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Not sure any one flustered or a left or right or anyone hating themselves. Lol. Think u read to much into things bro

it has to do with sports and more courageous out there than a man wanting a vagina getting an award. It's sports. Not the gay pride award show Jenner can be head band leader when that comes around , sure they are not going to let Tom Brady lead it. Lol
 

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Not sure any one flustered or a left or right or anyone hating themselves. Lol. Think u read to much into things bro

it has to do with sports and more courageous out there than a man wanting a vagina getting an award. It's sports. Not the gay pride award show Jenner can be head band leader when that comes around , sure they are not going to let Tom Brady lead it. Lol

A gold medal Olympian has something to do with sports. If he was Bruce Doe and married into the Kardashians....he would not be getting an espy.

Yes, we all can agree that military are more courageous but if you wanna use that as the bar......then it should always go to military and never an athlete.
 

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maybe give it to Derrik Rose for coming back from all those injuries. Hahahaha ur right , give it to the freak that now dresses better than his ex wife
 

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maybe give it to Derrik Rose for coming back from all those injuries. Hahahaha ur right , give it to the freak that now dresses better than his ex wife
Does it take courage to rehab under the best possible trainers and equipment so you can continue making millions? Lol
 

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Won't watch the espys. Has nothing to do with the transgender thing. It's a just a horrible awards show
 

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An accident he caused ended a womans life.......for that alone he should not be up there tonight.

Havent' watched the Espy's ever.
 
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This ESPY shit is getting out of hand. No real athlete considers this as a great award.... Hmmm ESPY or NFL MVP? What it really is is a fundraiser for 20 year dead below average coach guy.


You are the greatest Jim Valvano. LOL

I won't give up, I will never give up. Does your family get royalties on that phrase or ESPN?
 

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I have watched about 15 total minutes of this shit. So tonight its airing on ABC . Thats a first , right ? All because of Caitlyn...

No idea why any athlete wastes their time showing up to this joke.

i would love to see one of them go up and accept their award and bash the shit out of this show.
 

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laughed at the tweet if it wasn't for Ray J that Jenner wouldn't be up there @):mad::):):hahahahah
 

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I flipped over to it long enough to see that young girl Mo'ne Davis win breakthrough athlete over Jordan Speith. That was enough for me.
 

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Lol.....funny to watch people get all flustered by this. Somebody is different than me!!!! I must attack!!!

Thats a massive simplification and you know it and you're smart enough to know also that this "Somebody is different than me!!!! I must attack!!!" simplification is totally invalid. I'm stunned you present that within this debate.

It may be "natural" that some males identify as female, transgendered whatever the case or it may NOT be "natural", this could be the result of chemical imbalance, ingestion of some substance that effected the brain adversely, may be "genetic" may be a yet to be discovered abnormality within the DNA...theres possibly a plethora of explanations for how this comes to be.

Some are going to be uncomfortable with this, thats just the truth of the matter. Many due to Religion of course others just because it is "intuitively" not natural to them....within their "soul" or better the very core of their being as that relates to their understanding of what it "is" to be human...it just strikes them as un-natural and disturbing.

To suggest "Somebody is different than me!!!! I must attack!!!" is even anything close to a large % of why people react as they do to this when they react with discomfort is disappointing cuz that declaration only invites distraction from honest discussion of why actually people are troubled by this.

Until Medical Science can more deeply study possible "roots" of this phenomenon we're pretty much Lost In Space on this matter. We simply do not have enough information to base an intelligent conclusion on.

Same as if Bright Green colored people suddenly appeared out of nowhere, there would be hostility from some (naturally) borne of fear based on a simple lack of understanding of why they are Bright Green.

A lot of people agree totally with your point(s) about being supportive rather than condemning. Many of us just feel like this is a Mutation within genes DNA whatever...I ain't no MicroBiologist just saying you can't possibly be surprised that a good % of people would be uncomfortable with this. Just the Media alone beating this story like a dead horse, plastering mention of Caitlyn everywhere has led otherwise potentially liberal people to say GodDANG enough already.

90% of this media barrage has totally NO thing to do with making the lives of others blessed or afflicted ("jury still being out" on the roots of this phenom) with Transgender matters and for the most part "we" are completely not "attacking someone cuz they are different than us. Again...very very disappointing simplification. Not friggin applicable.

We simply don't understand and instinctually, from within the very core of our instincts as the animals we are...it seems un-natural to us.

We are not "wrong" for feeling that way.

