I don't get the Hysteria!

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It's highly contagious. Everyone would get it eventually without quarantining.

You should never use an absolute such as everyone or all, when presenting an opinion. Only if referring to death can someone say everyone.(natives don't pay taxes!) And that is incorrect. Hubei a province of 58 million has 67,000 infections after over two months of spreading without quarantining, and over three months without the Chinese ban of the consumption of wild animals!
 

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Moral question.....is it okay if you're feeling sick to go out and about and buy stuff and live your life?

And hell no you shouldn't go out if you're sick, especially if you have sick days at work! People just don't give a shit! At my wife's work (you could bank sick days) this bitch came back from a vacation, is sick and coughing, has over 100 sick days, and is still going to work!!!!
 

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Conclusions of Goldman Sachs Investee call where 1,500 companies dialed in. The key economic takeaways were:

50% of Americans will contract the virus (150m people) as it's very communicable. This is on a par with the common cold (Rhinovirus) of which there are about 200 strains and which the majority of Americans will get 2-4 per year.

70% of Germany will contract it (58M people). This is the next most relevant industrial economy to be effected.

Peak-virus is expected over the next eight weeks, declining thereafter.

The virus appears to be concentrated in a band between 30-50 degrees north latitude, meaning that like the common cold and flu, it prefers cold weather. The coming summer in the northern hemisphere should help. This is to say that the virus is likely seasonal.

Of those impacted 80% will be early-stage, 15% mid-stage and 5% critical-stage. Early-stage symptoms are like the common cold and mid-stage symptoms are like the flu; these are stay at home for two weeks and rest. 5% will be critical and highly weighted towards the elderly.

Mortality rate on average of up to 2%, heavily weight towards the elderly and immunocompromised; meaning up to 3m people (150m*.02). In the US about 3m/yr die mostly due to old age and disease, those two being highly correlated (as a percent very few from accidents). There will be significant overlap, so this does not mean 3m new deaths from the virus, it means elderly people dying sooner due to respiratory issues. This may however stress the healthcare system.

There is a debate as to how to address the virus pre-vaccine. The US is tending towards quarantine. The UK is tending towards allowing it to spread so that the population can develop a natural immunity. Quarantine is likely to be ineffective and result in significant economic damage but will slow the rate of transmission giving the healthcare system more time to deal with the case load.
 

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Not that I'm trying to handicap this like it is a football game but I am curious to see how UK fares with that. Seems like no other country is taking anywhere close to the herd immunity approach.
 

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Not that I'm trying to handicap this like it is a football game but I am curious to see how UK fares with that. Seems like no other country is taking anywhere close to the herd immunity approach.

This does interest me. What is the citizen reaction?
 

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They have changed their tune. The plan has changed.....shut down impending.
Not that I'm trying to handicap this like it is a football game but I am curious to see how UK fares with that. Seems like no other country is taking anywhere close to the herd immunity approach.
 

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Yeah, well telling your citizens that 2-3% of you will get this and die so we can still have tea parties does seem like a tough sell politically.
 

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Let's look at the numbers

First case was Nov 17 other sources Dec 1st
China began to quarantine in Wuhan on Jan 23
Banned live animal consumption on Feb 24

So as you can see the virus was able to multiple unabated, uncontrolled, somewhat undetected for between 2 to 3 months, yet it still only managed to infect slightly more than one tenth of one percent of the population of Hubei. (pop 58.5 million with 67,790 cases about 0.11%) Now granted China may withhold info given the nature of their "government" So let's now let's look at Italy, the country with the second most cases. It's population is virtually the name as Hubei and they currently have 28,000 cases, far below the number in Hubei. Like I stated before I don't see the Hysteria when only 0.11% of a population became infected by the virus with no precautions taken for roughly 2-3 months.
 

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If the numbers have the potential to be 100 million US cases, 1 million deaths.....is that not a big deal? This time period we are in is mainly NOT ABOUT US. It's about loving our neighbors well enough to do everything we can to help them avoid being killed. In addition, we don't know what the death rate is or who is at risk or not at risk. In Italy, the death rate is now 8% and it's not all old people.

100 million? Seriously?? Do yo not look at things and what the numbers are in other countries, especially China.
Compared to China 81,000 confirmed cases, 3,200 deaths. Italy 28,000 confirmed cases, 2,158 deaths, Iran 15,000 confirmed cases, 853 deaths

Where are 100 million coming from, those numbers make absolutely zero sense.
Do people even read, research anything or do they all just listen to the "experts" giving their opinion?

People wake up!!! If China where this started, they were in a very bad situation only has 81,000 cases as of today, 3,200 deaths, and new confirmed cases are very, very low today to where things are normalizing there...

Please explain how are 100 million confirmed cases going to happen here??? Based off of the numbers and evidence from these other countries.
700,000-1.3 million dead??? People come on and use your brain!!!

Those numbers make absolutely zero sense if you truly think and analyze things...

People really need to wake the fuck up and use their fucking head and do some critical thinking for themselves...
This country has a bunch of useless, fucking idiots who can't think in the most simplest terms at all
No wonder you lose gambling....
 

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China did what they wanted to do. Martial law no questions or you get shot.
That isn't happening in the Western world!
Hell is here, ride it out!
 

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Yeah, well telling your citizens that 2-3% of you will get this and die so we can still have tea parties does seem like a tough sell politically.

Hold on... that's 2-3% of those infected, not the population. Current rate of infection in Italy right now is 500/1m.

Moreover, if millions are walking around with this virus and don't even know it (why would anyone bother testing if they are practically symptom free?) that would make the death rate MUCH lower than 2-3%...probably right in line with other respiratory viruses, aka the flu.

In the US, 80,000 deaths is a bad flu season. Worth shutting down the economy?

Face it, the politicians causing all this havoc and upheaval all over the world are not too bright. Chief blame goes to Italy's hug-a-Chinaman PM, who frankly in my opinion is responsible for all this social media-induced hysteria and upheaval.

Is Tom Hanks dead yet? Asking for a friend.

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Hold on... that's 2-3% of those infected, not the population. Current rate of infection in Italy right now is 500/1m.

Moreover, if millions are walking around with this virus and don't even know it (why would anyone bother testing if they are practically symptom free?) that would make the death rate MUCH lower than 2-3%...probably right in line with other respiratory viruses, aka the flu.

In the US, 80,000 deaths is a bad flu season. Worth shutting down the economy?

Face it, the politicians causing all this havoc and upheaval all over the world are not too bright. Chief blame goes to Italy's hug-a-Chinaman PM, who frankly in my opinion is responsible for all this social media-induced hysteria and upheaval.

Is Tom Hanks dead yet? Asking for a friend.

face)(*^%


AbbracciaUnCinese was the work of the Mayor of Florence, Nardella. He thought it was "racist" to avoid people from mainland China, now most foreign flights are banned! Gotta love political correctness.
 

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