I miss you all!

[Flsunman]

You are too immature and ignorant to understand why I do anything. You haven't been right yet -- not once. And just FYI, a lot of the time I spend on line is when I am at my beach house just chilling and relaxing because I can afford it. I also like cruising around in the Pacific on my 32' Skipjack with a flying bridge. I call it my tuna chaser. I can afford it because I spent more time taking care of myself and working and building my business than worrying about crapping on anyone's parade the way you constantly do in your own inimicable and rude way.

By the time you are an adult and old enough to understand anything I say to CP, or why I say it, it will be years from now. Maybe if that day ever comes, you will be as healthy and as together as I am -- if you are smart. But you act and talk like a low life loser. You assume people think the same way you do and you have a twisted view of others. Acting like an asshole in every post won't get you anywhere but worse off in people's minds, especially SEC posters that want nothing to do with you because of it. That is all the truth you need to understand. Everyone here knows that you can't handle it. Just say something as usual and you will prove me right.

Tranny.

Um, every FACT regarding the Pac-10 SEC is correct. I take the time to look it up to reassure what I'm saying, nice try though.


Prove you right? Ok guy, whatever you say.

I'm 26, own my own condo in uptown Dallas and take great care of myself. But what difference does it make? I'm a low life loser, LOL.

There hasn't been ONE single SEC fan who disputes what I say when it comes to responding to you and the rest of the people out west. Thanks for making things up to make yourself look better though.

I have had disputes with 2-3 people on here... I can count MANY more on your end, but I guess when you have zero life and spend every waking hour on the message boards I could only assume you're going to make enemies and especially with the way you think. But who knows and who really cares?

You whine and complain more than almost anyone on this board, you have to be woman or a tranny... what can I say?

All and all you are total waste of my time but I had to once again set you straight... this is too easy.

 

[Flsunman]

The SEC and Pac-10 have played 115 games all time. The lower half of the SEC- Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, UK, SC, Vandy- have played the Pac-10 a grand total of 19 times. It is impressive that the best SEC teams can beat up on the worst Pac-10 teams. You must be very proud

it is what it is... UF is 2-0 all time vs USC. I like how you disregard what the point actually is. Once again, the SEC has a winning record vs the Pac-10.

 

[Flsunman]

Yeah, I'll be impressed with the SEC's Bowl record. Go 4-0 OOC, vs Bubba's Truck Drivin School, Bear Bryant Middle School, UAB, and Richmond, all at home by the way, then win 2 games in conference. You're right, the SEC has the most beautiful, invisible clothes I've ever seen.


But isn't that the point? If the SEC can't beat anybody OOC or is scared to play anybody OOC wouldn't the bowl record, BCS record, and national title record be very bad?

The SEC hasn't lost a National title game since the BCS started in 97 with Tenn winning the first.

It's really sad when the SEC has more outright titles in the last 3 years than the Pac-10 does since 1970.

You just don't compete.

 

[Conan]

The SEC wouldn't even have played in as many BCS games or NC games if they had been playing teams as often on a OOC national level like everyone else has. Good strategy, but chickenshit. 4-0 OOC in September means nothing if you play in the SEC. Too bad the pollsters haven't figured that one out yet.

If you want recognition on the national scene, you will have to play games on the national scene or you can't call yourself an national anything and you deserve all the crap thrown at you for doing as you have. Who has Florida played OOC in the last 20 years from anywhere but Florida? You are too embarrassed to admit that you have not participated in CFB on the national landscape yet you claim national what? This is not about a one or 2 big bowl games per year, this is about the whole sport on the national scene and the teams you have not played (compared to most everyone else) that you refuse to accept. That goes triple for Florida. Slivers of truth only prove your ignorance not what you think you prove so don't bother explaining it. You do not have the ability to argue intelligently. Why do you remain so ignorant of the facts I just mentioned?

Living in a condo full of trannys in Dallas means nothing. Everyone knows that a redneck condo is another name for a trailer park.

