setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty. But there was an understanding, a senior official here said, that a sizable American force would stay in Iraq beyond that date.
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You seem to be claiming that the SOFA couldn't be re-negotiated. The agreement was supposed to be renegotiated eventually, to provide a long-term presence with U.S. troops in a different role
So in other words, Obama is such a shitty negotiator, or he didn't want any US troops in Iraq, and it all fell apart.
Saying "it was Bush's agreement!!!" is meaningless as it was well known by Obama when he took office that this would be an issue he would have to work to resolve. Obama made a choice, and bragged about his choice, which was disastrous.
Saying "it was Bush's agreement!!!" is meaningless as it was well known by Obama when he took office that this would be an issue he would have to work to resolve. Obama made a choice, and bragged about his choice, which was disastrous.
You can also read this New Yorker article that completely dispels the notion that the Iraqi government wanted America to leave.
Obama is an asshole and terrible at his job.
Obama is an asshole and terrible at his job.
Even if we kept troops there to this day, democracy isn't going to work in that country for a long time. Now people are saying "bomb them" like they want the entire ME turned into a parking lot, what happened to installing democracy?
I don't know why we can't just do what we did with Iran in the 50s, just install some asshole to run the country but an asshole that is OUR asshole. This is easily the best solution. Saddam-lite, if you will....
I don't know why we can't just do what we did with Iran in the 50s, just install some asshole to run the country but an asshole that is OUR asshole. This is easily the best solution. Saddam-lite, if you will....
The bottom line is the Iraqis suck pretty bad at fighting for freedom/democracy, so bad that you would probably come to the conclusion they don't want it, or atleast they don't want to have a bloody civil war to fight for it.
Give em Saddam-lite and call it a day. Saddam killed terrorists, he just had ambitions that were too grand.
Trying to push our way of life on these people was the height of hubris.
Give em Saddam-lite and call it a day. Saddam killed terrorists, he just had ambitions that were too grand.
Trying to push our way of life on these people was the height of hubris.
Egypt (secular regime and American ally) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Libya (secular regime - Gaddafi surrendered his WMD) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Syria (secular regime) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Iran (radical Muslim regime and sworn enemy of the US) - Obama dead silent during the Green revolution. ZERO assistance for young secular Iranians attempting to topple the Ayatollah.
Israel vs 'Palestinians' (Obama condemns Israel at every opportunity and supports radical Muslims)
Anyone notice a pattern?
Libya (secular regime - Gaddafi surrendered his WMD) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Syria (secular regime) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Iran (radical Muslim regime and sworn enemy of the US) - Obama dead silent during the Green revolution. ZERO assistance for young secular Iranians attempting to topple the Ayatollah.
Israel vs 'Palestinians' (Obama condemns Israel at every opportunity and supports radical Muslims)
Anyone notice a pattern?
Egypt (secular regime and American ally) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Libya (secular regime - Gaddafi surrendered his WMD) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Syria (secular regime) - Obama helps radical Muslims.
Iran (radical Muslim regime and sworn enemy of the US) - Obama dead silent during the Green revolution. ZERO assistance for young secular Iranians attempting to topple the Ayatollah.
Israel vs 'Palestinians' (Obama condemns Israel at every opportunity and supports radical Muslims)
Anyone notice a pattern?
Why you guys continue to lie about that " stand with Muslims" quote is beyond me. Every neutral fact checking outlet has deemed that completely false. You should read the entire paragraph. I assume you already did but decide to ignore and post this totally false narrative. Lucky for you the brain dead right wingers here will buy it. Just like " you didn't build that"
It's amazing to watch. I mean gasman completely invented something that didn't happen. Joe and Dave have continually put up false quotes, Willie blames an Iraq agreement made by bush on Obama, Zit hypocrisy thread filled with nonsense, Russ pollutes the site with spam in that horrific connect the dots thread.......it never fucking ends with these guys
Muslims don't take too kindly to those policies. That's how we ended up with al-qaeda and 9/11. They saw the West exactly as you described: big Satanic oppressive force propping up puppet governments all the middle east preventing their great caliphate from rising.
For all the talk how backward and primitive these people are, the middle east truly remains an enigma.
