How do you guys feel about Affirmative Action?

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It hurts minorities more than it helps them. You are hiring a "type" instead of the most qualified.
 

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I will share my thoughts later.
 

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It served its purpose to break minorities into the workplace, now it should be abandoned.
 

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If I'm a business owner, I'm taking the right person for the job. The person can be pink with yellow polkadots and carry a fish bowl everywhere he/she goes. If he can take my business to the next level, why the fuck should color matter?
 

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It doesn't fit with the other claims made by the socialists. They claim the big evil capitalists are trying to keep the woman, black man, etc down by not hiring them. But aren't they supposed to be money-grubbing? Why would they hire the white guy if the black chick would be better for the job? Some greedy capitalist would have tapped into this reserve of women and black people by now if there was so much opportunity.

If you want to argue in favor of affirmative action, the only argument that you can try and use is the one about making up for past evils.
 

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I'm white but live in a city where the majority are hispanics - do I qualify for affirmative action because I am a minority?

Another question - how come blacks and hispanics benefit from affirmative action but not asians?

I like to refer to affirmative action as "reverse discrimination".
 

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It doesn't fit with the other claims made by the socialists. They claim the big evil capitalists are trying to keep the woman, black man, etc down by not hiring them. But aren't they supposed to be money-grubbing? Why would they hire the white guy if the black chick would be better for the job? Some greedy capitalist would have tapped into this reserve of women and black people by now if there was so much opportunity.

If you want to argue in favor of affirmative action, the only argument that you can try and use is the one about making up for past evils.

That's unrealistic. People are still racists and don't care if people are qualified or not. It's not as bad as 20 years ago, but it's still out there. There are white people who think that no matter what is written on a resume, that black people are inferior or they're going to have some kind of problems by hiring them.

Did you ever see the 20/20 where they had people calling up asking for jobs? They first used black sounding names like "Keyshaun" and asked if a job was still available and they were told "no, sorry". When they called back as "Jason Ross"......"Sure the position is still open, come on down".

Look at this forum as an example. How many people, in here, still feel that blacks can't win as quarterbacks?
 

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Another question - how come blacks and hispanics benefit from affirmative action but not asians?



I always wondered about that. I always here white people complaining that I didn't get into this ivy league or that school because of AA. However, do you know how many asians put out to pasture because white people taking spots that asians would occupy at harvard and yale, etc.


Fat Tony, you are right on point. Even though racism is not as openly tolerated, people still judge people based on their skin color many times.

Why is it that people who are idiots always say, I didn't get this job because of AA. Has anyone been in a corporate board room lately, there are more crackers than at a TownHouse Factory. Most jobs in corporate America are still dominated by whites. I work in pharmaceuitcal sales, everyone except person I work with is white.
 

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That's unrealistic. People are still racists and don't care if people are qualified or not. It's not as bad as 20 years ago, but it's still out there. There are white people who think that no matter what is written on a resume, that black people are inferior or they're going to have some kind of problems by hiring them.
Of course that is true, but shouldn't it be there choice who they employ? Isn't that kind of big brother forcing us to employ people we don't want? Anyways, if there is a huge surplus of blacks being discriminated against, shouldn't there be some evil greedy capitalist willing to employ them?

Did you ever see the 20/20 where they had people calling up asking for jobs? They first used black sounding names like "Keyshaun" and asked if a job was still available and they were told "no, sorry". When they called back as "Jason Ross"......"Sure the position is still open, come on down".
20/20 wants to provide something interesting or entertaining. I bet they called a hundred places before they got a reaction like that. It does happen though, but shouldn't it be there choice to hire whoever they want? I'd probably run from a name like Keyshaun myself. Suburban blacks don't call their kids laquitta and shaniqua, that's a poor urban thing that single mothers do.

Look at this forum as an example. How many people, in here, still feel that blacks can't win as quarterbacks?
In general, they have underperformed, just like whites underperform at RB.
 

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I'm pretty much 50/50 on this. On one hand, I don't like the idea of choosing someone just because you have to meet a quota, and the possibility he might not be good at his job like Alberto Gonzalez. And then on the flip side, if it was not in place minorities would probably be on the short end of the stick regarding hirings. Tough issue like many others out there.
 

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I'd probably run from a name like Keyshaun myself. Suburban blacks don't call their kids laquitta and shaniqua, that's a poor urban thing that single mothers do.


THAT IS THE REASON WE HAVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BECAUSE EINSTEIN'S LIKE YOURSELF!
 

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I'd probably run from a name like Keyshaun myself. Suburban blacks don't call their kids laquitta and shaniqua, that's a poor urban thing that single mothers do.


THAT IS THE REASON WE HAVE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BECAUSE EINSTEIN'S LIKE YOURSELF!
If they had the credentials, then that would be fine. In general though, a name like shaquita is usually a bad sign. I guess it's only ok when Bill Cosby calls out black women for calling their kids laquita and ja'marcus.
 

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what levistep said earlier about black names is the stupidest thing i've ever read. he is basically saying give your kids white names and to deny part of your ancestry.
 

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Just like i'd run from someone named Jim Bob.

So, you wouldn't hire him because his name is Jim Bob? WOW


So, your entire basis for hiring someone is predicated upon their name? Please let me understand this.


What college are you at in the Bust a Nutmeg state?
 

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So, you wouldn't hire him because his name is Jim Bob? WOW


So, your entire basis for hiring someone is predicated upon their name? Please let me understand this.


What college are you at in the Bust a Nutmeg state?
I edited my last post. I wouldn't run from or hire someone based on their name, that would be ridiculous. I made a bit of an exaggeration.

what levistep said earlier about black names is the stupidest thing i've ever read. he is basically saying give your kids white names and to deny part of your ancestry.
Ohh man, this is funny. Laquita, shaquida and jemarcus are part of black history? That is fucking hilarious. Those aren't black or African American names. I highly doubt there are any jemarcuses in Nigeria. How about you tell me the ancestoral history of these stupid names?
 

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Of course that is true, but shouldn't it be there choice who they employ?

In a perfect world, yes they should, but it's not. This generation is paying for what past generations did. It SUCKS, but you're never going to have a balance economically among blacks and whites in this country if you don't do things like AA. It's a trickle down effect. Hopefully it will get to a point where you don't have to do it.

Chris Rock has a funny joke on this.."If you're white and think that everything is equal in this country? There's a white janitor in this room that has one arm. If you ask him to switch places with me right now, a MILLIONAIRE, he'd say...... Hell no!!! He's black."





In general, they have underperformed, just like whites underperform at RB.

But is it because they were black or guys who just couldn't cut it as a quarterback. I could name a million white QB's who will never win a ring.
 

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