 

[Flsunman]

Facts are facts, UF won the National Title last year and 2 years before that and in 1996 going through the toughest conference in the country. We should give USC credit for playing Arkansas, Auburn and Ohio State? We beat the same ass you did... Or wait, Oregon beat Miss state's ass.hno:

You're so simple minded it's amazing. UF plays FSU every year, who gives a shit where the game is played? FSU plays in Florida too. Uf also plays Miami(every 5 years now). Sprinkle in a southern miss(cal played twice) or a hawaii. Add 2-3 top 10 matchups in the SEC plus the SECCG and you have a schedule that NOBODY wants. Again, me and the rest of the country would GLADLY take USC's schedule over UF's or Tenn or LSU, etc.

There's a reason why the SEC does not get left out of the National title game whenever there is a dispute. USC would of most likely manhandled Auburn in 2004 but the BCS still got it wrong with OU and this is the only recent scenario I can recall.

And yeah, they build trailers near the ritz and w. They found that it greatly increases the property value.

 

[Flsunman]

The SEC wouldn't even have played in as many BCS games or NC games if they had been playing teams as often on a OOC national level like everyone else has. Good strategy, but chickenshit. 4-0 OOC in September means nothing if you play in the SEC. Too bad the pollsters haven't figured that one out yet.

If you want recognition on the national scene, you will have to play games on the national scene or you can't call yourself an national anything and you deserve all the crap thrown at you for doing as you have. Who has Florida played OOC in the last 20 years from anywhere but Florida? You are too embarrassed to admit that you have not participated in CFB on the national landscape yet you claim national what? This is not about a one or 2 big bowl games per year, this is about the whole sport on the national scene and the teams you have not played (compared to most everyone else) that you refuse to accept. That goes triple for Florida. Slivers of truth only prove your ignorance not what you think you prove so don't bother explaining it. You do not have the ability to argue intelligently. Why do you remain so ignorant of the facts I just mentioned?

Living in a condo full of trannys in Dallas means nothing. Everyone knows that a redneck condo is another name for a trailer park.

And dude... what do the pollsters need to figure out? The SEC never loses National Title games and hardly BCS games. So you discredit that fact brushing it off as one game? You're ridiculous, I'm glad you aren't making the rules for cfb.

 

[Flsunman]

And yeah, UF needs SOO much more national recognition than they already receive. LOL. You're the only one who I have EVER heard argue UF's schedule with a straight face. I would KILL absolutely KILL to have USC's schedule!

I still chuckle at the fact that USC had a bye week before AND after the Ohio State game. That's really chickenshit!

 

[ChrisParadise]

The SEC wouldn't even have played in as many BCS games or NC games if they had been playing teams as often on a OOC national level like everyone else has. Good strategy, but chickenshit. 4-0 OOC in September means nothing if you play in the SEC. Too bad the pollsters haven't figured that one out yet.

If you want recognition on the national scene, you will have to play games on the national scene or you can't call yourself an national anything and you deserve all the crap thrown at you for doing as you have. Who has Florida played OOC in the last 20 years from anywhere but Florida? You are too embarrassed to admit that you have not participated in CFB on the national landscape yet you claim national what? This is not about a one or 2 big bowl games per year, this is about the whole sport on the national scene and the teams you have not played (compared to most everyone else) that you refuse to accept. That goes triple for Florida. Slivers of truth only prove your ignorance not what you think you prove so don't bother explaining it. You do not have the ability to argue intelligently. Why do you remain so ignorant of the facts I just mentioned?

Living in a condo full of trannys in Dallas means nothing. Everyone knows that a redneck condo is another name for a trailer park.

Historically the pac-10 played west coast patsies. look at schedules frrom the 80's , early 90's . or the 70's
not until the BCS came about and SOS mattered did they start scheduling OOC games vs top 25ish teams. why? because they HAVE TO, else they get left out.

your actual complaint strengthens the argument that the sec>pac10.

how come a 1 loss Florida team went to the BCS championship over a 1 loss USC team that played a harder OOC schedule? because Florida still had a harder schedule overall. period. game / set / match. give it a rest

you should fight with the NCAA, they made the system that rewarded Florida. under the NCAA's BCS system the Florida Gators with 1 loss were still more deserving than a USC 1 loss team. facts are facts.

