have Hill, he was awful. Tua needs a loaded team because he is accurate. Without the toys, he's bad.

Tua without Hill is a 90+ rating passer for his career

Allen without Diggs is a 79 rating passer for his career

 

[raiders72]

That was his first 2 seasons in the league under Brian Flores who had NO confidence in Tua

Waddle (rookie) was his leading receiver

Gelsicki was number 2 and Devonte Parker was number 3

Durham Smythe was their 4th best receiver at 357 yards

So 2 of their best 4 receivers were tight ends. Smythe is more of a blocking tight end.

Ask patriots fans what they think about Gelsicki and Parker.

You said it best earlier. He locks on one read too long. Tua doesn't extend plays, he's not a runner, if that first read isn't open or he gets pressure in his face, he's done.

 

[raiders72]

Tua without Hill is a 90+ rating passer for his career

Allen without Diggs is a 79 rating passer for his career

Are you trying to say that Tua is in the same class as Allen? Tua should be a backup. Allen is the best QB in the league. You keep throwing out running.

 

[Avocado33]

Mahomes can't make plays that Allen makes because of the running difference.

So why don't you grade Lamar highly then? You never seem to have him in that top 5 category

Lamar is a more capable runner than Allen is

Also Mahomes is a capable runner himself -- quite good at it actually. He just tends to play more controlled than Allen, and make better decisions

 

[Avocado33]

Are you trying to say that Tua is in the same class as Allen?

I'm saying that your argument that Tua is fully dependent on Hill is flawed

 

[SheriffJoe]

Josh Allen's salary cap number was 18.6 million this year

His number will be 47.1 million next year

Lets see which "toys" will be taken from him

Beane will restructure his contract, just like last season.

What happens when Tua commands more than Josh Allen?

 

[crudebar]

I'm not even saying Allen played poorly yesterday. I thought he was good overall

But Mahomes was better than him

Can both not be true?

People are so defensive about Allen

"If we just ignore all the bad plays he makes, he's really amazing!"

Allen is a very good qb(no question)

These excuses people make for him are simply funny. They as a team got the biggest break in the game(Pach fumble) and go to never score again.

I could imagine the excuses had Cook fumbled the ball and Chiefs took advantage and went onto win.

Qbs get more of the credit for a win then deserves and more of the blame in a loss then deserved. It cuts both ways for Allen like it would for any star qb.

 

[Avocado33]

Josh Allen's salary cap number was 18.6 million this year

His number will be 47.1 million next year

Lets see which "toys" will be taken from him

Gotta think Diggs is gone

Bills honestly should try to get Higgins from Bengals, but I expect Higgins will remain a Bengal next year

 

[crudebar]

Interceptions through first 6 full seasons in the NFL:

Tom Brady: 78 "THE GOAT"

Josh Allen: 78 "Turnover Machine (by today's standards)"

I just love these FAKE Realities/narratives you proudly create and how you cling to them like a nerd in high school to his fugly girlfriend.

Outstanding!

Please keep it up!

Lol. Another disingenuous response. That's why I said in today's NFL of which it is much easier to pass and not turn the ball over.

 

[Avocado33]

Allen is a very good qb(no question)

These excuses people make for him are simply funny. They as a team got the biggest break in the game(Pach fumble) and go to never score again.

I could imagine the excuses had Cook fumbled the ball and Chiefs took advantage and went onto win.

Qbs get more of the credit for a win then deserves and more of the blame in a loss then deserved. It cuts both ways for Allen like it would for any star qb.

Yeah it's funny to see the obsession with the bad fake punt call/McDermoot when it basically had no consequences -- Hardman fumbled the ball through the end zone two plays later.

It was a bad call, but it didn't prove to be consequential at all

Cheifs should have won by double digits

 

[crudebar]

And Joel Embiid, Luka, Giannis are better NBA scores than Michael Jordan. Or is it because in today's game its much easier to score.

Jeesh talking to some of these people is mind numbing.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Gotta think Diggs is gone

Bills honestly should try to get Higgins from Bengals, but I expect Higgins will remain a Bengal next year

Nope, they're stuck with Diggs for one more season.

Dead cap hit is 31m or thereabouts.

 

[crudebar]

Yeah it's funny to see the obsession with the bad fake punt call/McDermoot when it basically had no consequences -- Hardman fumbled the ball through the end zone two plays later.

It was a bad call, but it didn't prove to be consequential at all

Cheifs should have won by double digits

Ah it was Hardman. That's what happens when u watch game without sound at dinner. Haha

 

[Avocado33]

Nope, they're stuck with Diggs for one more season.

Dead cap hit is 31m or thereabouts.

They may try to figure out a way out of that

Diggs has wanted out for a while

 

[crudebar]

Quick take---Baltimore blows the doors off KC.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Lol. Another disingenuous response. That's why I said in today's NFL of which it is much easier to pass and not turn the ball over.

You're just not good at this.

Ever.

What you thrive on (or THINK you thrive on) is snide nervous name-calling/mocking etc., though anyone discerning can see you're not particularly good at that either.

Pick a comparable, any stat - Josh Allen is elite. As good, and if not better than Mahomes (assuming Mahomes is your Gold Standard).

 

[crudebar]

You're just not good at this.

Ever.

What you thrive on (or THINK you thrive on) is snide nervous name-calling/mocking etc., though anyone discerning can see you're not particularly good at that either.

Pick a comparable, any stat - Josh Allen is elite. As good, and if not better than Mahomes (assuming Mahomes is your Gold Standard).

Yes and Dan Marino was the best qb ever. Lol

This is why u had to "retire" from sports betting. U aren't good at particularly anything.

 

[Knightrofins]

Beane will restructure his contract, just like last season.

What happens when Tua commands more than Josh Allen?

Hopefully he doesnt

However with future value and the salary cap rising, you never know.

Would I be happy if Tua made more than Allen? Nope

 

[SheriffJoe]

They may try to figure out a way out of that

Diggs has wanted out for a while

How?

Hose Jerry "uniting the Diggs brothers" for Cee Dee Lamb.

 

[raiders72]

Josh Allen's salary cap number was 18.6 million this year

His number will be 47.1 million next year

Lets see which "toys" will be taken from him

He had no toys yesterday. Diggs dropped a ball. KC RBs averaged 7.5 yds/carry, Mahomes had a clean pocket, Buf backup defense, it would have been a blowout if not for Allen.

You aren't stopping Allen from running in the playoffs.