Idiot Drumpf Was Right about one thing

[NorthernStar]

I'd called for actual IQ Tests to determine Eligibility to Vote. Certainly not level of Education received.

I'm with Mantis, EasyMoney and others in not being comfortable with number of years in school being the end-all-be-all of determining Intelligence.

Absurd Notion today, Eligibility to Vote based upon Intelligence, but the future is gonna bring Nano-Computers installed on us or even within us that monitor Body Function, even are easily able to determine IQ.

IMO anyways, I am not Nostradamus.

There are no easy answers, we face tough questions. Its just hard for me to imagine a world that continues on a path that sees a large portion of Voters basing their Votes upon which candidate is gonna give them the most Free Stuff.

Decidedly InSTEAD of the candidate that would be best for the world.

Education basically shows that the person had the intelligence and determination to challenge themselves mentally and to some degree financial ability (for college and lesser extent high school). Once again there is a high correlation with intelligence and education. The percentages of people that are genius walking around with no education is not a very big number.

Basic opinion is that people need to have skin in the game or their decisions are different. Thus Bernie Sanders idea of free college is horrendous. Better off taking the money and paying down the debt.

Healthcare is the same thing. The problem we have is we want to cover everything and then figure out how to pay for it. It is especially bad for the elderly who can run up large bills with little consequences. People make different decisions if they have to pay for services. The difficult one is at the end of life decisions. If someone wants the healthcare industry to do everything possible to keep someone alive then that person must be willing to pledge all of their assets to accomplish that. They may chose to die peacefully and leave something to their family versus using all of their assets to stay alive for a few weeks. Until we make a change in healthcare that changes what is covered and to what extent we will continue to see healthcare costs rise.

 

[NorthernStar]

are you kidding? you send me a link to an article written by a Muslim Yale Professor? I'm shocked (sarcasm) that he doesn't understand it (or at least pretends not to)

Give me 3 valid reasons why there should be an electoral college?

 

[PatsFan1283]

Need THIEL to assume Major Position within Council that tries to figure out the Educational Aspect of an approach that provides for Young Black and Brown kids a serious Hand Up.

Gotta do this now. Well.....January 20th 2017 or so.

Whatever anyone says re: Racial Problems, if We make a path for this youth of today, these young black and latino kids, my belief is that many more of them will take this and do great things, unlike similar programs, efforts along these lines...in the past.


There is literally no one better suited to the task of this: "What do We do on....Education?" that Peter Thiel.

He was born for this.

Clear that Calendar, Peter.

What a brilliant gamble by Thiel to be 1 of the few of the rich and powerful to openly back Trump. Held court at the national press club a week before the election and spent 45 minutes making the case to vote for him.

I'm sure he has somewhat ulterior motives, probably knew it was an easy way to gain government influence given Trump's lack of support from others in the business world, but it is still cool to see someone that I really admire becoming involved in the process. Just has a lot of poignant analysis that is missing in both media and politics.

I'm not really too enthusiastic about what the next 4 years will bring politically but this atleast provides potential.

https://www.cnet.com/news/peter-thiel-to-enter-trump-inner-circle-as-technology-adviser/

 

[KingEleven]

Give me 3 valid reasons why there should be an electoral college?

do you understand why we have it?

 

[NorthernStar]

do you understand why we have it?

No I just got off the turnip truck....you mean we already have it? I had no idea

 

[KingEleven]

No I just got off the turnip truck....you mean we already have it? I had no idea

I asked if you understand WHY we have it? I'll take that as a no. Do yourself a favor and do some research/studying.....start by looking up what CONNECTICUT compromise (I'm guessing you never heard that term before) is

 

[Illini]

Baaaaaa.....liberals smart, conservatives dumb.....Baaaaaaaa

 

[ML Dog]

I'm sure he has somewhat ulterior motives

Thiel?

"Ulterior Motives"

Kryst, anyone that Brilliant and Visionary wakes up with 4 different and completely opposing views on what to do about Breakfast alone.

Having Over-Analyzed the whole affair that is the choice between Waffles and some Egg-Based solution, like, 12 times in his mind within the course of about 46 seconds.


If one (and Chief) among his motives is NOT to play a key role in Healing the wounds that exist within our country and plague that right now...

.....I am gonna be completely stunned.

In his SLEEP this guy could think up potential Solutions to Educational Avenues for Minorities, "Paths" involving Education that would be astronomically +EV to healing this Racial Divide.

And making a Future for little black & brown kids which = a brighter future for our nation.


Incomprehensible to me any way that Peter does not fully know that the opportunity presented to us is perhaps unrivaled....in all of World History.

If not that Dramatic then at least unrivaled as far as the modern history of our nation goes.

Being how We are supposed to be a "Beacon of Light", for the World....

....this is a really Yuge spot, that we find ourselves in here. Big Opportunity.