 

[Flsunman]

Historically the pac-10 played west coast patsies. look at schedules frrom the 80's , early 90's . or the 70's
not until the BCS came about and SOS mattered did they start scheduling OOC games vs top 25ish teams. why? because they HAVE TO, else they get left out.

your actual complaint strengthens the argument that the sec>pac10.

how come a 1 loss Florida team went to the BCS championship over a 1 loss USC team that played a harder OOC schedule? because Florida still had a harder schedule overall. period. game / set / match. give it a rest

you should fight with the NCAA, they made the system that rewarded Florida. under the NCAA's BCS system the Florida Gators with 1 loss were still more deserving than a USC 1 loss team. facts are facts.

That is 100 percent true. But hey, at least USC has all those air miles!

 

[guitarjosh]

it is what it is... UF is 2-0 all time vs USC. I like how you disregard what the point actually is. Once again, the SEC has a winning record vs the Pac-10.

I'm not disregarding anything. I'm just not to impressed that the way they got that winning record is by getting the top tier SEC teams to beat lower tier Pac-10 teams on the SEC team's home field. BTW, USC is 17-10-1 all time vs the SEC.

 

[Flsunman]

I'm not disregarding anything. I'm just not to impressed that the way they got that winning record is by getting the top tier SEC teams to beat lower tier Pac-10 teams on the SEC team's home field. BTW, USC is 17-10-1 all time vs the SEC.

I brought up UF bc I'm an alum and enthusiast. Nobody here is discrediting USC or their accomplishments or talent, etc.

An apples to apples comparison would show that USC got to 17-10-1 by playing lower tier SEC teams as well. Of course many Pac-10 fans would argue that Auburn was top tier which they weren't when USC played them. Regardless, I can't change your mind and you can't change mine. We'll just agree to disagree I guess.

 

[Conan]

Historically the pac-10 played west coast patsies. look at schedules frrom the 80's , early 90's . or the 70's
not until the BCS came about and SOS mattered did they start scheduling OOC games vs top 25ish teams. why? because they HAVE TO, else they get left out.

your actual complaint strengthens the argument that the sec>pac10.

how come a 1 loss Florida team went to the BCS championship over a 1 loss USC team that played a harder OOC schedule? because Florida still had a harder schedule overall. period. game / set / match. give it a rest

you should fight with the NCAA, they made the system that rewarded Florida. under the NCAA's BCS system the Florida Gators with 1 loss were still more deserving than a USC 1 loss team. facts are facts.

If you want to go back 30 years, why not 40 or 50? What difference does it make? You sound like you are having a bipolar moment. Just a few weeks ago it was about the Pac-10's geographical location, now what is it? Some kind of convenience that suits your latest scheduling theory? -- bipolar dude. Take your medicine and stop bothering yourself about this. That was settled a month ago.

How ironic. The shitty Pac-10 that gave USC no kind of fight was the only conference to go undefeated in the bowls. That suggests to me that there has been a lot of misinformation put out there about USC's schedule. That's what cost them, at least in part. I can live with it.

I am not saying it should have been Florida instead of USC, I am saying it should have been Florida vs. USC. You know I'm right so quit fighting with yourself over it.

 

[guitarjosh]

I brought up UF bc I'm an alum and enthusiast. Nobody here is discrediting USC or their accomplishments or talent, etc.

No offense, but usually when USC has a good year, some people out there would chalk it up to the fact USC plays in the "Pac-shit".

An apples to apples comparison would show that USC got to 17-10-1 by playing lower tier SEC teams as well.

