I fucking hate wearing masks....but me and my family did notice one positive thing with these masks

[JavyBaez9]

Nonsense. But you are doing exactly that.



In March the experts knew quite a bit less about this C-19 virus than they do now.

And even now they still remain largely ignorant re this novel, i.e. new, virus.

It has no vaccine, unlike the flu which has been studied for many years.

But feel free to keep posting as if you know more than the experts.

Do you *honestly* believe that the basics of the virus are different than the basics from other viruses, like how big the particles are, how one would catch it, how a mask would help, etc?

If you honestly believe that, you are a moron.

I am giving you some credit in assuming that you are ignoring this obvious reality to keep pushing your narrative.

The idea that every virus Dr. Fauci knew about in March behaves differently than this one in terms of mask wearing is preposterous. You are NOT stupid enough to believe that, are you?

 

[HamGlaze]

Masks work. Period.

When you show up to vote with your mask on be ready to show your ID.

 

[JavyBaez9]

Masks work. Period.

When you show up to vote with your mask on be ready to show your ID.

 

[X-Files]

Do you *honestly* believe that the basics of the virus are different than the basics from other viruses, like how big the particles are, how one would catch it, how a mask would help, etc?

If you honestly believe that, you are a moron.

I am giving you some credit in assuming that you are ignoring this obvious reality to keep pushing your narrative.

The idea that every virus Dr. Fauci knew about in March behaves differently than this one in terms of mask wearing is preposterous. You are NOT stupid enough to believe that, are you?

Why do i get the feeling there is some conspiracy theory you have associated with all those remarks.

What do you think, is C-19 "just another flu"? Should the annual flu vaccine be sufficient to deal with it & should we cease efforts to create a vaccine or treatments for it?

Should we treat it like "another flu season" & forget masks, shields, distancing, barriers, taking temperatures, contact tracing, shutdowns, etc? Just let herd immunity have its way?

Why the experts changed their view re masks, based on scientific evidence, has been repeated ad nauseum from many sources. Are you calling them liars?

 

[shdw01]

I'm not even trying to argue covid is a crazy deadly disease. In fact, I'm grouping covid with the common cold and flu. The masks and increased hygiene has had a huge effect on all sicknesses for me and those around me.

And it's not a coincidence if it applies to me, my immediate And extended family. (Friends and coworkers too)

I'm not arguing which way of life is smarter. I'm just saying this annoyance has kept me healthy.

 

[DogDaze]

Opposite here. Out and about. Kids , wife been to beach numerous times , restaurants packed , many ignoring the 50% capacity, no mask , no one sick yet. Same goes for all I know

Fucking idiot.

 

[StevieRay]

Fucking idiot.

Dogshit, U must live in a democrat city where u are locked down like a slave

many cities are no mask, restaurants full, etc.

sucks for you

 

[HinesWard86]

I'm sure the protocols do lower the risk of other diseases.

It also lowers our immunity from those diseases, meaning when we do finally get them, they will impact us much worse.

That fact is often overlooked by the liberals, for whatever reason. It is literally science.

One of the things I will never understand about the right wing in America. Why politicize science?

 

[HinesWard86]

Back in March, Dr. Fauci said wearing a mask had unintended consequences and could spread the virus because people fiddle with them.

So which is it? Are you the expert or is Dr. Fauci from March?

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn is a prescient read

 

[Willie99]

One of the things I will never understand about the right wing in America. Why politicize science?

Hahaha, oh the irony

Right church, wrong pew

 

[HinesWard86]

Hahaha, oh the irony

Right church, wrong pew

Speaking of Pew

https://www.pewresearch.org/science...ust-in-americans-views-of-scientific-experts/

 

[Willie99]

Media reporting, spin, changing opinions, lies and wildly fluctuating "science" speak for themselves

How many "bad models" excuses are we supposed to accept?

You can't spin all the bullshit, there's far too much evidence


Almost forgot. MOVING GOALPOSTS TOO

 

[DogDaze]

Dogshit, U must live in a democrat city where u are locked down like a slave

many cities are no mask, restaurants full, etc.

sucks for you

Not even close. Amazing how much you are wrong. I live in a total red neck rural area. 90% Trump supporters.
Masks are required pretty much everywhere though.