 

[KingEleven]

No I just got off the turnip truck....you mean we already have it? I had no idea

also, youl should know because most do not seem to know...we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic

 

[NorthernStar]

I asked if you understand WHY we have it? I'll take that as a no. Do yourself a favor and do some research/studying.....start by looking up what CONNECTICUT compromise (I'm guessing you never heard that term before) is

And your point would be what? I have no problems with the house an senate in terms of determining policy.

I do not think that is the method we should use determine our president. I have stated my reason why I think that the electoral system should be changed. I cant think of any good reasons to keep it.

So hypothetically all of the electors decided the public voting for Trump was a mistake and they all in turn voted for Hillary......this would be a sign that our founding fathers put in a system that was genius? According to the rules as they exist today that could happen. There have and will continue to be electors that vote as they choose. The most recent in 2000.

 

[KingEleven]

And your point would be what? I have no problems with the house an senate in terms of determining policy.

I do not think that is the method we should use determine our president. I have stated my reason why I think that the electoral system should be changed. I cant think of any good reasons to keep it.

So hypothetically all of the electors decided the public voting for Trump was a mistake and they all in turn voted for Hillary......this would be a sign that our founding fathers put in a system that was genius? According to the rules as they exist today that could happen. There have and will continue to be electors that vote as they choose. The most recent in 2000.

so you prefer to let Cali, Texas, NY, Florida and a handful of states determine who our Prez is every 4 years? No thanks

 

[MantisToboggan]

And your point would be what? I have no problems with the house an senate in terms of determining policy.

I do not think that is the method we should use determine our president. I have stated my reason why I think that the electoral system should be changed. I cant think of any good reasons to keep it.

So hypothetically all of the electors decided the public voting for Trump was a mistake and they all in turn voted for Hillary......this would be a sign that our founding fathers put in a system that was genius? According to the rules as they exist today that could happen. There have and will continue to be electors that vote as they choose. The most recent in 2000.

The reason the electors don't have to vote for the winner is to prevent someone who is unfit from becoming President. Our founders didn't trust democracy.

 

[ML Dog]

What a brilliant gamble by Thiel to be 1 of the few of the rich and powerful to openly back Trump.

Among the most Brilliant Gambles ever, IMO. And the Brave-ness of it can't be understated. He was literally the only person of real Stature within Silicon Valley that took the side that he did to the degree that he made The Bet.

And to just make this bet within Silicon Valley, like a Den of Leftist Wolves, that place....at the least when compared to the stance that Peter made. And the degree to which, the "size" of the wager he made.

Gotta pic you'll enjoy....its a pic taken from a Samsung 7 with the Vintage Filter activated...

...its Thiel at Silicon Valley Trump Victory Party:

He's the only person there.

He'd rented out, for the Party, his original Studio Apartment that he'd lived in when he was a Frosh at Stanford

and yeah, the Samsung 7 Phone burst into flames then exploded, shorty after this pic was taken.

 

[MantisToboggan]

I know ..... is that what we really want? Don't you think the people should decide who they want to lead our country?

I do, but not through pure democracy.

 

[NorthernStar]

The reason the electors don't have to vote for the winner is to prevent someone who is unfit from becoming President. Our founders didn't trust democracy.

I know ..... is that what we really want? Don't you think the people should decide who they want to lead our country?

 

[NorthernStar]

so you prefer to let Cali, Texas, NY, Florida and a handful of states determine who our Prez is every 4 years? No thanks

To exaggerate the point....you think 10 people in Idaho should determine the president over 100,000 in Texas? How could that possibly be fair to the 100,000 people in Texas? Where you live in the country should not determine the influence your vote has in electing our president. That is ridiculous with no reasonable argument why it should be that way.

 

[MantisToboggan]

I know ..... is that what we really want? Don't you think the people should decide who they want to lead our country?

Read Federalist Paper 51.

 

[ML Dog]

The reason the electors don't have to vote for the winner is to prevent someone who is unfit from becoming President. Our founders didn't trust democracy.

Is there a possibility that The Electoral College will not Vote Trump in?

I know I could Google, for Opinions on this but I hadn't thought of this possibility and am not confident that there is a viable amount of Educated Opinions online, about this yet.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Is there a possibility that The Electoral College will not Vote Trump in?

I know I could Google, for Opinions on this but I hadn't thought of this possibility and am not confident that there is a viable amount of Educated Opinions online, about this yet.

Sure, but throughout history electors vote they way they are expected to 99% of the time.

 

[KingEleven]

To exaggerate the point....you think 10 people in Idaho should determine the president over 100,000 in Texas? How could that possibly be fair to the 100,000 people in Texas? Where you live in the country should not determine the influence your vote has in electing our president. That is ridiculous with no reasonable argument why it should be that way.

I am now confused...sounds like you are now arguing FOR the electoral system!!! You say "where you live in the country should not determine the influence your vote has in electing our president".....I must have got through to you