That's just wrong. USC has played 28 games against the SEC. 21 of them have been against Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Tennesse, Georiga, LSU. 7 have been against Arkansas and SC. To be fair, USC's record against the SEC should probably be 14-8 since they played both games against the cocks and 3 games against the Hogs when they weren't in the SEC. But even then USC would have compiled a winning record against the top 6 SEC teams + Arky.

Of course many Pac-10 fans would argue that Auburn was top tier which they weren't when USC played them.

Auburn was the 3rd highest ranked SEC team at the end of the 2002 season, coming in at #14. If top 3 isn't top tier, what is?

Regardless, I can't change your mind and you can't change mine. We'll just agree to disagree I guess.

I'm not saying the SEC isn't the most talented conference top to bottom, or they deserve no respect, or anything like that. I AM saying that the talent difference isn't as big as SEC fans want to think it is. I AM saying that just because the SEC is most talented top to bottom doesn't mean they play the toughest schedules. I AM saying SEC fans beliefs about the greatness of their conference is based on circular logic or things that just aren't true, like Paradise saying that the PAC-10 didn't play tough OOC schedules until the BCS, or USC getting a winning record against the SEC by playing lower tier SEC teams.

 

[Flsunman]

No offense, but usually when USC has a good year, some people out there would chalk it up to the fact USC plays in the "Pac-shit".

That's just wrong. USC has played 28 games against the SEC. 21 of them have been against Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Tennesse, Georiga, LSU. 7 have been against Arkansas and SC. To be fair, USC's record against the SEC should probably be 14-8 since they played both games against the cocks and 3 games against the Hogs when they weren't in the SEC. But even then USC would have compiled a winning record against the top 6 SEC teams + Arky.


Auburn was the 3rd highest ranked SEC team at the end of the 2002 season, coming in at #14. If top 3 isn't top tier, what is? I'm not saying the SEC isn't the most talented conference top to bottom, or they deserve no respect, or anything like that. I AM saying that the talent difference isn't as big as SEC fans want to think it is. I AM saying that just because the SEC is most talented top to bottom doesn't mean they play the toughest schedules. I AM saying SEC fans beliefs about the greatness of their conference is based on circular logic or things that just aren't true, like Paradise saying that the PAC-10 didn't play tough OOC schedules until the BCS, or USC getting a winning record against the SEC by playing lower tier SEC teams.

I stand corrected for Auburn in 2002. I was more referencing the following year. Regardless, USC won that game by a TD in LA. It's not like Auburn was blown out or anything of the sort.

Was this the same year SC played Iowa in the Orange bowl? I can't remember.

We'll see what this year brings. I'm thinking Tenn gets revenge against a UCLA team they dominated yet found a way to lose in Tenn Vol fashion last year. Is Craft back at QB? That guy single handidly cost me the ASU/UCLA game last year. He was dreadful!

 

[Conan]

I stand corrected for Auburn in 2002. I was more referencing the following year. Regardless, USC won that game by a TD in LA. It's not like Auburn was blown out or anything of the sort.

Ooops. You didn't mention USC shutting out Auburn @Auburn. Did you just forget or did you deliberately not mention it to make your case, omitting important details, writing misleading and false information that you made up?

Does this mean you stand corrected yet again? That might not be the best thing but it's better than blowing smoke up everyone's ass trying to make a point with lies and mis-stated facts.

 

[Flsunman]

Hey Conan, you obviously can't read. I said the FOLLOWING year as in the NEXT YEAR. Shutting down that Auburn team in Auburn proved nothing. Brandon Cox was a freshman and sucked ass that year, along with Auburn. AU was preseason like #4 and fell way out of the top 25 when they were beaten to death in the sec.

The very next week after the USC game, Auburn was beaten to death by G-tech only scoing like 3 points. So no, Auburn was bottom tier SEC team that year. That would be like me bragging about Florida whipping Arizona State or something like that.