 

[HinesWard86]

Media reporting, spin, changing opinions, lies and wildly fluctuating "science" speak for themselves

How many "bad models" excuses are we supposed to accept?

You can't spin all the bullshit, there's far too much evidence


Almost forgot. MOVING GOALPOSTS TOO

What spin? What evidence? What goalposts are being moved?

 

[StevieRay]

Not even close. Amazing how much you are wrong. I live in a total red neck rural area. 90% Trump supporters.
Masks are required pretty much everywhere though.

Interesting

 

[StevieRay]

What spin? What evidence? What goalposts are being moved?

seriously ???

 

[bodyforlife]

I really don't want to say it because I am fully aware I'm jinxing everything.

But over the past 4-5 months, no one in my family (extended family included) has gotten sick. On an average year, we all get sick at least twice a year so this is very unusual.

It's a combination of masks, social distancing, washing hands, awareness of touching your face, etc.


I'm hoping when all this COVID shit blows over, the masks go away but we keep up with the washing of hands, sanitizers, face touching prevention, etc. and spend less weeks throughout the year fighting a cold/flu.

Shdw01,

Distancing has always been significantly more important than wearing a mask. And no, that shouldn't surprise you that overall, all infectious diseases should be down. They should be. From my viewpoint, that has never been the issue. We certainly could have prevented so many more flu deaths if similar protocols were in place. The issue has been (and always will be as far as I'm concerned) the balance between isolation and the negative impact on the economy and mental well being in general. One group will sit there and think they will guilt you with their "you're willing to let people die" mantra. In the meantime, I hardly think people losing their net worth is exactly saving people if they can't put food on their tables or be able to retire with some form of assets or savings. And everyone pays for that in the long run.

Unfortunately, the extremes on both sides are much more into hyperbole than having a rational conversation.

 

[Willie99]

What spin? What evidence? What goalposts are being moved?

Too much work, too little time to make my case. Which I have in many different threads over the past six months.

I suggest you go back to January, and start reading about what science told us then, how it went from not being transmitted between humans to MILLIONS of dead Americans overnight. Then about what science said about facemasks, then and now. Pay attention to how they scaled back their catastrophic death numbers because their "models were wrong"

Then read about what politicians and our media were saying about the virus in January, February and into March. And how they're rewriting history and pointing fingers now.

Then read about what our objectives were then and now, those are the moving goalposts. Hospitalizations and deaths are down, but now it's about new cases. The truth is they're not even new cases. Science tells us there are 30,000,000 to 60,000,000 inflicted Americans, that's 8% to 16%. So if we test 1,000,000 people, the overwhelming vast majority of them asymptomatic, we're EXPECTED to find 100,000 new cases. That's NOT a surge in new cases, that's a surge in discovered cases. There's no surge in new cases until positive test results exceed expectations. Which begs the question, what do liberals have against simple math?

Do I even need to mention the coverage about hydroxychloroquine? Democrats and their media attacked this drug simply because Trump mentioned it. There are plenty of doctors and results that prove it does help in many cases

If Obama were POTUS, my opinion would remain unchanged. But the democrats and their media would be selling a very different narrative about everything

And don't pretend there are no conflicting scientific and medical opinions. Democrats and their media just likes to silence the opposition

 

[X-Files]

I suggest you go back to January, and start reading about what science told us then, how it went from not being transmitted between humans to MILLIONS of dead Americans overnight. Then about what science said about facemasks, then and now.

"Yes, this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify their inability to learn from new information."

 

[HinesWard86]

That is why everyone should read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.

This is why we have the scientific method. We hypothesize, experiment, adjust. Hypothesize, experiment, adjust. The forefront of science is about constantly testing and tweaking based on the information available.

There were a lot of unknowns about the coronavirus, so scientists have had to constantly adjust. This is typical. We see it happen in science all the time. Its just that most people dont pay attention to science.