If our Primary Goals while here in this Physical Dimension does NOT include "lessening suffering wherever possible" and the extension of that "do no harm" then we are doing this wrong.

Some are doing it wrong.

Of course they are. Far fewer than your "Somebody is different than me!!!! I must attack!!!" suggestion of an explanation for people's reaction to this suggests.

We just don't understand it. And it doesn't feel "Natural". Simple as that.
 
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I flipped over to it long enough to see that young girl Mo'ne Davis win breakthrough athlete over Jordan Speith. That was enough for me.

I didn't watch but that is funny. A girl Little Leaguer. LOL

Everyone on that team should have pants her.

I want to play Little League again. When they refuse, I can file an age discrimination lawsuit.
 

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There was a Caitlyn Jenner blackout on ESPY day ... and the reason is all about hate.

We noticed late Wednesday morning if you hashtagged Caitlyn Jenner "most recent" would not come up. That means there was no way to see photos or texts using the hashtag.

The only photos you could see were from a few top posts ... all very nice and positive.
Here's what we found out. Instagram itself blocked its users ability to view "most recent" photos and texts, because there had been a flurry of really awful comments and uploads, including:

-- 'Until you grow a vagina and bleed, you will never be a woman'
-- 'F***ing Fa***t'
-- 'How is this THING rewarded anything'

There were so many negative comments and complaints about those comments, Instagram took swift action.
After Caitlyn took the stage, Instagram re-activated the hashtag and there was a flood of positive comments.
Nevertheless ... Caitlyn clearly has her work cut out for her.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/16/caitl...tag-photos-comments-hate-espys/#ixzz3g5pCerUi
 

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There was a Caitlyn Jenner blackout on ESPY day ... and the reason is all about hate.

We noticed late Wednesday morning if you hashtagged Caitlyn Jenner "most recent" would not come up. That means there was no way to see photos or texts using the hashtag.

The only photos you could see were from a few top posts ... all very nice and positive.
Here's what we found out. Instagram itself blocked its users ability to view "most recent" photos and texts, because there had been a flurry of really awful comments and uploads, including:

-- 'Until you grow a vagina and bleed, you will never be a woman'
-- 'F***ing Fa***t'
-- 'How is this THING rewarded anything'

There were so many negative comments and complaints about those comments, Instagram took swift action.
After Caitlyn took the stage, Instagram re-activated the hashtag and there was a flood of positive comments.
Nevertheless ... Caitlyn clearly has her work cut out for her.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/16/caitl...tag-photos-comments-hate-espys/#ixzz3g5pCerUi

Like Gilda said "Its Always Something.". We must realize by now "we" (Meaning Americans...mostly so you're kinda exempted scott lol) are gonna be at each others throats bickering like a gaggle of old geese about something.

Technology: The Ultimate Two Sided Sword.

All I'm sayin' is if Medical Science establishes a perfectly "natural" Chromosonal reason Men are actually Women, identifies some physiological circumstance that physically (and mentally) makes a Man a Woman and thats why it occurs...much like they've managed to accomplish explaining why some people are FreckelFaced until then theres gonna be hostility borne of fear and lack of understanding + perfectly natural Human Response Fight or Flight Mechanism that kicks in when a Human is confronted by stuff that is so completely different than what they're accustomed to and what they understand.

Nearly all the energy surrounding this is being invested in "Opinions". Is it so much to ask for just wee bit of intelligent dialogue centered on Education? Understanding of what causes...what lies at the ROOT of a Man actually being a Woman?

Is it not possible that much of this vitriol towards Transgendered people would vanish if we just understood why this happens?

I know me personally if a qualified Scientific DOCTOR would just point to a few squiggly things on a BodyScan and say "these are chromosones some people who are "physically Male" get a heap, a preponderance, of Female ones so they are actually Female. This happens cuz it just happens on occasion during the process of a baby growing in a Womb and it is perfectly natural."

Then that would clear it up. I'd then be accepting cuz I understood (the best I could anyways) as would others cuz it was explained, education was accomplished to replace "Just Fuckin' accept it small minded Bigot" when the vast majority of us aren't that at all.

If instead its the result of Pharmaceuticals taken or other foreign substance introduced into the body that then alters the Brain's Chemistry thats less "natural" and the "progress" people talk about us making could very well be just us making a tighter circle as a Species cuz we're closer to goin' down The Drain.
 

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I tuned in long enough to get a look at Kendall Jenner.. That is a hot piece of ass...
 

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