 

[ChrisParadise]

I'm not saying the SEC isn't the most talented conference top to bottom, or they deserve no respect, or anything like that. I AM saying that the talent difference isn't as big as SEC fans want to think it is.

how do you quantify someone elses opinion of a "talent gap" ? you must be able to from your above statement

but after USC there is a gap as yesterdays draft showed yet again. i you remove USC from the equation the pac-10 had ONE first rd pick while the SEC had 8 from 6 different schools

seriously how do you defend that ? the SEC talent pool goes deep and the pac-10 dropoffs considerably after the top team.

now , by my statements can you quantify my opinion of the dropoff in talent?

 

[Conan]

THE FOLLOWING YEAR (2003) Auburn was not a "bottom tier" team in the SEC. They finished 5-3 and 8-5 overall. Plus, when USC went there to play them and shut them out, they played @Auburn. USC had no reputation at that time either. PC had only been there 2 years. Had USC not shut them out, and instead Auburn holding service on their home field and getting their revenge for the road loss @USC, they would have finished 9-4. Say whatever you want about Auburn in 2003, but nobody had shut them out for decades before that, not even any of SEC's "elite." Auburn also beat Tennessee and Alabama that season. Their 2 of their 3 conf. losses were vs LSU and UGA. The 3rd was to an 18th ranked (at the time) Mississippi team. I'd hardly call that a pummeling at the hands of the SEC. You would say that just so you could make a whimped out attempt at degrading USC, no other possible reason.

The following year ('04) Auburn went 13-0 with basically the same team that played in '03. I just shake my head in amazement when I see how some of you SEC fans are willing to throw anyone under the bus when it suits them, even one of their own... and in spite of that, you want credibility?

I realize that this discussion invokes a lot of thinking and that's something you are obviously not used to doing much of. Thankfully you are only 26 so you are probably just ignorant not stupid. Maybe the day will come when you realize that this is about winning money not touting your boys. You are horribly misinformed about the Pac-10. When you put your balls back in your pants and learn how to think with cold facts instead of cherry picked arguments, maybe there will be some hope for you.

 

[Conan]

how do you quantify someone elses opinion of a "talent gap" ? you must be able to from your above statement

but after USC there is a gap as yesterdays draft showed yet again. i you remove USC from the equation the pac-10 had ONE first rd pick while the SEC had 8 from 6 different schools

seriously how do you defend that ? the SEC talent pool goes deep and the pac-10 dropoffs considerably after the top team.

now , by my statements can you quantify my opinion of the dropoff in talent?

That might be very difficult, but for the sake of argument, at the most it's about as much a drop off between being a 1st and 2nd round NFL pick... or even less if you look at all the numbers.

After making 8 first round spots, nobody saw fit to take any SEC players in the 2nd round at all, save for UGA in the 3rd to last pick in R2. Meanwhile 7 Pac-10 players were selected in R2 from 4 schools including the 2nd overall, Patrick Chung who just happened to play at your favorite Pac-10 team to dis, Oregon. By the way, Oregon had more players drafted in the first 2 rounds than any SEC team.

I am very grateful that I don't have your luck home boy. Just promise me that you won't bail again this year if Kiffin blows up. In a way, you're a kind of good luck charm.

 

[ChrisParadise]

That might be very difficult, but for the sake of argument, at the most it's about as much a drop off between being a 1st and 2nd round NFL pick... or even less if you look at all the numbers.

After making 8 first round spots, nobody saw fit to take any SEC players in the 2nd round at all, save for UGA in the 3rd to last pick in R2. Meanwhile 7 Pac-10 players were selected in R2 from 4 schools including the 2nd overall, Patrick Chung who just happened to play at your favorite Pac-10 team to dis, Oregon. By the way, Oregon had more players drafted in the first 2 rounds than any SEC team.

I am very grateful that I don't have your luck home boy. Just promise me that you won't bail again this year if Kiffin blows up. In a way, you're a kind of good luck charm.

2nd rd is for losers

look at history , many of them dont even make the team

1st rd = sec and USC
2nd rd = rest of Pac-10

ive never heard of the 34th pick being called "2nd overall in rd 2" thats funny shit