Yeah I don't see how you achieve democracy because the non-terrorists aren't willing enough to fight for their freedom. I got my money on the fanatics like ISIS, Al-qaeda, etc in any type of civil war. They're willing to die for the cause. They make up like 1% of the population and run the entire region, despite the fact these countries aren't even poor because of commodity surpluses.
It's just clear not enough blame/responsibility is put on these countries to get their shit together.
I think it's possible we could've turned Iraq into a stable democracy. Maybe like a 20% chance.
But everything would've had to go right. Probably spend a few trillion more, another 10 years of troops there and even then it probably wouldn't work. Once you leave, who knows what happens in the next election, who knows what Iran does, etc....It's just way too grand and complex of an undertaking.
There is a reason these places have people like Saddam or Assad in power.
But everything would've had to go right. Probably spend a few trillion more, another 10 years of troops there and even then it probably wouldn't work. Once you leave, who knows what happens in the next election, who knows what Iran does, etc....It's just way too grand and complex of an undertaking.
There is a reason these places have people like Saddam or Assad in power.
No doubt.
Nobody in the region is capable of governing or civility...all the caliphate dreamers know is bloodshed. I don't think the world will come up with a real lasting solution until it reaches moral clarity:
Islam is not a religion of peace, it's a political theory of conquest that seeks domination by any means.
How many more innocent people are going to die before people stop calling it a 'religion', let alone a 'peaceful' one???
I agree he should call ISIS Islamist Radicals. I understand why he's not though. There is enough irrational Muslim Hate in this Country, and he's trying not to ramp it up. Unfortunately it's having the opposite effect, and he should let this one go, call them what they are, and make it clear that they represent a sick, radical minority of their Religion. His heels are too dug in on this. But if he would call them Islamist radicals, it would be something else they'd irrationally attack him on. :think2:
I think something like Paris was a necessary evil for the long-term. The world needed a wakeup call. You'll see 1st world gov's get more nationalistic, more vetting of immigrants, etc. In some cases this will lead to over the top discrimination of good people, but the alternative just isn't acceptable.
There are a lot of good muslims out there, but by in large you can't integrate people into a society when their thought process is so radically different such as Muslims. It just isn't compatible with Western 1st world life.
If you can't even work in an office with a women who wears a skirt then that is your problem, not ours.
Well I'd say it is much harder to pull a 9/11 off now because of 9/11. So an adjustment was made, an inefficiency in the system was corrected. It might not have been perfect but we have made strides in making America safer since then.
When the London subway attacks happened, the narrative that came out of that was we need to defeat terrorism. Now it seems like people are waking up and taking a look at immigration policy in the Eurozone and realizing that integration is extremely misguided. Don't forget the Charlie Hedebo incident as well, maybe it isn't just 1 incident but to have a few so close together. Sometimes people need to be slapped upside the head more than once to get the message.
Maybe this is just my interpretation but I feel like there is more of a discussion about the systemic risks of integration this time around rather than just "we need to kill the terrorists" Just thinking getting rid of IS will solve these problems would be a giant mistake.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with civil liberties going forward. The prevailing notion out of this seems to be "Fuck it, listen to me all you want"
The enemy was such a unique and unorthodox opponent to the traditional foe in US history that I think it just took all of us some time to come around to increasing government intrusion. That ship has now sailed, for better or worse....
The enemy was such a unique and unorthodox opponent to the traditional foe in US history that I think it just took all of us some time to come around to increasing government intrusion. That ship has now sailed, for better or worse....
He did it to get elected. Saying, "we need to end the war in Iraq and fight the real WOT in Afghanistan" was a ploy to get himself elected. He didn't really believe in fighting either war, but the statement appealed to the far left pacifists and the undecided independents who knew less about foreign policy than he did at the time. But the ploy worked for Obama. Appealing words. And a big pile of dead bodies.
Here's what libtardism is all about
Obama withdrew the troops, he called Iraq his GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT, they called it a great accomplishment, Vitt and every single libtard here called it a great accomplishment
but when yet another Obama ACCOMPLISHMENT blows up in our fucking faces because of policies they espouse, they turn around and blame it on Bush
Obama loses at everything, except getting crack whores out to vote on election day
the epitome of a clusterfuck
Obama withdrew the troops, he called Iraq his GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT, they called it a great accomplishment, Vitt and every single libtard here called it a great accomplishment
but when yet another Obama ACCOMPLISHMENT blows up in our fucking faces because of policies they espouse, they turn around and blame it on Bush
Obama loses at everything, except getting crack whores out to vote on election day
the epitome of a clusterfuck
Putin: 'To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me'
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/11/17/putin-forgive-terrorists-god-send-them-him-me
Totally untrue. Never said it was a great accomplishment.
Here is what is true. You went on and on about how Bush ended the war in Iraq.....even touted the agreement that ended it.....several times......you only pinned it on Obama when Iraq became a mess after the Bush troop withdrawal was carried out.
You are a total liar and fraud when it comes to anything political or involves the New England Patriots. Your opinion is always based on who you are a fan of personally and never based in fact or reality.
