I personally benefitted from my time actively using 12step groups (almost seven years) because it provided a mostly healthy intervention on my previously self destructive thinking habits.
But it's clearly fraught with incredible flawed logic. At most every meeting I ever attended for both NA and AA the house theme was "Clean and Sober from addictive drugs" and yet at least 2/3 of the attendees mowed down a half pack of Marlboros in the 60-90 minute session
But it's clearly fraught with incredible flawed logic. At most every meeting I ever attended for both NA and AA the house theme was "Clean and Sober from addictive drugs" and yet at least 2/3 of the attendees mowed down a half pack of Marlboros in the 60-90 minute session
Maybe so but 12 steps still doesn't cure alcoholism; and 5% isn't exactly success. There have been advancements in fighting just about every other disease, just read they can now abstract HIV out of the cell.
I drink 5 or 6 days per week...usually one double whiskey on rocks..red wine with meals 1 glass when having steak or pasta...don't consider it a problem. Moderation
I gamble 350+ days per year and have streaks of winning and losing. I never lose enough to effect lifestyle but I have had big winners that led to splurging/vacations. I classify if entertainment so even if I lost a nickle over a year that would be fine with me...but of course I would rather win 20K...I'm only a 50-200 straight player...grinder
Be your own boss, some folks are addicts(with anything) and some can be moderate.
Edit: My son is alcoholic and he gets a shot in ass every 30 days (Vivitrol) and that makes alcohol and opiates ineffective so there is no desire to drink. It's been working for him going on 6 months.
I gamble 350+ days per year and have streaks of winning and losing. I never lose enough to effect lifestyle but I have had big winners that led to splurging/vacations. I classify if entertainment so even if I lost a nickle over a year that would be fine with me...but of course I would rather win 20K...I'm only a 50-200 straight player...grinder
Be your own boss, some folks are addicts(with anything) and some can be moderate.
Edit: My son is alcoholic and he gets a shot in ass every 30 days (Vivitrol) and that makes alcohol and opiates ineffective so there is no desire to drink. It's been working for him going on 6 months.
Quit drinking in 2003, it was the easiest thing to do for me. I just got disgusted by the headaches & hangovers......alcohol is poison towards the mind & body.
Alcohol kills 88,000 people a year......cigarettes kill 480,000 a year
Alcohol kills 88,000 people a year......cigarettes kill 480,000 a year
its hard to have moderation when you have an inclination to be an addict... fun fact... all drugs affect us different... ive tried every drug in the book... quit heroin back in 2008, was super hard but nothing compared to coke, and most people have it harder with smack. Ive tried pills, mdma, acid, and a bunch of other less fun stuff and i dont consider myself addicted to neither cigs or alcohol--- I CAN LITERALLY GO A MONTH without booze or cigs but if I binge on coke I can drink a bottle of vodka in 2 hours and smoke 2 packs a night. Tells you how weird this "sickness" is... i prefer to think is a combo of sickness and lack of self awareness (or a fucked up life + fucked up mind = shitty decision making)
I would think Meth would be the hardest. I don't get addicted to anything, it's weird, I build up a tolerance for things pretty quick, and once the high is no longer up to my expectations, I have no desire to do it anymore.
I spent 10+ days in the hospital and thought I was going to die ( not sure if I was close to dying or not, but I believed it in my mind ) and promised God that I would stop drinking if he let me make it through. That was in 2013 and have not drank since. I think I will do it again, but never in the way I did before. I was drinking 2 handles a day of Vodka a day, every day. I do not believe in the whole addiction is a disease. I drank because I loved it, not because I needed it.
- Nearly 88,0009 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women10) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making it the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States.9
Like many other diseases, alcoholism is chronic, meaning that it lasts a person's lifetime; it usually follows a predictable course; and it has symptoms. The risk for developing alcoholism is influenced both by a person's genes and by his or her lifestyle."[SUP][41]
The modern disease theory of alcoholismstates that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.
The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956. In 1991, The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections.
alcoholism is one of the leading killers in the united states and abroad.the question here was,how did you quit drinking,well it all starts with a treatment program,which there are may different ones to choose from.not all treatment programs have to be in a facility.i chose what they call,intensive out patient program because this way i have to deal with everyday life while doing whatever it takes to not have a drink.this is a six week program which is 3 days a week and 4 hours a day.from completion the only way to stay away from a drink is to go to AA MEETINGS on a regular basis.if you do not have a sponsor,a support group,and go to meetings you will drink again,no doubt.this is a lifetime commitment and if you don't take it serious then you will die,that's the bottom line.i used to think in my younger days that it was some sort of a cult ,lol,...but in fact it saved my life and probably somebody else's to.i don't miss drinking one bit,i did it well,very well and the results and what i can remember about it and all the people i hurt i will regret the rest of my life,cause some important people are passed away now and i cannot make proper amends to them.
that is all i have,drink if you want,but look out for the consequences
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Meth has got to be the worst to kick because of what it does to the brain. I know quite a few people that have been hooked for 20 plus years and the lengths they go to stay on it are horrible. Meth goes hand in hand with theft and we call it the lie, cheat, and steal drug.
As far as booze goes I am a binge drinker and i realize that i just cant control it once i start. My body is left feeling like i was run over by a truck also and that helps deter me. Anybody that wants to stop any addiction has a tough road and i really wish the best of luck to them.
